skybluetony176
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They’re treating their followers like the proverbial plebs they see them as and in plain sight. And yet the “plebs” can’t see it. Turkeys for Xmas.
I couldn’t give a shit mate. I’ve got enough skills to work wherever I want if this country goes tits up.
Just find the endless idiocy pretty hilarious. That lot must piss themselves that they’ve managed to convince so many people they’re “man of the people” or whatever. You couldn’t make it up, bunch of posh boy traders convince a load of white van men they’re on their side.
His only ‘real’ manifesto is his own personal gain. He is however a shrewd operator and knew there was a gaping hole to exploit once it was evident we were not exiting on 29th March.
Democracy is to leave, but it doesn’t have to be the way he wants it. He will always have some supporters that will want the Hard Brexit line, or buy into his immigration bollocks.
There has been a massive underestimation of those people who want to leave because it’s been so shit for the last 10/20 years.
Agreed... but I think a form is Brexit is a will of the people, albeit everyone is pretty divided.There’s no consensus anywhere for a hard brexit. Will of the people is bollocks talk.
Change must realise they need a boost. If its Soubry Vs Farage like on QT, don't fancy their chances - particularly if she doesn't get her facts right.I see Change U.K. has just publicly challenged Ferage by way of a party political broadcast to a public debate on brexit.
I'm sure they would have...but out too much faith in opinion polls perhaps?Shame no one pointed that out to May when she called an early election under the misguided notion that she could increase her majority on the strength of opinion polls.
So they make their own destiny!Labour do not have the majority in the house. Nothing has the majority of the house, except for not wanting a no-deal Brexit. These negotiations can keep happening as much as they like, but the reality is that unless the Tories concede ground there is no deal, because May's deal won't get through.
So what's the one thing you can control - what you will do if you were in government.
The Brexit party will win these EU elections - let them have their seats in a European Council that they supposedly don't want to even be part of. They also don't have a single other policy, and at some point that will bite them in the arse.
But if they are elected - obviously they will hace the mandate to bring it about...if that is a problem for you maybe you should go join Mart in Germany?If the brexit Party are ever elected to government their one and only policy is hard brexit. What’s stopping them doing it once they’ve been elected and we’ve had their hard brexit other than economic sanity? Will VAT below 4% be in their manifesto? Yes or No?
There's a huge lead building for the Brexit party Mart.. no one wants to see democracy wiped under the carpet by a load of self interested wet ends !! Rule Britannia !!
...but you appear to question only specific ones on one side of the argument!My grandfather always told me to question whatever a politician tells you. Especially if they’re telling you what you want to hear. Best advice I ever had concerning politics.
And yet you acknowledge Farage's Brexit party lead in the polls & that they have a hard brexit policy?!There’s no consensus anywhere for a hard brexit. Will of the people is bollocks talk.
But if they are elected - obviously they will hace the mandate to bring it about...if that is a problem for you maybe you should go join Mart in Germany?
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And yet you acknowledge Farage's Brexit party lead in the polls & that they have a hard brexit policy?!
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So they make their own destiny!
Leave the EU is the destiny the majority have decided they want...Parliament's job is to deliver that...whatever form it may take imo
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...but you appear to question only specific ones on one side of the argument!
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Huge buckets of slime will fall on Farage from the Eu biased media as he really is threatening the snout in the trough world order
I'm sure they would have...but out too much faith in opinion polls perhaps?
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Express readers still think Diana and Madeline McCann are alive.... no wonder he picked that one for his mouthpiece.How long has he had his snout in the trough? He is constantly spouting his crap on the BBC and LBC. They are obviously not EU biased. The Express is his personal paper for spouting lies and crap.
Change must realise they need a boost. If its Soubry Vs Farage like on QT, don't fancy their chances - particularly if she doesn't get her facts right.
There are restrictions yes. Just like there is in the UK and just about everywhere else.
Well I never! So the UK enter into the true spirit of an EU pillar, whilst the others give it lip-service? I'd like to say "that's a new one"...but I can't really can I?
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Well I am unsure which is more moronic myself tbh...you go ahead & show me where I have made any reference to VAT whatsoever. And I have not told you anything of the sort...it was a suggestion based upon an assumption you were making!I don’t know what’s funnier and more moronic. You telling me that the brexit Party will drop VAT below 4% or you telling me that if I don’t like it I can get out of your country.
Understanding the maths being your weakness. The majority of voters said let's go! Why can you not understand that?Which is considerably less than the percentage that voted brexit in the first place which confirms what I’ve said.. Maths obviously not your strong point.
Yes and no. Yes to be sure. But the UK is so easy. That is why it is the destination to aim for. Nobody wants to be the place for scroungers to aim for. But we allow much more than others.
If you can't afford to move somewhere you shouldn't go. But most do come here to work. I'm not moving to work. I'm moving for the lifestyle. I'm buying the house of our dreams for less than the price of a 2 up 2 down. And going where crime doesn't happen. I can't remember the last time we locked our house up. So had to go somewhere similar.
You can call it spin if you wish...the reality speaks for itselfWell, that’s one hell of a way to spin it, I suppose. Most countries have these sort of conditions and the UK has had the freedom too as well but has chosen not to. Most people are ignorant about it though and have no idea that the UK has always had these powers.
Well I am unsure which is more moronic myself tbh...you go ahead & show me where I have made any reference to VAT whatsoever. And I have not told you anything of the sort...it was a suggestion based upon an assumption you were making!
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Oh so I didn't refer to VAT then..?That’s what the post you replied to was about.
Understanding the maths being your weakness. The majority of voters said let's go! Why can you not understand that?
You seem to accept it when it is in opinion polls thst favour YOUR viewpoint
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Oh so I didn't refer to VAT then..?
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But the polls are suggesting the majority just want out. Hard/soft is irrelevant...just OUTThe majority of voter didn’t say hard brexit and Ferages lead in the opinion polls confirms just that. That’s not opinion, that’s fact.
You can call it spin if you wish...the reality speaks for itself
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You are such a twat - Brexit was referred to by YOU. I referred to BrexitIt was pretty pointless replying to the post if you didn’t want to talk about something else then wasn’t it.
But the polls are suggesting the majority just want out. Hard/soft is irrelevant...just OUT
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So you agree that they are pursuing a course against the outcome of the referendum then?Yes. Our governments have chosen not to enforce the rules to the latter. That’s the reality based on facts.
You are such a twat - Brexit was referred to by YOU. I referred to Brexit
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