Well I’m not saying that I’m saying the indicative votes were done too late when positions were entrenched and the mandate of the ref and been twisted.
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Well you can’t say people going into the election were not aware of the possibility and yet the Tory share of the vote was the highest for over 3 decades
Behave like the Tories. Remember Blair was Thatcher’s greatest invention. The fact the the Murdoch press switched political allegiance tells you everything you need to know.
There were a few good things in there - they had to in order to keep power for so long... but by the end they were indistinguishable.
What is Corbyn proposing in reality then?The evidence would appear that we go to a society where the government doesn’t subsidise low wages with welfare and where people don’t need to take on unhealthy hours to survive. Proposals in the latest large scale American study support wages at around $13/hour, or about £11/hour here. That isn’t really a ludicrous position and in reality Corbyn is proposing even lower than that
So all Tory governments are bad but Labour werr OK as they were like the Tories?Behave like the Tories. Remember Blair was Thatcher’s greatest invention. The fact the the Murdoch press switched political allegiance tells you everything you need to know.
There were a few good things in there - they had to in order to keep power for so long... but by the end they were indistinguishable.
Maybe. But how about what was said? Defend Corbyn. You say you will.
So all Tory governments are bad but Labour werr OK as they were like the Tories?
It is OK defending something as long as you can admit to the wrong. You are trying to blame everything on the Tories. Lack of investment and more. But....
In the last 22 years things have got worse. That is why a lot of people blame the EU. It is the period where the EU has managed to get a strong hold on Europe.
In this time Labour have been in power for 13 years, a coalition for 5 years and the Tories for 4 years. Even if you add the coalition to the Tory years you will find that Labour has been in power for a few years longer. The housing crisis grew under Labour. The lowest investment for a very long time. I could go on but you know the truth.
What is Corbyn proposing in reality then?
35 hours a week. £10 an hour. £350 a week.
£10 an hour is still not really comparable to skilled professionals. Where’s your problem?
The fact it will mean some businesses can’t afford it and will make them redundant
No evidence to back that up. More likely is a small raise in prices to offset the costs.
Why should the government subsidise low incomes? Out of interest-is Porky’s bridge affordable?
The fact it will mean some businesses can’t afford it and will make them redundant
Same argument used when the minimum wage was introduced, still waiting for the effects we were promised by the righties.
When I graduated, my first job was £3.56 an hour. The bloke who'd been working there for 14 years earned £3.62 an hour. Minimum wage came in, the company went bankrupt.I’m really struggling to think of anyone I know who will get a wage rise if minimum wage is increased to £10 an hour and I can’t. Even my nephew who’s 19 left school with minimal qualifications and works in a warehouse stacking boxes gets more than that. Places like Costa coffee will have to start paying employees more but given companies like this are very skilled at not paying taxes fuck em.
Same argument used when the minimum wage was introduced, still waiting for the effects we were promised by the righties.
I’m really struggling to think of anyone I know who will get a wage rise if minimum wage is increased to £10 an hour and I can’t. Even my nephew who’s 19 left school with minimal qualifications and works in a warehouse stacking boxes gets more than that. Places like Costa coffee will have to start paying employees more but given companies like this are very skilled at not paying taxes fuck em.
No it isn’t - the notion a small business can double a wage is laughable
So if you raise unskilled wages to that of skilled workers where do we go next? And also reduce the working week for more money?
There’s plenty of evidence - many low part jobs are part time in small businesses that survive on tight margins.
Shoos, cafes, small tourist outlets - that combined with his other brain dead idea of wiping out zero hours contracts will cause untold damage to the owners of these businesses and the people who work there. It’s cheap sound byte politics that get people like you excited and ready to put your silly T Shirt on of the racist thug with the silly beret from with zero consideration or care for the people it impacts
May constantly said we’d leave without a deal before the 2017 election
Misses the fact a general election is *not* single issue, either.And subsequently lost the Tory majority. Christ, if the people wanted no deal then they would have gained at that election.
G’s maths: £7.50 x 2 = £10
You’re right another £2.50 an hour will send every business to the wall
The fact it will mean some businesses can’t afford it and will make them redundant
But I thought you were a staunch capitalist? If a business can't survive paying it's expenses it should go out of business as the business model is flawed.
Or do you support the likes of the CAP and CFP which do very similar - keep inefficient businesses with products people don't want to buy going by buying the produce they can't sell via the market.
My sister was working at a company that was struggling, and the managing director from the Head Office turned up to explain why there were going to be further redundancies and no pay rises because it was unaffordable. He then got in his £100k+ Merc and was driven off by his chauffeur.
How many 16 year olds earn £10 an hour?
They are pushing Apprenticeships a lot atm.How many 16 year olds are working? Most don’t leave school now until 18.
But I thought you were a staunch capitalist? If a business can't survive paying it's expenses it should go out of business as the business model is flawed.
Or do you support the likes of the CAP and CFP which do very similar - keep inefficient businesses with products people don't want to buy going by buying the produce they can't sell via the market.
My sister was working at a company that was struggling, and the managing director from the Head Office turned up to explain why there were going to be further redundancies and no pay rises because it was unaffordable. He then got in his £100k+ Merc and was driven off by his chauffeur.
Not every business but some will clearly as it’s a significant park up and in some cases it’s over £6 an hour
Even those on £2.50 an hour it’s a whopping 25% increase on business co
I’m delighted you’ve bought into corbynomics.
I hope you don’t teach this rubbish at school
No it isn’t - the notion a small business can double a wage is laughable
Double? What do you think minimum wage is?
How many 16 year olds are working? Most don’t leave school now until 18.
Exactly I believe in private enterprise and non state intervention other than protections.
A business model is hardly flawed if it operates in its means and then the state imposes a 25% levy on its workforce
I doubt the people who work there will be over joyed either when Corbynomics throws them on the dole queue
Double? What do you think minimum wage is?
Isn’t the labour policy by 2020 to remove the youth cap so all workers get £10 an hour regardless of age?
Isn’t the labour policy by 2020 to remove the youth cap so all workers get £10 an hour regardless of age?
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