dongonzalos
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talks over rent issues have stalled (2 Viewers)
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Astute
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So do you agree with the way SISU are dealing with the matter? Are they right because of Ipswich and a couple of other clubs?
ashbyjan
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Stevenage ground is fit for purpose otherwise they wouldn't be allowed to stage games. Also have Ipswichs directors got them relegated to the first division? When in championship never heard club demanding rent reduction. If itd all about averages will you be supporting clubs decision when they decide to slash playing bill to league average?
Sky Blues
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Ipswich signed a 99-lease on Portman Road... in 1968!!!
Are the two arrangements really comparable?
Sky Blue Pete
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Excellent argument
Grendel
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One minute it's our ground is much better. Next minute when you get a comparison you don't like its because they got us relegated. Given the tone of some supporters on here if I was them I'd give the club what they want liquidation.
Astute
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Grendel
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No they sold to council who then tried to increase the rent to £130,000 A YEAR. Ipswich ignored them and settled put of court at £15,000 a year.
Astute
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And because of this SISU are right doing what they are to our club?
ashbyjan
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Grendel compare apples with apples - we are a first division side due to mismanagement. Fisher is constantly talking about ave 1st div rents so any comparison to Ipswich is irrelevant. No one wants liquidation or admin but if it does happen it will be down to SISU/clubs actions no one elses
Sky Blues
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And the club paid for the bulk of the modern Portman Road construction, as I understand it. Did CCFC build their ground?
Grendel
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We are a first division side because of mid management 10 years ago. There is not one team that survived longer than us after relegation from the premier league in this division unless they got prompted with the extra sky payments.
It's. statistical inevitability.
So are you saying we should pay an average championship rent.
Astute
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So although it took us a few seasons to get relegated, including the final one in the Championship where we lost all of our decent players to get replaced by two GK's and one other player it was not the fault in any way of SISU we got relegated to whete we are now?
ashbyjan
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Comparison to what others pay is immaterial to the whole argument whatever division numbers you wish to utilise. As you agreed previously with other posters the longer this drags on it gives credence to the theory that this whole issue that the club have engineered is about driving ACL into admin and getting Ricoh on cheap
gary_ccfcforever
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Cut the crap fish face
lordsummerisle
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To be fair, if Sisu hadn't taken us over we'd have been in League One 5 years ago, and anybody(if anybody) taking us over then would have re-negotiated the rent payments for the Ricoh if we'd had a team to play professional football at all.
That's of course pre-supposing that Uncle Joe and his "ticking clock", or more correctly now "timebomb" scaremongering comments that if Sisu didn't take us over we were doomed were true of course.
Something I very much doubt.
lordsummerisle
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Don't think we would have anyway, despite what Uncle Joe said, too much owed to Robinson and the not so good McG for that to happen.
coundonskyblue
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I still think the best time would have been when the whole stadium agreement was signed in 2003. The Council had to agree to let the Club sell its share of the Ricoh project to the Higgs trust, had they not agreed the club would have gone bust, owning half the project.
Mucca Mad Boys
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There's no evidence to support that, unless history can rerun itself -which it can't.
Astute
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There is also not any evidence not to support this.
gary_ccfcforever
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Ah fish face junior! How lovely to see you!
Official Away Travel
New Member
Should the council tax payer bear the cost of a tenant not paying the rent???
You argument will be that ACL are private company, which you have said many times before...... So this private company will pay the legal fees.
Official Away Travel
New Member
And CCFC sold there shares in the arena for £6 million about 10 years ago - that's why they pay rent.
Official Away Travel
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It's ok CJ - Grendel is fishers bitch, think he sleeps with him every night.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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But is our wage budget 6 times the average for league 1?
SkyblueBazza
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Folks...SISU own/control us. SISU by nature of their business they will play hard-ball right to the last minute, just as they did when they took over. ACL are having their bluff called. SISU approach is somewhat bullying in that they want to push ACL to the absolute limit before agreeing. ACL could return the compliment & issue the winding up order...SISU know ACL need CCFC at the Ricoh & suspect they will not issue the winding up order.
Bluffs & double bluffs all round.
I suspect we will still be at the Ricoh, SISU will still be in situe & we will all carry on with a reduced rent less money to spend than we'd like, fewer fans than we'd like & L1 status until the end of this season at the very least.
Bluffs & double bluffs all round.
I suspect we will still be at the Ricoh, SISU will still be in situe & we will all carry on with a reduced rent less money to spend than we'd like, fewer fans than we'd like & L1 status until the end of this season at the very least.
Black6Osprey
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Damn those SISU bastards
Sky Blue Pete
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I suspect the same, but it wouldn't be a shock if this was the last season for our club as we know it.
They are playing with our future and there is fook all we can do about it
I'd be very surprised
Grendel
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Same as stoke at the Brittania and they bought it back - for £6 million. This club is prohibited to do that.