Taxi on the way (4 Viewers)

clint van damme · Dec 10, 2017

the really worrying thing for me yesterday wasn't the players who played poorly it was the players who just didn't seem to want to get involved in the game.
While we are still in a play off position I can't help but hope for promotion but my head is trying to tell my heart we'll be mid table best and not too get it's hopes up.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 10, 2017

Amcoventry said:
Blackburn won again and sit 3rd on the table - any idea how?

The biggest budget in the league and a squad he inherited that could compete jn the championship.

Anything other than auto promotion would be an abject failure.

Otis · Dec 10, 2017

standupforcity said:
Remarkably we're still in the playoffs...it's hard to believe how badly we do against the lower teams and raise our game against the top runners. Do we get complacent or what? I'll be at the Cheltenham game on Sat and expect a much improved performance after this umpteenth wake up call. But the attendance will probably be the worst of the season and confidence will be low, so who knows. What I don't get most is how this just seems to be something we do, no matter which division or who the manager is or who the players are. We all long for the big turn around where we can string together a succession of wins, or even good performances. Heyho....but sacking MR isn't the answer!

It is if the question is what do we keep doing every year that never really helps us.

Otis · Dec 10, 2017

clint van damme said:
the really worrying thing for me yesterday wasn't the players who played poorly it was the players who just didn't seem to want to get involved in the game.
While we are still in a play off position I can't help but hope for promotion but my head is trying to tell my heart we'll be mid table best and not too get it's hopes up.

That's what I just don't get at all. Robins has hinted Nazon wasn't up for it and fans have said he wasn't up for it and even looked disinterested in the warm up, yet posters are on here are saying he shouldn't have been taken off.

If he couldn't be at all arsed my only complaint is that we maybe should have taken him off sooner.

itsabuzzard · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
Bang on queue
Scape goat time ......

The right DNA

Cue

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dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

itsabuzzard said:
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Sky Blue Harry H · Dec 10, 2017

The reason some players don't get to the level they should is because of inconsistency - whether that be attitude or ability. Most fans will quickly (rightly) pick on those with questionable ability and an inconsistent attitude, The frustrating ones are those with obvious ability but inconsistent attitude (Nazon ?) , whilst we will have more patience with those who, whilst limited, have a good attitude (Doyle?) We have been unlucky in that a few key players have been laid off with injury, but hope that we can get the right people in in January, One thing I thought MR was right about in his post match interview, is that even if we are performing poorly ,all players must give 100% to give us the best chance of getting anything out of the game. Anything else is unacceptable,

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

skybluebeduff said:
It's the only way this club can be turned around, or else we'll continue in the same continuous loop whilst they remain. It amazes me why so many people don't comprehend it first and foremost.

It is quite incredible. It is not possible to have had that many bad managers and bad players since they took over.
Managers, players and directors have come and gone.
Joy has stayed and for a long period now so has Tim.
This is what needs changing.

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

skybluebeduff said:
How is that contracting myself when it's the truth? he's a muppet who consistently gets proven wrong.
We can play this game all night mate, but I'm not the one looking like a twat calling for the managers head. I'm calling for the owners head and soon as I did, you crop up, no coincidence either.

Correct

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

Londonccfcfan said:
This is the time in the season where MR earns his buck. He has a top 6 budget. Its his team, i believe SISU have backed him big time this season more than i thought they would.
I believe the next few games we will see if he has the dresing room. As i think hes given the players a rocket,

Bur todays performance was unacceptable.
We made them look like the top 6 team.
Tactics if there was any was atrocious, everybody could see three strikers didnt work. Completely overun in midfield.

2 wins in 10 league matches is unacceptable.

I for the first time this season boo'd the players off along with many others.

It was teuky atrocious, they wanted it so much more, they looked stronger sharper, more technically gifted and more of team.

Truly shell shocked. Add insult to injury this away day has cost me £200 plus!

MR should have come come to the fans to clap tyem off, instead he did a token gesture lil clap from hakway line.

Reallt not good enough for the best supported club in this league bar none away from home.

