Clearly. Nothing else at play here after all, is there?
Grendel mate there is no more Democracy, the people who voted remain will stop at nothing to overturn the result...
You are advocating removing parliamentary democracy.
That is true. We should all consider the extreme possibilities that might arise.Leavers should think of this. What if there’s a general election and the next government is a Lib Dem minority government propped up by Plaid Cymru and the SNP and they choose to prorogue Parliament to cancel Brexit without parliaments approval? Today’s ruling stops that happening. Rather than bemoaning democracy is dead be grateful for it because the next government using Boris’ rule book has just been stopped from doing so.
The hypocrisy meter just exploded
That is true. We should all consider the extreme possibilities that might arise.
Like the next GE brings a Brexit/DUP/Tory Govt headed up by Farage himself...that'd go down well.
I suspect however that many many thousands will simply not bother voting ever again. Then you will get the unhealthy kind of democracy that will come back & bite you on the arse.
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The insults are because you start them, and then show yourself to do a disservice to amoebae.Exactly he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, just the good old insult because someone voted leave and not remain....a few remain voters on here have said the result should be respected however a certain few just can't accept it
Good old British democracy.or swamp it with peers if you want to
So all 17.4 million of us who actually won the majority don't deserve it, that makes sense doesn't it
So all 17.4 million of us who actually won the majority don't deserve it, that makes sense doesn't it
But would you then have similar arguments like now of people arguing that their representative MP hadn't ranked everything in the same order as the people would've?
Very blaźe attitude...It ISN'T their choice. If 17.4m decide not to vote because it is pointless - that is the absolute opposite of democracy. A small minority will elect a Govt to run the country.Well, that’s there choice. But at least now the standard has been set for whoever is next in government and the assurance that their policies will not be snowballed without scrutiny and be subject to the parliamentary democracy all sides apparently cherish (at least on the run up to the referendum anyway) is protected.
The question is who can we trust.
If we have another election now I don't know who I would vote for. I have voted Labour all my life. I normally ignore the bad and look at the good. I was dragged up on council estates in Coventry by a single parent. But now I am unsure what Labour stands for. Even the Labour party don't know what they stand for.
Tory? Wash your mouth out with soap.
Lib Dems? If they didn't get into bed with the Tories maybe. But now a no.
Reconsider Labour? Last time it was the Tories in disguise. Now there is nothing to disguise.
I give up. I hope there isn't another GE.
I’ve never opposed the Order Paper being with the government
Very blaźe attitude...It ISN'T their choice. If 17.4m decide not to vote because it is pointless - that is the absolute opposite of democracy. A small minority will elect a Govt to run the country.
1 man 1 vote...laughable
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Very blaźe attitude...It ISN'T their choice. If 17.4m decide not to vote because it is pointless - that is the absolute opposite of democracy. A small minority will elect a Govt to run the country.
1 man 1 vote...laughable
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Unless it's a referendum you mean?democracy includes the right to not vote and allow others to make your decision. Always has.
You see, I'm with you on tories and Lib Dems. Labour however I do know what they stand for. Ironically, I'm slightly worried they're leaning a little over-left on their recent policies, but I'd have to check a manifesto to see how they played out - the last one got me behind them.The question is who can we trust.
If we have another election now I don't know who I would vote for. I have voted Labour all my life. I normally ignore the bad and look at the good. I was dragged up on council estates in Coventry by a single parent. But now I am unsure what Labour stands for. Even the Labour party don't know what they stand for.
Tory? Wash your mouth out with soap.
Lib Dems? If they didn't get into bed with the Tories maybe. But now a no.
Reconsider Labour? Last time it was the Tories in disguise. Now there is nothing to disguise.
I give up. I hope there isn't another GE.
Every man & woman has a vote. In the referendum, a swathe of potential voters didn't care.It isn’t 1 man 1 vote. It’s First Past the Post.
Unless it's a referendum you mean?
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Yeah another referendum again and leave wins! What then, back to moaning??You see, I'm with you on tories and Lib Dems. Labour however I do know what they stand for. Ironically, I'm slightly worried they're leaning a little over-left on their recent policies, but I'd have to check a manifesto to see how they played out - the last one got me behind them.
On the question of trust however, it may be a low base, but we have a Prime Minister who has managed to get there despite lying, being sacked for lying, and discussing aiding and abetting somebody's desire to beat up a journalist! Now he's in charge, he shows no sign of being anything other than the man-child he's always appeared to be - the flagrant disregard of laws, rules, and general truth is startling really - he's unfit to be in office.
In that context, He's unelectable in normal times!
Anyway, referendum before election please. Then we can elect a government based on what they intend to do for the country, rather than see those policies sidetracked.
Every man & woman has a vote. In the referendum, a swathe of potential voters didn't care.
What I am on about is in a GE they DO care, but feel that no manifesto is honourable so there is no point whatsoever.
Stumbling into the same scenario that you were afraid of in the first place pretty well
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Good chat.Yeah another referendum again and leave wins! What then, back to moaning??
Yeah another referendum again and leave wins! What then, back to moaning??
Its a fair point, would another leave win finally make people accept a result?Good chat.
No deal is the last option, by them taking it off the table it weakens our hand in negotiations for a better dealhopefully then we enact whatever the public have decided. The entire issue is we voted to leave and not where to go.
Most Brexiters want to kick the can down the road with no deal, I’d rather get us resolved personally.
If you stop banging on with lazy soundbytes about moaning I might actually answer you.Its a fair point, would another leave win finally make people accept a result?
Every man & woman has a vote. In the referendum, a swathe of potential voters didn't care.
What I am on about is in a GE they DO care, but feel that no manifesto is honourable so there is no point whatsoever.
Stumbling into the same scenario that you were afraid of in the first place pretty well
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I'm making a valid pointIf you stop banging on with lazy soundbytes about moaning I might actually answer you.
In fact I have answered my position on that countless times, but it would involve you actually reading something.
No deal is the last option, by them taking it off the table it weakens our hand in negotiations for a better deal
I’m 46 years of age and I’m yet to see a manifesto of an elected government that has been honoured, at least not in full anyway. We’re not exactly stumbling over new ground here.
hopefully then we enact whatever the public have decided. The entire issue is we voted to leave and not where to go.
Most Brexiters want to kick the can down the road with no deal, I’d rather get us resolved personally.
Brexshit lolI'm making a valid point
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