Summer transfer window 2024 (21 Viewers)

SwanLane

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McNally was great for us and filled a Hyam sized hole. Had a couple of iffy games himself and hasn’t looked as good in a back 4 this year (tbf could be many reasons for that).

Thomas is a proper old school monster centre half. Better on the ball than McNally and has a big match personality. There’s work to do but I’d pick him every time over McNally.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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We got fleeced for Kitching. Imagine how much better we would’ve been with Binks/Thomas/£4.5m midfielder than Kitching/Thomas/Ayari
Kitching started more often than Binks for a reason… Binks had a few good cameos and looks tidier on the ball, but a better defender right now? Unlikely.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Considering we've spent 4 million on one of League 1s best forwards, 4 million does seem a lot for a centre half from that League.
Did we pay £4.5m upfront or is there a lot of performance incentives in there? More than likely, it’s the latter and if he meets those performance incentives, he’s probably been a good signing.

We got incentives and sell-ons for Bayliss and because he did nothing there we ended up getting a lot less than was probably quoted at the time of that transfer.

Besides, Kitching was an established starter for Barnsley in the Championship before we signed him.
 

Jamesimus

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McNally was great for us and filled a Hyam sized hole. Had a couple of iffy games himself and hasn’t looked as good in a back 4 this year (tbf could be many reasons for that).

Thomas is a proper old school monster centre half. Better on the ball than McNally and has a big match personality. There’s work to do but I’d pick him every time over McNally.

Agree with most of this but how is Thomas an old school centre half? I’d say he’s your more modern centre half with the way he passes than ball etc, and if anything, is a bit too nice!

I do see the big match personality though - Thomas always appears relaxed!
 

SwanLane

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Agree with most of this but how is Thomas an old school centre half? I’d say he’s your more modern centre half with the way he passes than ball etc, and if anything, is a bit too nice!

I do see the big match personality though - Thomas always appears relaxed!
I mean old school because he still loves getting physical, loves an aerial battle, not afraid to tackle etc. He reminds me of the centre halves who were more common in the game in the 80s and 90s.

The more ‘modern’ equivalent centre back might not be as tall, might be quicker and less likely to tackle. Their game is more about positioning and avoiding any contact that could result in cards etc.

Big generalisations and to be honest. there’s always been a place for both types. But if you imagine a spectrum, Thomas sits on the old school side( for me anyway).

As for too nice. He plays with a smile on his face but if you give him the chance, he’ll clean you out without blinking.
 

Jamesimus

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I mean old school because he still loves getting physical, loves an aerial battle, not afraid to tackle etc. He reminds me of the centre halves who were more common in the game in the 80s and 90s.

The more ‘modern’ equivalent centre back might not be as tall, might be quicker and less likely to tackle. Their game is more about positioning and avoiding any contact that could result in cards etc.

Big generalisations and to be honest. there’s always been a place for both types. But if you imagine a spectrum, Thomas sits on the old school side( for me anyway).

As for too nice. He plays with a smile on his face but if you give him the chance, he’ll clean you out without blinking.

You put your point across well, I can defo see some of that now. He is long and likes a tackle!

Yeah I like seeing him smiling in games, it’s good! Id rather that than faux-aggression.

He did get stuck in with the afters involving Summerville in that Leeds draw this season.
 
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Kitching started more often than Binks for a reason… Binks had a few good cameos and looks tidier on the ball, but a better defender right now? Unlikely.
Is Binks really better than Kitching on the ball? I think Kitching is a far better player all round despite a few mistakes towards the end of the season. I think he will be more consistent next season and may prove to be a very good signing.

Wasn't convinced about Binks until the Wembley appearance and he seemed to gain some confidence after that but I still feel Kitching is much better.
 
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Callum Doyle is class. Lets be honest we would all have him over Kitching
Yes but surely it's unrealistic to expect we could sign him? I would have thought Man City would want to loan him out to aPL team next year.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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I think the biggest signing we will have this time is the new 1st team coach, we have the diamonds in the rough. Dennis Lawrence has evidently left a large hole at the back end of the season, hopefully we get an ambitious driven guy with the empathy he showed the players.
 

SwanLane

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When Binks came on for Kitching at Wembley, it was like having another player on the pitch. He looked so assured.

But there have been other times when he’s been caught out of position and not reacted quickly enough to danger, sometimes contributing to conceding goals. He also looks a bit one paced. Kitching is a unit but can build up a bit of speed if he needs to. Not seen that from Binks.

Personally, I think Binks has a slightly better touch. It just looks more effortless and those long sweeping passes can be dreamy. Kitching is very good on his day at passing on the deck and he’s able to change pace and disguise some pretty good balls into attacking areas.

Just my random thoughts and observations about the 2. Happy to be disagreed with. Basically it’s hard to pick between them. On valuation. we did pay a lot for Kitching and one factor is that he’s left footed, like Binks. But as I’ve mentioned before, that pretty much means that they can only play as LCB (in a back 4). I’d love Binks to come back but if Bologna want silly money, it’s not worth it for us or him if he and Kitching are essentially slogging it out for one position.
 
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SBT

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When Binks came on for Kitching at Wembley, it was like having another player on the pitch.
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napolimp

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Not at all. Haven't spent any time looking at the Eerste Divisie after the Dylan Vente saga of last summer.

He's got a very complete statistical profile. Shooting, chance creation and defensive work numbers all high.

Thought he looked an interesting option at the 10 position, although I hear we may be moving away from that set-up.
 

Hobo

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Any truth in the rumour we have accepted a bid from Fulham for Sheaf?

Well if we are going to lose him, I would rather his deal is sorted early rather than the last minute like Hamer (when it was too late to sort out a replacement)?

If a Premier League Club comes in for him I can't see how we can hold onto him?
 

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