Agree with everything you say regarding the fans and definitely including yourself fairplay to you. Your commitment beggars belief.
However do you not see that constantly sacking managers or getting them to resign has not worked.
It is now a tried and tested path for us that has failed every time.
In Tony Mowbray yes we were top of the league and yet missed out on the play offs. Yet we played great football. His reputation got us the likes of Joe Cole Murphy, Kent and Armstrong.
Yet we encouraged him to resign!!!
Look at what happened from that point.
Since SISU have come in we have had more managers than there have been seasons.
The squad has changed every year.
Are we really that unlucky that we have never signed a decent manager or a decent 11 players.
It is down to the top brass to pick the manager. If it is correct that they have never picked a good one out of the last 11 or so since they have been here. Then they really have to go.

Their resume so far since owning the club is as follows

Failures

Relegation from championship
Relegation from League 1
Talent spotted 5-6 directors who then had to be moved on as failures.
Picked 9-11 managers who have had to be moved on as failures.
Attempted to buy ACL buy devaluing it. They were quite successful at that but then didn’t bid for it when they were warned the council were going to find a different buyer.
Made an enemy of the the people we would always need help from the ever move in as a club.
Continue to antagonise those same people that we need help from.
Annoyed the new set of people we need help from.

Reduced attendances to a level never seen before.
Moved us out of Coventry losing us numerous fans past, present and future

Success

1 Checkatrade trophy

Anyone else who screwed up so much would be gone.
Instead we will blame Robins he will get sacked or leave and round we go again.

clint van damme · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
Agree with everything you say regarding the fans and definitely including yourself fairplay to you. Your commitment beggars belief.
However do you not see that constantly sacking managers or getting them to resign has not worked.
It is now a tried and tested path for us that has failed every time.
In Tony Mowbray yes we were top of the league and yet missed out on the play offs. Yet we played great football. His reputation got us the likes of Joe Cole Murphy, Kent and Armstrong.
Yet we encouraged him to resign!!!
Look at what happened from that point.
Since SISU have come in we have had more managers than there have been seasons.
The squad has changed every year.
Are we really that unlucky that we have never signed a decent manager or a decent 11 players.
It is down to the top brass to pick the manager. If it is correct that they have never picked a good one out of the last 11 or so since they have been here. Then they really have to go.

Their resume so far since owning the club is as follows

Failures

Relegation from championship
Relegation from League 1
Talent spotted 5-6 directors who then had to be moved on as failures.
Picked 9-11 managers who have had to be moved on as failures.
Attempted to buy ACL buy devaluing it. They were quite successful at that but then didn’t bid for it when they were warned the council were going to find a different buyer.
Made an enemy of the the people we would always need help from the ever move in as a club.
Continue to antagonise those same people that we need help from.
Annoyed the new set of people we need help from.

Reduced attendances to a level never seen before.
Moved us out of Coventry losing us numerous fans past, present and future

Success

1 Checkatrade trophy

Anyone else who screwed up so much would be gone.
Instead we will blame Robins he will get sacked or leave and round we go again.

re: Mowbray, you skipped over the fact that he spent his second summer chasing unachievable transfer targets and didn't win a game in the first 10 before resigning..

Of course we need new owners, but even within the constraints of working for the basket case that is CCFC you can't tell me that the manager and players shouldn't shoulder responsibility for a shambles like yesterday?

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

clint van damme said:
re: Mowbray, you skipped over the fact that he spent his second summer chasing unachievable transfer targets and didn't win a game in the first 10 before resigning..

Of course we need new owners, but even within the constraints of working for the basket case that is CCFC you can't tell me that the manager and players shouldn't shoulder responsibility for a shambles like yesterday?

So you think since SISU have been in charge we have never signed a single decent manager?
If that is correct then the people choosing the manager needs changing

Nick · Dec 10, 2017

clint van damme said:
re: Mowbray, you skipped over the fact that he spent his second summer chasing unachievable transfer targets and didn't win a game in the first 10 before resigning..

Of course we need new owners, but even within the constraints of working for the basket case that is CCFC you can't tell me that the manager and players shouldn't shoulder responsibility for a shambles like yesterday?

He wouldn't know, he has no idea when it comes to actual football matches and the goings on on the pitch.

