Grendel
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Look whose crawled out of the Council Crypt for Christmas.
Stand up if you've never watched Wasps (3 Viewers)
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Look whose crawled out of the Council Crypt for Christmas.
Londonccfcfan
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Can’t stand wasps. Never have been ever. Even if I was paid I wouldn’t.
Legia Sky Blue
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You really are a sanctimonious moron. You are also a hypocrite who gladly followed our football club to another town, but is outraged when others do the same elsewhere. Shame you weren't so vocal when your beloved SISU sent 'our' club over the cliff to the all time low we find ourselves in now. Anyway congratulations, you've got me to bite, so you can congratulate yourself on a job well done.
skybluedan
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Thanks mate
Grendel
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Ok Nicky try again and do better next time.
fernandopartridge
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In fairness you've more than shown your colours in the past. Your opinion is meaningless as you're a Johnny come lately City fan more likely to sympathise with Johnny come lately types full stop.
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Calista
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It’s always painted as black and white, when surely there are shades of grey. Wasps weren’t ripped from a local community (like Wimbledon to MK), they were ripped from a region, which diluted the impact. They’d been out of London for a very long time, on an industrial estate in a town way outside the M25, which is the only way to explain why moving to the Ricoh only sparked some angst on social media. With no proper protest, there was nothing to coalesce around – CCFC fans marching on Twickenham in support of angry Wasps supporters might have made a difference, who knows? I’d have been there myself if Wasps fans had felt strongly enough about it to do that, but it didn’t happen and wasn’t likely to.
I’ve said similar to the above a few times before and got slammed for it, so I threw in the towel, but it’s still my view. Depressingly here we are years later with Sky Blues Talk in still in full swing (even on Christmas Day) name-calling and agonising over the morality of it, while lots of people enjoy watching the new West Midlands regional rugby franchise, and the world of rugby seems to have taken it on board with little problem. I don’t see Wasps as particularly evil, if anything I’m glad they’re putting the stadium to use for top sport in Coventry – but when there are TWO top clubs playing there I’ll be a lot happier. Some kind of more equal partnership has got to happen in the long run, I just don’t know how given the mountainous debts on both sides. It will probably take a decade and few more insolvencies and legal battles I fear.
I have never been to a rugby match btw, and it’s highly unlikely that I ever will. Six Nations or World Cup on the telly is about it for me.
I’ve said similar to the above a few times before and got slammed for it, so I threw in the towel, but it’s still my view. Depressingly here we are years later with Sky Blues Talk in still in full swing (even on Christmas Day) name-calling and agonising over the morality of it, while lots of people enjoy watching the new West Midlands regional rugby franchise, and the world of rugby seems to have taken it on board with little problem. I don’t see Wasps as particularly evil, if anything I’m glad they’re putting the stadium to use for top sport in Coventry – but when there are TWO top clubs playing there I’ll be a lot happier. Some kind of more equal partnership has got to happen in the long run, I just don’t know how given the mountainous debts on both sides. It will probably take a decade and few more insolvencies and legal battles I fear.
I have never been to a rugby match btw, and it’s highly unlikely that I ever will. Six Nations or World Cup on the telly is about it for me.
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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Well let me tell you if you don't learn in this world you die all three of them are City fans .If they don't make your visit an enjoyment you stop coming take a look round the crowd has more than halved and still dropping lift your head out of the sand and take a look around and learn from anyone including Wasps if need be
oucho
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Is that meant to mean I'm a glory hunter? Don't know how to start LOLing at that one.
I've been watching CCFC for 10 years....how long deforestation my opinion counts for something?
letsallsingtogether
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What do you mean do better?
He is spot on what part of that post was was wrong.
oucho
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But they did so as their designated home ground not as a neutral venue.
More examples, OK. London Irish moved from Sunbury to share the Madesjki in Reading. Sale left their old ground at first spent a decade playing in Stockport before moving to Salford. Sarascens left their old ground and shared out at Watford for years before then moving to Barnet. In Rugby League, London Broncos have had about 6 different home grounds around the city over the years. Didn't hear any football fans moaning about that in the way they did about MK Dons.
oucho
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Back in your box, see above.
The fact is they own the Ricoh fair and square and have every moral right to do so. Serves us right for trying to screw the council once they'd delivered their end of the Ricoh bargain.
Grendel
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Saracens moved back so they are comparable to Brighton FC although of course Watford is as close to London as they could get as they are a London club.
London Irish then is the only example so they can be classed as Wimbledon to MK Dons
Wasps played Northampton saints as a neutral venue in a semi final
So thanks for proving it’s no more nomadic than football.
Grendel
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At least FP has now explained your curious dispassionate view to the football club
chiefdave
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Sixfields was our designated home ground so using your logic nobody should have any complaints if we move there permanently.
Irish are still based in Sunbury but play their home games 40 mins away in Sunbury. However they will be moving back as soon as their new ground is completed. Coincidentally its the same ground Wasps turned down.
