SeaSeeEffCee
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There is absolutely nothing from the source they’ve quoted, West London Sport, to suggest that we’ve moved ahead of QPR for him.
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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JimmyHillsbeard
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Even with us he had *moments* that looked very classy. Ignoring how quick some of our fans were to write him off it the real problem was that he needed at least one season of development - playing regularly, starting, coming on as sub, but being involved in the team. Had he been from our youth at up it would have been a no-brainer investment. However we were forced to try and develop a loan player and the reward (for us) of any improvement in him simply wasn’t worth the risk of exposing him week-in week out to the championship.
Pretty sure if it was a straight choice between us and QPR, any sane footballer who cared about their career would choose us. But then you've got to take wages into account, and maybe even location? And that's if we are even trying to sign him.
SkyBlueGuy
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The problem with gambles is they sometimes (often) don't pay off...
What we spend now we don't have next season or in Jan. I know you are an enthusiastic fan, just like myself. And if I'm being honest I'd like to add three more players to the squad. However, that is ignoring reality. The fact is, the buy low, sell high model which Doug appears to be using is far more sustainable than the "go for it" attitude of the 90s. How long did it take to recover from that? I think this season is our best chance of promotion for ages, so I completely get the desire to bring in the final pieces. But.... What if?
Not worth the gamble IMO. So we sell MVE, Simms, Sheaf and Wright . We bring in significant funds and go again. Being a solid championship side is great. Exciting league, chance of promotion, finer margins than the prem. It's really not that bad.
Remember where we were not so long ago... This is a dream by comparison
skybluecam
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Surely a quality loan or two is the obvious answer. We're a good side. We play good football. We've got decent facilities. Great environment for a young player at a prem club to come and stake a claim.
SkyBlueGuy
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Agree this seems like a good option on the face of it. Even with Doug's reporterd aversion to the loan market (which I understand to a point), we have still used it in his tenure.
I think there's a fine balance between cheaper permanent player (fee plus wages for the length of the contract) and more quality loan signing for a season (higher wages and no recoup in value).
If we can find the right one I'm all for it. Otherwise, if it's just for bodies, I'd keep a few academy players around. As I said, it's a tight call
long way home
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If we have interest in a player and he picks someone else im happy, as i don't want anyone at the club not buying completely into what we are about. If Worrall and Madsen are genuine targets and don't come im sure Doug has others in mind. If they were targets then it could be we are after 1 perm and 1 loan which could still happen. What im sure will happen is players leaving either on loan or on a permanent basis.
Obikwu, Andrews, Dausch will be available for loans. And i would imagine Burroughs, Howley and Collins will be made available for loans or permanent moves away. Still time, still things to do , but i don't think Doug is sitting with his feet on his desk...
Obikwu, Andrews, Dausch will be available for loans. And i would imagine Burroughs, Howley and Collins will be made available for loans or permanent moves away. Still time, still things to do , but i don't think Doug is sitting with his feet on his desk...
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biggymania
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This ^ we had similar discussions last season and this is where I have landed.
I would love 2-3 more players in - but I wouldn't bet the farm on it - I wouldn't bet the farm on anything when you consider how close we came to the brink due to reckless spending.
It will be hard losing some of these players next summer if we're not promoted - but we know the funds received will be excellent and we also can have confidence that we will spend that money wisely - if it comes to it.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s about having the funds and we clearly don’t. Though had we not splurged on a goalkeeper, we might well have done.
junglej13
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Agree. Wasn't sure about him based on the admittedly brief bits I saw of him on YouTube.
Winny the Bish
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Yeah I think it's time to start believing the smoke about us being at the top end of our budget.
long way home
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This is why the club don't say anything about players, admit or deny we don't officially comment. Its hard enough to get anything out the club when a player signs, never mind if its a rumored target.
Let the club do what its done over last few years because they have got a lot right with recruiting. I can see 2 in, 3 out, but not climbing the walls if that doesn't happen.
Let the club do what its done over last few years because they have got a lot right with recruiting. I can see 2 in, 3 out, but not climbing the walls if that doesn't happen.
Matt smith
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We need more of a 6 anyway imo
Matt smith
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I think we’ll get a loan or two at the very least
We don't even know if we were seriously in for NM. As others have said, from limited clips seen and reading about his style he doesnt look like what we needed - we need that 6 CDM.
I hope things are going on and we have just stopped all leaks - perhaps burnt after stamenic.
I hope things are going on and we have just stopped all leaks - perhaps burnt after stamenic.
My favourite thing he’s done is just name 5 random Japanese players and claim they’re on our shortlistMy fake rumour was denied by George Smith
Cally Fedora
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Madsen - hope he does go to QPR. We need a holding midfielder. Worrall - never been that keen. We’ll get someone in, quite relieved it’s neither of these
Sky Blue Goblin
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You definitely got more than a few thoughMy fake rumour was denied by George Smith
He just said it was bullshit …. Which it was …. Hardly caught him out … he saw straight through itMy fake rumour was denied by George Smith
Mucca Mad Boys
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100% - ask Swansea fans what Gyokeres was like for them and they’d have told you that you’re barmy if you believed he’d be a top Championship striker, let alone a top European one.
The Championship is a tough league.
shmmeee
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He obviously gets his rumours off this thread so posting “hey look at this fake rumour I made to fool George” probably wasn’t the most sophisticated wheeze.
larry_david
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Haha yeah was thinking that. Should have posted it, when he fell for the bait, then revealed. This Smith lad is a proper ITK though, he saw through Saddles attempt a few months ago
BlueSkiesForever
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I seem to agree with every post you make Saddle, I’m standing firmly in the Bedwetters United camp
Some people were saying we shouldn’t “bet the farm” on this season but I really don’t think spending £3-5 mil on a bit of quality in midfield is betting the farm tbh. We’ve got highly valuable assets in the 4 players you mentioned, sell any one of them next season and we easily pay back any investment on a midfielder from this season. One of the best shots we’ve ever had of reaching the prem, I don’t think we should potentially squander it because of slight overspending.
Balli001
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Not sure the auditors agree with that approachI seem to agree with every post you make Saddle, I’m standing firmly in the Bedwetters United camp
Some people were saying we shouldn’t “bet the farm” on this season but I really don’t think spending £3-5 mil on a bit of quality in midfield is betting the farm tbh. We’ve got highly valuable assets in the 4 players you mentioned, sell any one of them next season and we easily pay back any investment on a midfielder from this season. One of the best shots we’ve ever had of reaching the prem, I don’t think we should potentially squander it because of slight overspending.