Robins has no excuse, no hands tied or anything like that. I don't want him to be sacked now though, I want to give him time to address it and work through it properly.

People bang on like every other club has some sort of multi million pound budget that we don't, pretty much all of the teams we have lost against will have lesser budgets.

Of course SISU are shit, of course everybody wants new owners to come in but unless it's a multi millionaire willing to piss money away or a rich price wanting a play thing it's going to be the same break even / self sufficient model.

Nick · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
So you think since SISU have been in charge we have never signed a single decent manager?
If that is correct then the people choosing the manager needs changing

Maybe you can expand and talk about football?

Do you think Morecambe have a bigger budget and wage bill than us? The managers and players do have to shoulder blame for certain things, again I am far from saying sack Robins but I am saying he needs to address it and sort it out.

There is no excuse for anything less than top 7 this season, he doesn't have half as many constraints as most of the League 2 managers he comes up against.

Great_Expectations · Dec 10, 2017

I don’t want MR to be sacked, but he seriously needs to change tact as he’s beginning to look clueless if we are being blunt.

Since September, I’ve repeated the same things; we’re one dimensional, we are too defensive, we only have one out and out winger, our tactics are non-existent and overall a distinct lack of creativity. I’m not alone in observing those things, yet Robins, whose job it is to do so, seemingly had not.

I appreciate he’s been unlucky with plan a (Andreu) and then b (Jones), but he has to adapt. Trying to play the same formation/tactics regardless of opposition and personnel is not.

Side note - the SISU argument is lazy and boring, we all appreciate they’ve been poor owners etc, and if we had money bag owners things would be easier, but it doesn’t absolve the manager of their responsibility for things on the pitch.

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

Nick said:
He wouldn't know, he has no idea when it comes to actual football matches and the goings on on the pitch.

Robins has no excuse, no hands tied or anything like that. I don't want him to be sacked now though, I want to give him time to address it and work through it properly.

People bang on like every other club has some sort of multi million pound budget that we don't, pretty much all of the teams we have lost against will have lesser budgets.

Of course SISU are shit, of course everybody wants new owners to come in but unless it's a multi millionaire willing to piss money away or a rich price wanting a play thing it's going to be the same break even / self sufficient model.

With all due respect you are a cheeky fucker.
You could go to 100 matches in a row and still not have the foggiest.
Funny seeing you get your knickers in a twist over the suggestion you look for arguments earlier in this thread, then you post the above. Prize .......

clint van damme · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
So you think since SISU have been in charge we have never signed a single decent manager?
If that is correct then the people choosing the manager needs changing

I think Robins is a decent manager but there are issues he seriously needs to get to grips with.
He was allowed to recruit early, he was allowed to hand out contracts of a decent length, he has been allowed to move away from being too heavily reliant on loans, all things I was massively critical of yet at the moment we're really struggling.
I know he's had bad luck with injuries but I can't see how you can blame the owners, no matter how bad, for the total lack on inerterst yesterday.

JWC · Dec 10, 2017

singers_pore said:
When we had McGoldrick people thought MR was the messiah. Now that Jones is injured people think that MR is to blame.

Sooner or later our fans will work out that the performances are down to player quality, and the manager has very little effect.

It’s been obvious to most of us that the problems lie with our so called strikers. But some people on here try to defend the indefensible when it comes to McNulty and Biamou.

Agree/disagree with this. I’ve always been confident that our players are decent at this level but yesterday put doubts in my mind. Morecambe probably had a very good day but they had at least a couple of outstanding players who looked way better than any of our lot.

They also looked like they played as a proper team, and that has to be down to management. Playing the right tactics/formation always has a huge effect and it wasn’t right yesterday, far from it. Set them up right and they’ve been given the best chance to perform.

But yeah, I’m losing faith with the strikers. They’re not looking good enough.

Nick · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
With all due respect you are a cheeky fucker.
You could go to 100 matches in a row and still not have the foggiest.
Funny seeing you get your knickers in a twist over the suggestion you look for arguments earlier in this thread, then you post the above. Prize .......

No, I pointed out the poster who suggested it had his first post of the day clearly looking for an argument so it was a bit ironic. At least read it properly.

