dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
Sorry Speedie the current manager not predecessor
What did his predecessors achieve at Huddersfield?
See you don’t get it.
If you don’t understand how putting Kieffer Moore and Marriott into our team would completely alter our style of play. Then I give up.
Again just to let you know, you have been corrected. I am just giving up at correcting you as you don’t understand it..
Sorry Speedie the current manager not predecessor
The two managers who succeeded Robins there had a worse record then him
Are they the current manager?
No, you don't get it.
Read what people are saying, it doesn't matter who is playing. Our system, style of play and approach is exactly the same. It doesn't matter if it's a big striker or small striker, we are winning or losing, the opposition are pressing or parking the bus. Everything remains the same.
As I keep saying, discuss what's actually happening instead of your made up dream team and what if's. You keep banging on that others know nothing about football yet you can't discuss football it seems unless it is a what if or imaginary scenario like reasons why Jones and Nazon shouldn't / couldn't pass.
I guess when you were going through your Thorn phase it was imaginary too.
I am reading what you are saying and you said if you put the best strikers from the league above into our team yesterday we still would have lost.
You don’t understand how introducing the skills of two new players changes how a team plays.
Putting Moore and Marriott in our team would have more likely than not produced a totally different game of football to yesterdays.
You are suggesting IF by saying IF you put them in it would have been the same result.
I am dealing with that IF that you have suggested and correcting you (as you put it). That you can look at it as the exact same game in terms of how it was played and the chances as those two players add a completely different dimension. They will cause our style of play and tactics to change. They will create chances because of their constrasting physical abilities and skills.
The fact you don’t understand that says it all really.
For your logic you may as well say you could have had Ronaldo in our team yesterday and he would not have scored as we didn’t create any chances.
Hello tony - holding onto managers too long in the shape of Strachan and Thorn cost us two relegations. Not sacking Mowbray in February potentially cost us promotion.
Yet again you completely fail to notice that it's pointed out our style of play, formation and system remains the same.
It doesn't matter about physical attributes, we play the same whether it is Biamou, Beavon or Nazon up front. Robins doesn't adjust to suit the players as his disposal in the slightest. You are assuming that everybody else in the team and the manager would be using a system to suit the 2 striker's strong points, which is exactly what is being said doesn't happen.
You are trying your best to get away from actually discussing what goes on in our matches and what is and isn't working for us, the same as you do every time.
Read what people say who do go to games, read feedback from people who watch things week in week out. Instead you are giving it the football expert from your armchair like you know everything every week, when in reality you get shown you know fuck all when you try because you bang on about people like Andy Thorn.
The more and more you go on, the more you show you don't have the foggiest what goes on during the games, but then you try to act the expert about it all based on BBC stats. What's the point? Bang on and on about why Nazon doesn't pass and why he shouldn't because he is top scorer, then piped down when he actually decided to pass that game and it completely changed the game. (as people like me had been pointing out for weeks that it would).
I am trying my best at pointing out to you that you were wrong when you said if we added the best players from the league above to this team we still wouldn’t have won.
I am trying my best at pointing out to you that when you add different players to a game with better skills you don’t get the exact same game as you had without them.
So you are wrong when you say they wouldn’t score as there were no chances created.
I am trying my best to point out you that I never correct you, that in fact I do pretty much every time. That you don’t agree with me doesn’t suddenly mean it hasn’t happened.
It just means you don’t agree with me.
So in summary
You are wrong that you never get corrected
You are wrong that if we added the best strikers from the league above we wouldn’t win the game.
You are also wrong that adding better strikers doesn’t lead to a increase in creativity.
You are also wrong that best strikers don’t receive more service than less able strikers.
Fuck sake the best thing to do is write to Mystic Meg to see who which one is right...
Quite a few.
Yet people keep saying we don't make changes we do just can't put them away.
Fuck sake the best thing to do is write to Mystic Meg to see who which one is right...
So two out of three were SISU failures then is what you are saying.
PS I knew you’d be the first to start a thread like this.
I am shocked that he wants a manager who he believes is a ‘miracle worker’ sacked.
Then again I am not really just shows he did have a clue what he was talking about back then.
More things made up in your head. That's the difference, I am talking about things that have actually happened on the pitch, you are on a different planet now going on about things I've never said.We don’t need to do that mate.
Nick is never wrong and when he doesn’t agree with afterwards the conversation never even happened.
It’s great in his world.
Agree, he needs a chance to at least show he is dealing with it and adapting to no Jones etc.FFS, we’re still 7th in the league despite two serious injuries to our best players, with one of the best defensive records in the league.
Yes, performances haven’t been great recently and yes, we don’t score enough but sacking manager after manager hasn’t worked.
Give him until the end of the season...if no promotion (even via play offs) then start looking but at the moment, hell no.
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And there you have hit the nail on the head. Players who were/are not bothered or good enough. 4-5 of them still here and people expect results/things to change.re: Mowbray, you skipped over the fact that he spent his second summer chasing unachievable transfer targets and didn't win a game in the first 10 before resigning..
Of course we need new owners, but even within the constraints of working for the basket case that is CCFC you can't tell me that the manager and players shouldn't shoulder responsibility for a shambles like yesterday?
I would not be contemplating sacking MR at the moment, I would allow him the transfer window and the rest of the season. I do find myself, amazingly, agreeing with Grendle in that once Managers start on a downward spiral, very often they cannot reverse the trend. They become resistant to change, adopting a siege mentality that seldom works. I stress that I believe that MR needs much more time, but if there is a run of poor results, a decision will need to be made as to whether the current Manager can turn it around. I’d still rather the taxi would call and take Grendel away.Well you don’t have a clue - most of us on the forum know that.
He was a miracle worker as he managed to rescue a team that was rock bottom, unfit and unorganised having been “managed” by the clueless one - remember him? You know the one that you thought was better than Sam Allardyce?
That’s not and never is the point though. Managers have a downward curve they rarely recover from. They are obstinate and reluctant to change as the spiral goes down. What went before becomes irrelevant as when Mowbray spiralled downwards - the button has to be pressed soon enough to ensure a recovery can be made.
We can but dream.I’d still rather the taxi would call and take Grendel away.
You know the one that you thought was better than Sam Allardyce?
Is the same manager you had a hissy fit with me over when I wouldn’t agree that he was a premier league quality manager as you were trying to sell his appointment as SISU success? Funnily enough you were the one starting threads on here calling for his head that time too. If we’re the most fickle supporters in the country you’re the most fickle of all of us.
2 wins in 10 is not good enough.
If we are not in the play off places by the New Year then he has to go. The squad is good enough, its just some of his selections are questionable.
So who could get us promoted?2 wins in 10 is not good enough.
If we are not in the play off places by the New Year then he has to go. The squad is good enough, its just some of his selections are questionable.
You can not be serious .There is still time to cancel it but unless things improve before the end of December it has to be arriving for Mr Robins soon.
Past your bedtime
Robins can, I want him to turn things around but we need to ensure we are in the play offs before January.So who could get us promoted?
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