Grendel
Well-Known Member
That's like saying we are in a better position now than in the premier league as we may get more points.
Probably decades and decades corruption and tax avoidance. It still has higher growth forecasts compared to the UK though.
IMO it was never going to be possible within a couple of years. There should actually have been a plan if leave vote was to win. Article 50 should have been triggered in a couple of years and an actual concrete plan put in place. I'm sure you agree that the current government is a shambles and I am genuinely worried that they will be defining the country's future in the long-term.
I have held Irish citizenship since birth and still plan to get out of the country within the next year. I am genuinely worried about leaving my parents here though (both 65) and the prospect of the health service being privatised.
That's odd - you keep saying the Tories will be whitewashed at the next election.
So Corbyn will privatise the NHS - wow
I'm saying some posters on here like to have their cake and eat it. Bad news comes out and it's brexit fault and good news comes out and it's we haven't left the EU yet. I can't keep up to be honest.
Totally.
It's like some of the remainers (can be seen on here) that celebrate when something goes wrong with Brexit, and in turn are therefore happy when the country goes south. However, when called out they just say 'It's only because I care'.
It's totally pathetic.
TM'S vision for Brexit it very poor, but it's a case of any excuse or explanation for the biggest and most embarrassing losers in UK history.
I haven't seen any poster on here celebrate, the only thing is going to have a long-term negative effect on the country. Brexiteers need to stop playing the blame game and tell us how they are going to make a success of the whole thing rather than carrying on with insults.
How do you know that we will be out?It is only being suggested that there is a transitional phase. Long term the UK will still be outside of the Single Market. If everything we were told was true, then I'm not sure what you're so worried about?
Insults?I haven't seen any poster on here celebrate, the only thing is going to have a long-term negative effect on the country. Brexiteers need to stop playing the blame game and tell us how they are going to make a success of the whole thing rather than carrying on with insults.
What I really love is people that know whay would happen if we stay or leave. Both are dodgy.
agree with this. A lot of mixed indicators both politically and economically, it really is hard to call which way this will pan out.
I actually thought what May said in Florence was quite sensible in the circumstances though she seems to be under fire from both sides - that's politics I suppose!
I won't have that!An organisation that the British shaped? If you think that it can be undone within a couple of years you're even more deluded that I thought. After your predictions of the end of Labour, I'm not sure how mic credibility you have left.
Politics of fear.Yes we are. It's time the Brexiteers took ownership of the mess and stop trying to look for others to blame.
I read this morning the transitional deal was meant to be 5 years and Boris article put massive pressure on and got it reduced to this 2 year that was announced Friday.
One thing I think we can all agree on and I hold the firm opinion that TM is massively incompetent and has changed her mind more times than the wind in this last year to EU to the budget to the general election. She is a fully paid up member of the political class and she will go with the majority to fit in. She won't last too much longer in my opinion.
Christ, I'd vote for May if the deal meant Johnson and Farage left politics.Johnson has also changed his mind plenty of times and is even more incompetent than May.
Quitting the EU won't solve our problems, says Boris Johnson
Johnson has also changed his mind plenty of times and is even more incompetent than May.
Quitting the EU won't solve our problems, says Boris Johnson
Christ, I'd vote for May if the deal meant Johnson and Farage left politics.
With a bit of luck she won't be there for much longer. You won't get a chance to vote for her hopefully.
So more than half of the UK is right wing?Politics of fear.
Typical of the right
Christ, I'd vote for May if the deal meant Johnson and Farage left politics.
Politics of fear.
Typical of the right
And I wouldn't as I am a right wing racist?Christ, I'd vote for May if the deal meant Johnson and Farage left politics.
I haven't seen any poster on here celebrate, the only thing is going to have a long-term negative effect on the country. Brexiteers need to stop playing the blame game and tell us how they are going to make a success of the whole thing rather than carrying on with insults.
Can you please explain this?
No because they backed the wrong horse.it's quite clear, that like the tories, Brexit has the potential to split the party and I think Corbyn is going to have a job stopping this spilling over.
The only party who seems to have a united front on the Brexit issue is the Lib dems - I wonder if they can take advantage?
it's quite clear, that like the tories, Brexit has the potential to split the party and I think Corbyn is going to have a job stopping this spilling over.
The only party who seems to have a united front on the Brexit issue is the Lib dems - I wonder if they can take advantage?
The Lib Dems lost every bit of credibility they had when they jumped into bed with the Tories. My wife always voted for them. But never again.it's quite clear, that like the tories, Brexit has the potential to split the party and I think Corbyn is going to have a job stopping this spilling over.
The only party who seems to have a united front on the Brexit issue is the Lib dems - I wonder if they can take advantage?
The Lib Dems lost every bit of credibility they had when they jumped into bed with the Tories. My wife always voted for them. But never again.
They are like the SDP in Germany. They might never recover from getting into bed with Merkel.
The Lib Dems lost every bit of credibility they had when they jumped into bed with the Tories. My wife always voted for them. But never again.
They are like the SDP in Germany. They might never recover from getting into bed with Merkel.
The candidate was the wrong one which didn't help, but you are right about the SPD. They have said that they will go into the opposition- although they have not technically been voted out of government as a coalition partner.
I wonder why
Just like the Lib Dems did here. They went into something that their voters didn't want.Because they lost their identity. Merkel wants them to think it over. The alternative for Merkel is a coalition with the Liberals and the greens.
Just like the Lib Dems did here. They went into something that their voters didn't want.
Merkel has a tough time going forward. Just like the Tories had here. There will be a lot of unhappy people whoever joins her.....if they do.
So the concessions the Tories gave were not good but it is OK for Merkel to have to give concessions away and need two other parties to join her?Why? The FDP were with the CDU in the past. The greens would love to be there - and would want some good concessions. Main thing is that the GroKo will end and to fight the AfD.
Can you please explain this?
So the concessions the Tories gave were not good but it is OK for Merkel to have to give concessions away and need two other parties to join her?
Something has to change with the EU or the racist vote will keep getting bigger.
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