Interesting to see the fluctuating opinions, the only constant being those who dont give a fuck. They are probably the only sane ones amongst us!
But everyone was telling you and your heroes were saying it was nonsense.
Knew this would happen once the whole “oh all politicians are corrupt” bollocks started after the expenses scandal. All it does is give free reign to the actual arseholes because now you think that’s just what they do.
No, it’s not what politics is. Demand better.
You do know that the EU’s stance was to keep using it?
Is my quote wrong? Is that not indeed the case today? It might not be palatable, but its factual.
Do you think if the referendum was ran today the outcome would be any different?
it's a case of damned if you do damned if you dont. Something had to give in order to get brexit done by the deadline.
He made the deadline, delivered brexit as promised in his manifesto, and now he has to fix the fall out.
I'm not defending his actions, but I dont see how he could of done anything else in the timescale available.
Telling the truth would of been a disaster, (if the truth was, I dont have a clue how to solve NI)
My guess is, he will stroll of into retirement as the man who successfully delivered Brexit, and leave someone else to pick up the pieces.
Not good, but that's politics now I'm afraid.
Although I believe it's the best overall system of governance without doubt a downside to democracy is that to get elected you have to pander to what people want rather than what they need.
If kids had the chance to live with a parent who gave them fast food every night or one who gave them a balanced meal and made them eat their veg, their instinct would be fast food. They'd go for what they want, not what what they need and end up massively unhealthy.
But I agree we can and should be demanding much, much better. Most of those scandal hit in this government should've been made to resign or hounded out if they weren't. It's a disgrace. Profumo was only a minister and had to resign for an affair, now a serial philanderer in the top job is apparently 'not newsworthy'. Well, for me it gives a good indication of the trustworthiness, integrity and consideration to others of the person in the top office in the land and that makes it fucking newsworthy.
Do you have the source for that poll?
Because I saw one the other day with a similar result and it turned out they basically surveyed a load of white men aged 40+
“you have to pander to what people want as to what they need” Stalin couldn’t say it better himself
Yea but why are there alot of old white men mate ...whyIts statistics so source is only if you pay, did find another link on whatukthinks.org but it wouldn’t load.
TBF there are one or two old white men in the U.K...
TBF there are one or two old white men in the U.K...
Also leader of the now ironically named Conservative and Unionist Party.Paddy's problems are our problems, and certainly Johnson's. He's Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.*
*Well, for the moment at least. And that's not because I think Johnson is going anywhere (despite the huge number of reasons he should be) but because the UK is pretty much at the irreversible stage of splitting now.
Also leader of the now ironically named Conservative and Unionist Party.
Absolutely nothing to do with covid ?I see the Food and Drink Federation have estimated that Brexit has cost the industry £1.1B in lost trade already this year. No down side.
Don’t see how it can be. Covid hasn’t stopped the EU consuming food. Can’t really blame stockpiling either as we’re talking largely about perishable goods.Absolutely nothing to do with covid ?
Does this not include hospitality (resteraunts etc) at all ?Don’t see how it can be. Covid hasn’t stopped the EU consuming food. Can’t really blame stockpiling either as we’re talking largely about perishable goods.
No UK caught cod to be sold in British chippies apparently. All to be imported.Another Brexit kick in the teeth for fishermen.
Absolutely nothing to do with covid ?
Remember when they basically pinned the whole importance of Brexit on the fishing industry?
That went well.
Funny how it's all that Johnson and various Leavers used to bang on about for months and now they are completely silent on it.
It is literally impossible to be all down to brexit , when most of the country's hospitality has been completely shut for a few months .Barely.
Look at the graph in the top right. That's all on Brexit, not Covid.
Also exports to the EU dropped by 41% but exports to non-EU countries rose by 9%.
Quite staggering how Ireland stands out there, two or three other significant reductions but to nowhere near that value .Barely.
Look at the graph in the top right. That's all on Brexit, not Covid.
Also exports to the EU dropped by 41% but exports to non-EU countries rose by 9%.
It is literally impossible to be all down to brexit , when most of the country's hospitality has been completely shut for a few months .
Literally impossible , arguing otherwise would be hilarious
For reference on the graphs ..the last lockdown was announced on January 4th .
Which is in line with the steep drop , it also coincided with the end of the transition period...
But to suggest it's all brexit is a million miles from being the truth
Can you elaborate on this? Exports dropped sharply when Brexit kicked in and only to the EU. Hell of a coincidence if it’s not Brexit.
But why didn’t it drop by the same amount across of markets?
A further lockdown came into place on January 4th too .
It's not ALL brexit which is what PVA implied
It is literally impossible to be all down to brexit , when most of the country's hospitality has been completely shut for a few months .
Literally impossible , arguing otherwise would be hilarious
But we’re talking about the huge disparity between the drop in EU exports and the rest. Not the overall picture.
Personally I think it’ll bounce back as a lot of people stockpiled and are still getting used to the forms, but that’s still Brexit.
We’ll see where it is this time next year. The pandemic makes all these discussions almost impossible.
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