I quite clearly have the foggiest from watching football, I see what happens and goes on. I see tactical decisions, I see opposition teams set their tactics, I see players making runs. I see managers making changes when they spot something isn't working. I see us trying the same system with different players and it not working, I see the massive gap between midfield and attack, I see no plan on the pitch or idea of how they have been told to break the opposition down. I see Morecambe players who collectively will be getting paid less than our players going out there with a clear game plan, knowing their jobs and sticking to them to get the win.

Near enough all of our bad results have been against teams lower down, they have less resources, lower budgets but they have a game plan. They set out from the off knowing what's what. Some of their managers will be working to get the best out of what they have, they will use a system to suit the players / opposition and conditions.

That's the difference to when somebody logs into social media of an evening after a loss and BBC live text to see what other people have said to try and form opinions based on that week in week out. Then you multiply it with plenty of others with no idea of what actually happened on the pitch but start getting angry and worked up.

It's the same as your obsession with strikers, even though yesterday we could have had the best strikers in the league and the league above playing and we would still have lost.

Colin Steins Smile · Dec 10, 2017

The pressure on the defence to keep clean sheets has been significant, as the team has struggled to score. This must be pretty wearing for the back four and could be a factor in a dip in form.
Secondly, I wonder if Ducks reported disinterest yesterday is linked to the upcoming transfer window and whether he has been tapped up for a move to a club in higher division and doesn’t want to risk injury.
As for calls to sack MR.....we have endured massive instability in the club from boardroom to field of play. We desperately need stability. Sacking MR will not change the environment in our club. That’s the source of our problems & once that’s sorted, then think about the managers position.

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

clint van damme said:
I think Robins is a decent manager but there are issues he seriously needs to get to grips with.
He was allowed to recruit early, he was allowed to hand out contracts of a decent length, he has been allowed to move away from being too heavily reliant on loans, all things I was massively critical of yet at the moment we're really struggling.
I know he's had bad luck with injuries but I can't see how you can blame the owners, no matter how bad, for the total lack on inerterst yesterday.

The owners are the only constant factor we have had during this spiral of decline since they have been in charge.
However I agree passion and fight is a minimum that should always be expected.
However it’s not been often this season that our team has not displayed that.

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

Nick said:
No, I pointed out the poster who suggested it had his first post of the day clearly looking for an argument so it was a bit ironic. At least read it properly.

I quite clearly have the foggiest from watching football, I see what happens and goes on. I see tactical decisions, I see opposition teams set their tactics, I see players making runs. I see managers making changes when they spot something isn't working. I see us trying the same system with different players and it not working, I see the massive gap between midfield and attack, I see no plan on the pitch or idea of how they have been told to break the opposition down. I see Morecambe players who collectively will be getting paid less than our players going out there with a clear game plan, knowing their jobs and sticking to them to get the win.

Near enough all of our bad results have been against teams lower down, they have less resources, lower budgets but they have a game plan. They set out from the off knowing what's what. Some of their managers will be working to get the best out of what they have, they will use a system to suit the players / opposition and conditions.

That's the difference to when somebody logs into social media of an evening after a loss and BBC live text to see what other people have said to try and form opinions based on that week in week out. Then you multiply it with plenty of others with no idea of what actually happened on the pitch but start getting angry and worked up.

It's the same as your obsession with strikers, even though yesterday we could have had the best strikers in the league and the league above playing and we would still have lost.

You could go to every match home and away yet there are posters in here who could go to 2 games and still work out what is happening quicker than you. You are clueless.
Keep going though even the slowest of people eventually learn through repetition.

Nick · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
You could go to every match home and away yet there are posters in here who could go to 2 games and still work out what is happening quicker than you. You are clueless.
Keep going though even the slowest of people eventually learn through repetition.

So why don't you ever seem to be able to correct me when I report on exactly what happens at each match? Why do you always show yourself to have no idea about what goes on?

It's all well and good saying how clueless I am when I discuss football but what you should really do is start proving me wrong about things. You struggle more than anybody when it comes to discussing things that happen on the pitch, so I am not sure why you are giving it the big one. You rely on live text and other people's comments to form an opinion, you consistently show you have no idea of the context of them either.

