I'm becoming increasingly concerned about how the government are handling Brexit. They seem to fold quickly on everything and everytime the likes of Davies speaks he seems to be doing his best to play down what can expect to get.
Not the attitude to be going in with and certainly not the picture that was being painted by the leave campaign.
Basically noone knows what Brexit is. 'Brexit means Brexit' is a hollow phrase and sums the government's position up. It is a bit of make it up as you go along. Try this..doesn't work...ok, let's try this.....doesn't work.... er ....
What specifically can we realistically ask for? What do we actually want? What benefits - apart from emotional phrases like "control of our borders" ..which we already have and could strengthen even in the EU ( e.g. the Germans didn't let Rumanians and Bulgarians into the workforce for 5 years after they joined the EU )? What economic benefits do we get by negotiating our own trade agreements? E.g. will we get a better deal than the EU with Canada or Japan? Why would these countries give us preferential treatment over the EU? There are loads of unanswered questions out there and there is no guarantee that this whole episode will leave us any better off. Up until now things have been getting worse.
It isn't getting worse. You seem far more akin with the prime ministers actual view on Europe than the leader of the opposition.
German industry warns UK not to expect help in Brexit talks
It appears that the 'experts' on here who claimed that German car manufacturers, French cheese producers etc would put pressure on, and give the UK whatever it wanted were wrong, what a surprise.
At least we have their best mate Trump to help make America stronger.
German industry warns UK not to expect help in Brexit talks
It appears that the 'experts' on here who claimed that German car manufacturers, French cheese producers etc would put pressure on, and give the UK whatever it wanted were wrong, what a surprise.
At least we have their best mate Trump to help make America stronger.
Source: The grubby little Guardian. The whingers reference manual. What a surprise.
You really will scrape the bottom of any filthy barrel to support your vehemently anti-British agenda won’t you.
Source: The grubby little Guardian. The whingers reference manual. What a surprise.
You really will scrape the bottom of any filthy barrel to support your vehemently anti-British agenda won’t you.
Germany's Brexit THREAT: Frankfurt WILL snatch UK's multi-billion euro clearing industryActually it's in the Independent as well... maybe not in the Mail or Express.
Strange isn't it only one country keeps making statements, I wonder who the rulers of Europe are
What a pathetic comment.Source: The grubby little Guardian. The whingers reference manual. What a surprise.
You really will scrape the bottom of any filthy barrel to support your vehemently anti-British agenda won’t you.
I have only thought things through and am certainly no expert...but these Business Organisations can say what they like publicly. If it is out of step with the best thing for their nation's politicians it matters not one jot what they say.German industry warns UK not to expect help in Brexit talks
It appears that the 'experts' on here who claimed that German car manufacturers, French cheese producers etc would put pressure on, and give the UK whatever it wanted were wrong, what a surprise.
At least we have their best mate Trump to help make America stronger.
I have only thought things through and am certainly no expert...but these Business Organisations can say what they like publicly. If it is out of step with the best thing for their nation's politicians it matters not one jot what they say.
On that car theme, a significant hike in prices for UK car sales from Germany will likely mean a decline in sales, subsequent loss of jobs & a threatened stability in their own nation.
I have gone on record several times saying that to the middle-income people of this country not much will change in the grand scheme of things. The higher earners & very poor may see some significant changes - but what changes remain to be seen
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I have only thought things through and am certainly no expert...but these Business Organisations can say what they like publicly. If it is out of step with the best thing for their nation's politicians it matters not one jot what they say.
On that car theme, a significant hike in prices for UK car sales from Germany will likely mean a decline in sales, subsequent loss of jobs & a threatened stability in their own nation.
I have gone on record several times saying that to the middle-income people of this country not much will change in the grand scheme of things. The higher earners & very poor may see some significant changes - but what changes remain to be seen
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Source: The grubby little Guardian. The whingers reference manual. What a surprise.
You really will scrape the bottom of any filthy barrel to support your vehemently anti-British agenda won’t you.
