The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (42 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

Astute

Well-Known Member
I have no interest in playing this game, it’s there in black and white
Playing this game? Yes it is there in black and white. You tried to make out that the G10 was the strongest 10 currencies and went as far as asking what currency was stronger. So I gave you China.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
Playing this game? Yes it is there in black and white. You tried to make out that the G10 was the strongest 10 currencies and went as far as asking what currency was stronger. So I gave you China.

Zzzz...ffs no I didn’t. You claimed the articles were lies and now have had to use your usual distraction techniques.
 

SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
The poorest don’t even go on holiday.

The biggest impact for them will have been the cost of living, such as food prices, which have undeniably increased since the devaluation of the pound.

That’s not even looking at other general goods that the country imports and are going to be impacted.
That's right, so maybe Tony & similar will forgo his holiday & find some worthy poorer families to give his hard earned cash to help through these difficult times instead?

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Grendel

Well-Known Member
The poorest don’t even go on holiday.

The biggest impact for them will have been the cost of living, such as food prices, which have undeniably increased since the devaluation of the pound.

That’s not even looking at other general goods that the country imports and are going to be impacted.

Not of course that the Eu are too bothered about high food costs are they?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
Yes SB. I asked you why you called them the biggest currencies
So what are the G 10 currencies? Not which are they. Why do you call them the biggest currencies?

Look at your list of what they are and tell me they are the biggest with honesty. You can't if you are being truthful. It is just a grouping.
And here was your reply.

So which currencies do you believe are bigger?
My post was at 11:34 and your reply was at 1156. Page 1093 if this helps.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
The food over here is much cheaper than the Uk and generally much, much better quality.
I didn't find it cheaper in Italy. But yes the quality is better.

Is it OK to mention that the EU keeps food prices artificially high if it worries you so much?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
Yes SB. I asked you why you called them the biggest currencies

And here was your reply.


My post was at 11:34 and your reply was at 1156. Page 1093 if this helps.

The original point and much bigger point was about the articles, ffs. Which you dismissed as lies.

You’ve done your usual trick of distracting away from the main point though.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
I didn't find it cheaper in Italy. But yes the quality is better.

Is it OK to mention that the EU keeps food prices artificially high if it worries you so much?

Food In supermarkets is around half the price and eating out is way cheaper if you avoid tourist restaurants.

Hahaha yeah blame the EU for rising costs in UK food too haha!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
Remain shouldn't be on a new vote though,It lost 3 years ago.
What cant people understand about that?
Shall we have a re-run of the vote in 1975 when we joined the common market?
FFs just leave and get on with it the world will still turn on 1st November!!

By that logic leave shouldn't have been on the referendum ballot as it lost when we voted to join. If Scotland got a second vote should independence be left off because it lost last time?

Things change. A lot of what was offered/promised to entice people to vote Leave has been proven to be untrue. The idea negotiating an exit deal would be easy has proven incorrect. I doubt most people didn't even consider the Irish border implications initially as it wasn't even mentioned over here.
 

Astute

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Food In supermarkets is around half the price and eating out is way cheaper if you avoid tourist restaurants.
Found beer and wine much cheaper. But not the food. But I don't go for the budget lines so couldn't comment on that. I enjoy my food so always go for quality. You can taste the difference. Good quality doesn't come cheap in Italy.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
Found beer and wine much cheaper. But not the food. But I don't go for the budget lines so couldn't comment on that. I enjoy my food so always go for quality. You can taste the difference. Good quality doesn't come cheap in Italy.

Compared to the UK, yes it does.

We don’t go for budget lines either and its much cheaper.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
The original point and much bigger point was about the articles, ffs. Which you dismissed as lies.

You’ve done your usual trick of distracting away from the main point though.
Because you made a comment about them being the biggest. And you even answered me when I questioned you on the matter asking me which was bigger.

Nothing wrong with admitting you are wrong for once. And as you said it is there in black and white. Too late to remove the post.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
Because you made a comment about them being the biggest. And you even answered me when I questioned you on the matter asking me which was bigger.

Nothing wrong with admitting you are wrong for once. And as you said it is there in black and white. Too late to remove the post.

Hahaha bloody hell. Still. It comment on the actual articles and their contents then?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
Compared to the UK, yes it does.