You can start on the player ratings thread from yesterday if you like.

bawtryneal · Dec 10, 2017

clint van damme said:
re: Mowbray, you skipped over the fact that he spent his second summer chasing unachievable transfer targets and didn't win a game in the first 10 before resigning..

Of course we need new owners, but even within the constraints of working for the basket case that is CCFC you can't tell me that the manager and players shouldn't shoulder responsibility for a shambles like yesterday?

He was chasing targets as per his agreed budget and then had his budget reduced significantly. FACT.

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

Nick said:
So why don't you ever seem to be able to correct me when I report on exactly what happens at each match? Why do you always show yourself to have no idea about what goes on?

It's all well and good saying how clueless I am when I discuss football but what you should really do is start proving me wrong about things.

You not accepting it when I correct you isn’t the same as not correcting you.
You just argue and argue till I get bored and stop replying. That’s not the same as me stopping because your point is correct. I just get bored.
The fact you don’t understand how having the strength and power of 6ft 5 Kieffer Moore playing alongside the the pace of finishing of Jack Marriott would have meant we would mostly likely have won yesterday’s game tells me all I need to know.
Having Moore and Marriott would have completely changed our playing style, tactics as well as our belief and confidence.
You wrongly assume the game would be exactly the same and you are looking at the chances as they were.
You don’t understand the chances that would be created because of the impact of those two players.
As I say you are clueless. Yet you will argue against this forever.
Oh I probably should mention Marriott and Moore and the best strikers in the league above.

Nick · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
You not accepting it when I correct you isn’t the same as not correcting you.
You just argue and argue till I get bored and stop replying. That’s not the same as me stopping because your point is correct. I just get bored.
The fact you don’t understand how having the strength and power of 6ft 5 Kieffer Moore playing alongside the the pace of finishing of Jack Marriott would have meant we would mostly likely have won yesterday’s game tells me all I need to know.
Having Moore and Marriott would have completely changed our playing style, tactics as well as our belief and confidence.
You wrongly assume the game would be exactly the same and you are looking at the chances as they were.
You don’t understand the chances that would be created because of the impact of those two players.
As I say you are clueless. Yet you will argue against this forever.
Oh I probably should mention Marriott and Moore and the best strikers in the league above.

Because you don't correct me, you don't actually know what goes on on the pitch to be able to. You try to use quotes from other people or BBC stats.

It doesn't matter about the finishing as we didn't have any chances for him to finish. Biamou won pretty much every header that came to him as well.

One of the issues people are pointing out is that Robins doesn't change the system to suit the players he has to use it to our advantage, it doesn't matter whether it's Kelly playing or not we have players trying to fit into Kelly's role who can't do it. Rather than change the system and the role of whoever is alongside Doyle.

These are the things people point out, one massive thing is how Robin's doesn't change the playing style or tactics if the players on the pitch change.

That's where you don't realise you aren't really understanding what is going on or what's happening during games. You have multiple people who all watch the games tell you the same thing week in, week out.

Nick · Dec 10, 2017

bawtryneal said:
He was chasing targets as per his agreed budget and then had his budget reduced significantly. FACT.

At what point did it happen?

He was still chasing one at the end of July and we signed Reid on apparent decent money.

Would be interesting to know to then assess his signings before / after that point.

Grendel · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
Agree with everything you say regarding the fans and definitely including yourself fairplay to you. Your commitment beggars belief.
However do you not see that constantly sacking managers or getting them to resign has not worked.
It is now a tried and tested path for us that has failed every time.
In Tony Mowbray yes we were top of the league and yet missed out on the play offs. Yet we played great football. His reputation got us the likes of Joe Cole Murphy, Kent and Armstrong.
Yet we encouraged him to resign!!!
Look at what happened from that point.
Since SISU have come in we have had more managers than there have been seasons.
The squad has changed every year.
Are we really that unlucky that we have never signed a decent manager or a decent 11 players.
It is down to the top brass to pick the manager. If it is correct that they have never picked a good one out of the last 11 or so since they have been here. Then they really have to go.