"The club announced on 15 August 2016 of their intention to return to London and that they were in formal discussion with Houslow Borough Council to play at Brentford FC's new stadium. On 10 February 2017 the club confirmed that Brentford had approved their application to use the stadium for rugby effectively allowing them to move into the new stadium from its opening season."
They moved 8 miles, in the process destroying the football club playing there. They then moved to a new stadium closer to Sale,
All Saracens grounds have been inside the M25. As they claim to represent London rather than a specific borough of London how is that an issue?
Exactly the same as Saracens, they represent London and have always played in London.
What your post does show is that all those clubs had no problem finding multiple grounds to play at in London yet we're supposed to believe it was impossible for Wasps and they had to move here.
oucho
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Eh? Of course I'm dispassionate. Supporring a football team doesn't mean I should support their owners tearing up a valid lease. Loyalty to a football team doesn't and shouldn't blind us wrongs when we see them such as deliberately trying to bankrupt ACL.
But then you think Watford is in London, shows what your views are worth!
oucho
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Wasps had other options but theybwere entitled to move here and did so. We went to Sixfields solely to bankrupt ACL, which is why I opposed the move alobg with other fans. If we genuinely had no other choice most fans including me would have supported to move to Northampton. But we CHOSE to leave the Ricoh in 2013, we were not kicked out, Fisher flounced out to try and starve ACL and get the Ricoh for next to nothing. See JR1 for more info.
Grendel
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Watford is a London borough and on the underground system. To compare to moving 85 miles as an attempt to justify the disgraceful actions of wasps exposed you for what you are.
Grendel
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Wasps weren’t kicked out - they chose to move.
chiefdave
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How can you say Wasps had other options but its fine for them to move here but then say we were wrong to go to Northampton because we had other options?
oucho
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Because we weren't genuinely trying to relocate and relaunch our club, we were only there to screw over our previous landlord. We went through the whole fiasco purely due toba failed land grab. It wasn't the move itself that was immoral, it was the motivation behind it and all the shameless lies and bullshit Sisu used to try to dress it up.
torchomatic
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Quite. And a good excuse to again post this excellent piece from the Independent. I love the usual suspects putting so much effort into NOT defending Wasps. Hilarious.
Hugh Godwin: Wasps didn't have to send themselves to Coventry
Otis
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Can't see how it's his fault. Have sat next to him for a few home games and he seems a lovely chap.
chiefdave
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Our move to Northampton was purely an attempt by our owners to benefit themselves financially.
Wasps move to Coventry was purely for their owner to benefit himself financially. Paid himself from the bond issue and eventually admitted in the CT that it was a move based on property development with the rugby club nothing more than an afterthought. Believe he referred to Wasps as a property development business with a rugby club attached.
They are one and the same.
With your logic if there's a ground anywhere in the country that offers our owners a better financial future you would not object to us being moved.
Grendel
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Like eastwoods lies when he assured fans they’d remain in the London area or had to move as they’d go bust and the claim they loved as it’s easier for the fans to get to Coventry?
NortonSkyBlue
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I wish we could move on from the historical perspective and focus on the future.
oucho
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The two are not comparable at all. Our owners were trying to screw over their former benefactors. Wasps weren't.
oucho
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How is that relevant? Wasps didn't do anything wrong. Sisu tore up our Ricoh lease which was despicable and unforgivable. Although we have disagreed on this i acknowledge you are an intelligent person but I do not understand why you seem to support Sisu's acts on the basis that the intention was to better CCFC's interests. Surely you can't support something morally wrong even if it does benefit us.
chiefdave
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chiefdave
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Well we don't have a lease to tear up now so if SISU decide it is in their, not the clubs, best financial interests to move CCFC 85 miles away can we assume you will be posting on here defending them and telling us they have done nothing wrong?
Any city support that attends a Wasp match is not letting only themselves down but 99.9% of the Coventry public.
I’ve allways had the opinion the ones that attend are like that chap called Pete who phones up CWR. Attention seekers.
Nick
Administrator
Do you really think tearing up a lease is worse than permanently moving a club 80 odd miles?
I think if we moved 80 miles for good, nobody would have a second thought about any lease.
Pretty weird thread, you have started a thread like this and are trying to defend everything they have done as much as possible. You seem to have more passion for leases and court cases than any football match or anything like that.
Gosford Green
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Why would I support or watch Wasps? Franchised sport, not for me.
The first rugby score I look for is Cov Rugby followed by Wasps because I cheer on whoever they are playing hoping they loose.
BPA is a good day out, more good pubs in the area than you can shake a stick at and a successful team with an ambitious and committed owner.
The first rugby score I look for is Cov Rugby followed by Wasps because I cheer on whoever they are playing hoping they loose.
BPA is a good day out, more good pubs in the area than you can shake a stick at and a successful team with an ambitious and committed owner.
Otis
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Same here.
After City's result the first I look for is Cov's and then I look in the hope that Wasps have lost if they are playing.