We don’t go for budget lines either and its much cheaper.
Like what as we are nipping over in a week or so. I have 6 more days of work then nearly 3 weeks with the family. And we have visitors. So travelling all over.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
So explain your comment on asking which currencies are bigger than the G10 then?

Zzzz... and you still named a currency which has been outperforming the pound.

As has already been pointed out to you they are chosen as they are the most heavily traded in the world
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
By that logic leave shouldn't have been on the referendum ballot as it lost when we voted to join. If Scotland got a second vote should independence be left off because it lost last time?

Things change. A lot of what was offered/promised to entice people to vote Leave has been proven to be untrue. The idea negotiating an exit deal would be easy has proven incorrect. I doubt most people didn't even consider the Irish border implications initially as it wasn't even mentioned over here.
A lot of what was promised/offered if we voted to stay in the common market was proven to be lies. And the government at the time knew it as they were hiding the truth from us.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
Zzzz... and you still named a currency which has been outperforming the pound.

As has already been pointed out to you they are chosen as they are the most heavily traded in the world
So you don't want to answer the question still. OK I understand. Same shit different day.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
Like what as we are nipping over in a week or so. I have 6 more days of work then nearly 3 weeks with the family. And we have visitors. So travelling all over.

It depends on the supermarket and weirdly it’s location. You’re better off going to the massive ones in shopping centers/industrial estates, weirdly
 

Grendel

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Food In supermarkets is around half the price and eating out is way cheaper if you avoid tourist restaurants.

Hahaha yeah blame the EU for rising costs in UK food too haha!

Yet the standard of living is worse as is their opinion as to how well the Eu serves them
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
Just for you SB. This is what the G10 is all about. It is nothing to do with what you are trying to make out.

Group of Ten
The Group of Ten (G10) refers to the group of countries that have agreed to participate in the General Arrangements to Borrow (GAB), a supplementary borrowing arrangement that can be invoked if the IMF’s resources are estimated to be below a member’s needs. The GAB was established in 1962, when the governments of eight IMF members—Belgium, Canada, France, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, and the United States—and the central banks of two others, Germany and Sweden, agreed to make resources available to the IMF for drawings by participants and, under certain circumstances, for drawings by nonparticipants. The G10 was strengthened in 1964 by the association of Switzerland, then a nonmember of the IMF, expanding its membership to 11, but the name of the G10 remained the same. Following its inception, the G10 broadened its engagement with the Fund, including issuing reports that culminated in the creation of the Special Drawing Right (SDR) in 1969. The G10 was also the forum for discussions that led to the December 1971 Smithsonian Agreement following the collapse of the Bretton Woods system. The following international organizations are official observers of the activities of the G10: the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the European Commission, the IMF, and the OECD.
 

Sick Boy

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Just for you SB. This is what the G10 is all about. It is nothing to do with what you are trying to make out.

Group of Ten
The Group of Ten (G10) refers to the group of countries that have agreed to participate in the General Arrangements to Borrow (GAB), a supplementary borrowing arrangement that can be invoked if the IMF’s resources are estimated to be below a member’s needs. The GAB was established in 1962, when the governments of eight IMF members—Belgium, Canada, France, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, and the United States—and the central banks of two others, Germany and Sweden, agreed to make resources available to the IMF for drawings by participants and, under certain circumstances, for drawings by nonparticipants. The G10 was strengthened in 1964 by the association of Switzerland, then a nonmember of the IMF, expanding its membership to 11, but the name of the G10 remained the same. Following its inception, the G10 broadened its engagement with the Fund, including issuing reports that culminated in the creation of the Special Drawing Right (SDR) in 1969. The G10 was also the forum for discussions that led to the December 1971 Smithsonian Agreement following the collapse of the Bretton Woods system. The following international organizations are official observers of the activities of the G10: the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the European Commission, the IMF, and the OECD.

So you’re just going to ignore the point of the articles?
 

Grendel

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Grendel

Well-Known Member
I’ll start - unemployment rates what is it in each country?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
I’d much rather live in Italy than the UK. Yet I’m not as obsessed with money and consumerism as you clearly are. The quality of life overall is much higher. If you want to delude yourself then go ahead
 

Grendel

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I’d much rather live in Italy than the UK. Yet I’m not as obsessed with money and consumerism as you clearly are. The quality of life overall is much higher. If you want to delude yourself then go ahead

So poverty is worse, unemployment worse, average wage worse, national debt worse but as you like it that’s it
 

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