Their resume so far since owning the club is as follows

Failures

Relegation from championship
Relegation from League 1
Talent spotted 5-6 directors who then had to be moved on as failures.
Picked 9-11 managers who have had to be moved on as failures.
Attempted to buy ACL buy devaluing it. They were quite successful at that but then didn’t bid for it when they were warned the council were going to find a different buyer.
Made an enemy of the the people we would always need help from the ever move in as a club.
Continue to antagonise those same people that we need help from.
Annoyed the new set of people we need help from.

Reduced attendances to a level never seen before.
Moved us out of Coventry losing us numerous fans past, present and future

Success

1 Checkatrade trophy

Anyone else who screwed up so much would be gone.
Instead we will blame Robins he will get sacked or leave and round we go again.

Pressley Coleman and to an extent Mowbray are three of the longest serving managers we’ve had in the last 30 years

Until last season they’d actually held on to managers far longer than prior regimes.

skybluetony176 · Dec 10, 2017

Grendel said:
Pressley Coleman and to an extent Mowbray are three of the longest serving managers we’ve had in the last 30 years

Until last season they’d actually held on to managers far longer than prior regimes.

Are you saying holding onto managers too long is another failure to add to the long list of SISU failures.

clint van damme · Dec 10, 2017

bawtryneal said:
He was chasing targets as per his agreed budget and then had his budget reduced significantly. FACT.

don't believe that for one minute and putting fact in capitals at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.
He was going to Rotherham FACT according to you but that wasn't true either.

Grendel · Dec 10, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
Are you saying holding onto managers too long is another failure to add to the long list of SISU failures.

Hello tony - holding onto managers too long in the shape of Strachan and Thorn cost us two relegations. Not sacking Mowbray in February potentially cost us promotion.

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

Nick said:
Because you don't correct me, you don't actually know what goes on on the pitch to be able to. You try to use quotes from other people or BBC stats.

It doesn't matter about the finishing as we didn't have any chances for him to finish. Biamou won pretty much every header that came to him as well.

One of the issues people are pointing out is that Robins doesn't change tjhe system to suit the players he has to use it to our advantage, it doesn't matter whether it's Kelly playing or not we have players trying to fit into Kelly's role who can't do it. Rather than change the system and the role of whoever is alongside Doyle.

These are the things people point out, one massive thing is how Robin's doesn't change the playing style or tactics if the players on the pitch change.

That's where you don't realise you aren't really understanding what is going on or what's happening during games.

And there you prove the point and your lack of understanding.
You can’t get it into your head that different strikers mean you get different chances.
You can only think one dimensionally. You put new strikers into the sane game and say they had no chances so it’s doesnt matter if Messi was there. He can’t score if he doesn’t get a chance.
What you fail to understand is that different players means the whole game changes.
You are wrong to say that if you put the best strikers from league one into that team we would have still lost.
If you had 6ft 5 Kieffer Moore in that team.
He would have made additional chances out of some of the set pieces.
We would have changed our style of play to use his height to our advantage.
Marriott would have been feeding off him and creating chances from his flick ons.
When and if we came under the cosh he would have been an outlet for us to take the pressure off.
Also the whole psychology of the team changes if you have two strikers scripting goals like those two are. Confidence goes sky high.
You can’t get your head around the idea that a couple of decent strikers means additional chances will be created due to their impact.
You just simply look at how the game went and say put anyone in there it doesn’t matter as they never got a chance to score.
It’s shows your lack of understanding. You are corrected but you don’t get it.
That’s not the same as you not getting corrected.

Speedies_Chips · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
To be fair nothing against the bloke but I always did find this fascination with him by Cov fans as a bit bizarre.
Prior to us he had hardly set the world alight.
With us he inherited DMC who went on fire.
He was smart enough to the jump ship before it imploded.
At Huddersfield he was below par as shown by his predecessors.
Came back here as the Missiah when really he was just a naughty boy.
Saying it all that, we have sacked too many managers too soon. That is our downfall. The blokes budget is around where we are.
Give him the January Window.
Hoping Mcnulty would score 20 was his biggest screw up. However signing McDonald, Doyle, Kelly and Grimmer outweighs that. Let’s see if he can get a creator to replace Jones and a goalscorer.
Then for once in our sorry lives if a manager gets us around where our budget is let’s not sack him.
Instead let’s look at the Senior management team to get a budget in the top three next time and guess what......