Strange isn't it only one country keeps making statements, I wonder who the rulers of Europe are
Its odd, to say the least, to vote leave on the basis we should put the UK first and then act surprised when other EU countries, or the EU as a whole, do the same.I cannot understand the shock and horror ( see Express readers comments ) about other countries - not just Germany - wanting to take over our profit making role in financial services.
Its odd, to say the least, to vote leave on the basis we should put the UK first and then act surprised when other EU countries, or the EU as a whole, do the same.
With every week that passes I am less confident we'll actually leave. May won't make it through the two years of negotiations. A tory leadership battle followed by a general election gives them the perfect excuse to go to the EU and ask for everything to be put on hold.It's hardly surprising though, is it? I'm surprised that no one has suggested we get the gun boats out yet and put it up Johnny Foreigner.
With every week that passes I am less confident we'll actually leave. May won't make it through the two years of negotiations. A tory leadership battle followed by a general election gives them the perfect excuse to go to the EU and ask for everything to be put on hold.
With every week that passes I am less confident we'll actually leave. May won't make it through the two years of negotiations. A tory leadership battle followed by a general election gives them the perfect excuse to go to the EU and ask for everything to be put on hold.
The German car industry has said all along that they will prioritise the integrity of the Single Market over appeasing the UK. Surprisingly enough, the world does revolve around us and believe it or not, but other countries also buy their cars.
IMO, middle earners will already be feeling the effects of the Brexit vote, I know I am. I dread to think how much worse it'll get once we leave.
The German car industry will prioritise its shareholders and its profits.
The German car industry will prioritise its shareholders and its profits.
At the end of the day the whole thing is now a game of 'chicken' - there have been public statements by various people or groups that, though we never hear about it publicly, they are reigned-in - or sometimes it can be the Merkel team telling these people to issue statements...that's the nature of politics.The German car industry has indicated that it will prioritise Poland as the country with growth potential in Europe. The EU have just signed new trade deals with Canada and Japan. Maybe there is more potential there. Pity the UK won't be involved if the present government continues down the hard Brexit road.
What about the parts industry in Britain? If Brexit goes bandy their vehicles will be stuck in Dover or Calais whilst waiting for burocratic customs clearance ( a massive amount of burocracy was done away with at borders by the single market - it is Britain that could be creating more burocracy ). People will look for suppliers within the EU for their "just in time" deliveries.
If anyone suffers, rich or poor, because of Brexit then it is all unnecessary and we know who to blame.
Anyone heard how Farage's knighthood is coming along? or the UK Independence Day for that matter?
I would like someone to be gathering information for a damages claim against the liars on the leave side.
Yes we are according to some 'experts' £17/month worse off due to it. This will mean we have to tighten our belts, & change our personal values...maybe community spirit will gain at the expense of BT/SkyTV/Nintendo/Amazon etc who probably pay little tax here in the UKThe German car industry has said all along that they will prioritise the integrity of the Single Market over appeasing the UK. Surprisingly enough, the world does revolve around us and believe it or not, but other countries also buy their cars.
IMO, middle earners will already be feeling the effects of the Brexit vote, I know I am. I dread to think how much worse it'll get once we leave.
The German car industry has said all along that they will prioritise the integrity of the Single Market over appeasing the UK. Surprisingly enough, the world does revolve around us and believe it or not, but other countries also buy their cars.
IMO, middle earners will already be feeling the effects of the Brexit vote, I know I am. I dread to think how much worse it'll get once we leave.
Exactly. They will build up alternative markets and supply chains to replace the U.K. If necessary...
If you believe that first paragraph, then you will believe anything. Sorry that's just laughable.
The German car industry will look after their profits and millions and millions of pounds. It's quite simple really.
They already have the most profitable market in the world in the U.K. Why throw that away? Well I've just answered it. They won't.
They will look after their sales and profits. Very very simple.
You're going to be in for a shock. Believe it or not, but there are plenty of other markets for them to tap into.
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