skybluecam
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Why won't the new manager be able to bring/recruit their own back room staff?
Sorry guys but there is a lot of spin from King on this one and I just don't think it quite rings true to how things went down. On Talk Sport earlier he was quizzed quite hard by Jordan and failed to answer well.
I'm not against any of the plans to re structure and move us forward, but can not understand how that could not be done with Robin's in place and wonder who could possibly be a better man coming in to replace him considering we are a championship club?
King wants a coach not as an individual but as a team member. Good luck finding someone who fits that objective. Most coaches/managers require their own back room staff. I just can't think of any coaches that are decent who would be interested. If it was Frank Lampard we would be used as his stepping stone back. Not ideal. It was a shock to see Robins go and lets hope its another shock when King appoints the next man - namely someone with a much bigger reputation than we would have thought? Now that would get him out of the dog house.
We know all too well from match threads how people can watch the exact same event and come to different conclusions or even remember what happened differently.The part I can't get my head around is how can someone who has so much respect from everyone in football including ex players is suddenly the person who has caused everything to go wrong.
Does anyone think King came out with the truth, the whole truth.and nothing but the truth?
Wrong way round. He supported the decisions, watched it go belly up, then decided to actAlmost as mad as a successful businessman watching things go belly up yet supporting the decisions
Who has said Robins didn't make mistakes? Everyone makes mistakes.it's absolutely fucking mad that some people can't get their heads around the fact that Robins made change which he has admitted to and they didn't work
it's not rocket science
Thanks for your response Mr Robins!Sorry guys but there is a lot of spin from King on this one and I just don't think it quite rings true to how things went down. On Talk Sport earlier he was quizzed quite hard by Jordan and failed to answer well.
I'm not against any of the plans to re structure and move us forward, but can not understand how that could not be done with Robin's in place and wonder who could possibly be a better man coming in to replace him considering we are a championship club?
King wants a coach not as an individual but as a team member. Good luck finding someone who fits that objective. Most coaches/managers require their own back room staff. I just can't think of any coaches that are decent who would be interested. If it was Frank Lampard we would be used as his stepping stone back. Not ideal. It was a shock to see Robins go and lets hope its another shock when King appoints the next man - namely someone with a much bigger reputation than we would have thought? Now that would get him out of the dog house.
Yet was saying things weren't right from the end of the season ?Wrong way round. He supported the decisions, watched it go belly up, then decided to act
Didn't he, I must of missed those. Tell me what questions didn't he answer ?Yet was saying things weren't right from the end of the season ?
We'll disagree but DK didn't answer all the questions put to him last night for me
You think he answered every question succinctly?Didn't he, I must of missed those. Tell me what questions didn't he answer ?
he caused the issues with the coaching system that led to a decline in performancesWho has said Robins didn't make mistakes? Everyone makes mistakes.
The question is what is the real truth. You're not going to get it all off one person. That's unless you think King never left anything out. And that is very unlikely.
I do find it all a bit mad that people have just hung on pretty much every word King said last night.Yet was saying things weren't right from the end of the season ?
We'll disagree but DK didn't answer all the questions put to him last night for me
Totally agree mateI do find it all a bit mad that people have just hung on pretty much every word King said last night.
It's just one side of a story
Anyway, as I said before, it's pointless really going over it. Here we are and we now need to focus on the future.
pretty much yeah, there was enough of the truth to get a much better understanding of what was happening inside the clubYou think he answered every question succinctly?
Were you honestly happy come the end of that forum last night?
Reasonable happy yes, but what questions didn't he answer?You think he answered every question succinctly?
Were you honestly happy come the end of that forum last night?
And you know it was all down to Robins?he caused the issues with the coaching system that led to a decline in performances
this is not up for debate, he has in the past said the coaching system we have now is his choice
Re my first pointReasonable happy yes, but what questions didn't he answer?
because Robins said the new coaching system was his choiceAnd you know it was all down to Robins?
I'd be more on the line of did every question get answered truthfully or in a way that makes King look faultless. And could better questions have been asked?Reasonable happy yes, but what questions didn't he answer?
Would you like to state that Kung has done nothing wrong and has stated everything exactly as it has happened?because Robins said the new coaching system was his choice
what part of this don't you get
the man himself admits it but you still question it
He did say he'd made mistakes and wasn't blamelessI'd be more on the line of did every question get answered truthfully or in a way that makes King look faultless. And could better questions have been asked?
The part I can't get my head around is how can someone who has so much respect from everyone in football including ex players is suddenly the person who has caused everything to go wrong.
Does anyone think King came out with the truth, the whole truth.and nothing but the truth?
More enjoyable than the last 7 years?Personally I think being a Cov fan over the next few years is going to be much more enjoyable if you give Doug the benefit of the doubt
bangs head on deskWould you like to state that Kung has done nothing wrong and has stated everything exactly as it has happened?
Seems like you enjoy making statements that have nothing to do with a question posed.bangs head on desk
ok mate Mark Robins was lying when he said the new coaching set up was his call
If that is your hill then crack on
Realistically it's not, you're not going to get four wembley appearances and two promotions. That's not to say there couldn't be some great achievements but one of the benefits of falling to the bottom is that you can have continuous 'success' for a prolonged period in recovery.Personally I think being a Cov fan over the next few years is going to be much more enjoyable if you give Doug the benefit of the doubt
we were talking about the coaching structure, you replied to me talking about itSeems like you enjoy making statements that have nothing to do with a question posed.