What did his predecessors achieve at Huddersfield?

Nick · Dec 10, 2017

dongonzalos said:
And there you prove the point and your lack of understanding.
You can’t get it into your head that different strikers mean you get different chances.
You can only think one dimensionally. You put new strikers into the sane game and say they had no chances so it’s doesnt matter if Messi was there. He can’t score if he doesn’t get a chance.
What you fail to understand is that different players means the whole game changes.
You are wrong to say that if you put the best strikers from league one into that team we would have still lost.
If you had 6ft 5 Kieffer Moore in that team.
He would have made additional chances out of some of the set pieces.
We would have changed our style of play to use his height to our advantage.
Marriott would have been feeding off him and creating chances from his flick ons.
When and if we came under the cosh he would have been an outlet for us to take the pressure off.
Also the whole psychology of the team changes if you have two strikers scripting goals like those two are. Confidence goes sky high.
You can’t get your head around the idea that a couple of decent strikers means additional chances will be created due to their impact.
You just simply look at how the game went and say put anyone in there it doesn’t matter as they never got a chance to score.
It’s shows your lack of understanding. You are corrected but you don’t get it.
That’s not the same as you not getting corrected.

What set pieces? Shipley put a couple in that were awful.

There was no midfield at all, the system didn't work and we clearly got over-ran by Morecambe at the back as all 4 defenders were awful.

You can't get your head around that we don't create anything or offer anything going forward as the system and the way we line up is way too negative. That's what watching games tells most people and it's where you seem to struggle.

You would realise we don't change our style of play to suit different players, that's the point people are making about Robins is that he hasn't adapted or adjusted anything. Whether they are 7 foot 10 or 4 foot 5 the approach is the same. Every man and his dog can notice Vincenti isn't a right winger, but instead of adjusting the system to suit he whacks him out on the right wing.

I don't want him sacked, I want him to start adapting rather than being stubborn.

You aren't correcting me about anything, all you are doing is making up things in your head all of the time about how it would be IF this and IF that rather than discussing how it actually is week in week out. You were the same going on about Nazon not needing passing to others because he doesn't trust them, the next week he actually passed and it made a world of difference and you never did reply. People had been saying it for weeks, pointing out situations where it happened, showing GIFS and your answer was some made up theory it's because he was top scorer so he didn't need to.

Try talking about issues that have happened / do happen during our games, not what they would with your imaginary dream team from BBC stats.

dongonzalos · Dec 10, 2017

Nick said:
What set pieces? Shipley put a couple in that were awful.

There was no midfield at all, the system didn't work and we clearly got over-ran by Morecambe at the back as all 4 defenders were awful.

You can't get your head around that we don't create anything or offer anything going forward as the system and the way we line up is way too negative. That's what watching games tells most people and it's where you seem to struggle.

You would realise we don't change our style of play to suit different players, that's the point people are making about Robins is that he hasn't adapted or adjusted anything. Whether they are 7 foot 10 or 4 foot 5 the approach is the same. Every man and his dog can notice Vincenti isn't a right winger, but instead of adjusting the system to suit he whacks him out on the right wing.

I don't want him sacked, I want him to start adapting rather than being stubborn.

You aren't correcting me about anything, all you are doing is making up things in your head all of the time about how it would be IF this and IF that rather than discussing how it actually is week in week out. You were the same going on about Nazon not needing passing to others because he doesn't trust them, the next week he actually passed and it made a world of difference and you never did reply. People had been saying it for weeks, pointing out situations where it happened, showing GIFS and your answer was some made up theory it's because he was top scorer so he didn't need to.

Try talking about issues that have happened / do happen during our games, not what they would with your imaginary dream team from BBC stats.

See you don’t get it.
If you don’t understand how putting Kieffer Moore and Marriott into our team would completely alter our style of play. Then I give up.
Again just to let you know, you have been corrected. I am just giving up at correcting you as you don’t understand it..

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