I'll try again. Do you think King was fully truthful and didn't leave anything out?
it's almost as if he tried to give robins time and a chanceAlmost as mad as a successful businessman watching things go belly up yet supporting the decisions
You've missed my point.Realistically it's not, you're not going to get four wembley appearances and two promotions. That's not to say there couldn't be some great achievements but one of the benefits of falling to the bottom is that you can have continuous 'success' for a prolonged period in recovery.
I fully agree.I actually hope he doesn't come out and say anything, but I do wonder, if Robins now came out and said a lot what King says is bullshit, where would everyone stand then? Still behind King?
Anyway, I don't think he will, so we are left with just one side of the story.
Time to move on.
as I have said and some clown didn't read there was enough there last night to get a better understanding of what happened and was happeningYou've missed my point.
I'm saying giving Doug the benefit of the doubt will be more enjoyable than not.
Some people seem really keen on spending the next few months/seasons waiting for us to fail so they can claim some kind of moral victory.
Well said. We desperately need to be made competitive and I believe Doug King has the vision and resources. I am looking forward to the future of CCFC. Robins and Vivesh were given the opportunity to manage this process and unfortunately weren't up to it. We move on.My thoughts
Doug King is exactly what Coventry needs right now, and it’s about time people start realizing that. This isn’t a situation where Coventry should be pandering to those clinging to the past or throwing a pity party for anyone who can’t adapt to the direction King is taking the club. We’re not in the era of old-school football management where one manager is the unquestioned boss of every little detail—this is the modern game, and King understands that. His vision for Coventry isn’t built on sentimentality or nostalgia; it’s built on results, efficiency, and an elevated level of professionalism that’s long overdue. The idea that some people feel sorry for Vivash because he didn’t want to be “undermined” by having a performance director around is just laughable. It’s 2024, not 1994. Top clubs worldwide have coaching teams, analysts, performance directors, nutritionists, sports scientists, and data-driven strategies, all working together. This isn’t a new concept, and for anyone to be offended or to claim that it "diminishes" their role is nothing short of a low-T reaction. Coventry isn’t here to nurture anyone’s outdated sense of entitlement. King is about progress and results, and the performance director is an integral part of that. This individual isn’t there to “undermine” anyone; they’re there to make sure every single department of this club operates at the highest level, free of egos and personal agendas. If anything, the resistance to this new system is just an indication of who’s really not cut out for the next level of football. Football is no longer just about gut instincts and barking orders on the training pitch; it’s about using every advantage possible, and if you’re not on board with that, maybe you’re the one who’s not fit to be here. The notion that King has somehow wronged Robin or that Robin’s role has been “diminished” is ridiculous. If anything, he was given the opportunity to step up within this new structure and lead Coventry into a new era, but instead of rising to the challenge, he and his supporters want to act like he’s a victim. Real leaders don’t complain when things change; they adapt, they find new ways to thrive, and they focus on the bigger picture. King didn’t dismiss Vivash because Robin “told him to go”—King made the call because Vivash wasn’t willing to work within a collaborative, forward-thinking setup that could actually take Coventry places. Let’s be honest: if Vivash was so indispensable, he would have found a way to make himself relevant within this new structure, rather than clinging to the idea that his word alone should be gospel. King’s decision to bring in more staff, more structure, and a dedicated performance director wasn’t some power trip—it was the next logical step for a club looking to compete at a higher level. If that makes some people uncomfortable, that’s on them. People need to stop acting like this is some personal vendetta against Robin or Vivash and start realizing that Coventry is bigger than any single individual. King has a vision that aligns with the modern realities of football, where every decision is backed by data, where departments operate with oversight, and where no one person’s ego is allowed to dictate the direction of the entire club. It’s the simps and soyboys who can’t handle the reality of a structured, competitive environment who are making this about King versus Robin, rather than acknowledging that this is about progress versus stagnation. Coventry isn’t here to play the same old game—it’s here to elevate, to compete, to dominate. Robin had his shot to prove that he could thrive in this setup, and if he wasn’t able to, that’s on him, not on King. King’s only “crime” here is setting Coventry up to be a club that thinks long-term, a club that’s adaptable, and a club that’s not afraid to make the hard choices for the sake of winning. People need to stop viewing football through the lens of “loyalty” and “tradition” and start seeing it as a business, as a competition, as a place where only the strong survive. King didn’t just walk in and decide to turn everything upside down for fun—he saw what was missing and what needed to change. The fact that Robin didn’t last in this environment isn’t a failure on King’s part; it’s a testament to his vision and his commitment to making Coventry a club that’s no longer satisfied with mediocrity. If Coventry’s supporters want to be truly competitive, they need to get on board with King’s methods and stop idolizing a system that’s outdated and inefficient.
You seem to be missing several people's points.You've missed my point.
I'm saying giving Doug the benefit of the doubt will be more enjoyable than not.
Some people seem really keen on spending the next few months/seasons waiting for us to fail so they can claim some kind of moral victory.
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