We don’t have to. Doesn’t mean we won’t as part of a free trade agreement. Will we be able to make a free trade agreement with India without relaxing control of our border with India beyond what it is currently as an EU member state? Who knows, negotiations haven’t taken place yet but that is certainly what India wants. What happens if India won’t budge on this and we have to revert back to WTO rules? The EU will be on stronger trading terms with India than the UK and that could seriously damage the export market making our goods more expensive in India than EU goods and also mean that duty will be paid on all goods coming from India increasing prices to business and the consumer. It won’t just be the EU either, they also have a GSP arrangement with the USA for instance, not sure if that’s free trade or heavily reduced duty but the points the same.
I try and even it out with the number of times Juncker is mentioned on here. And we were on about gravytrainers, so it does have revelance.
You can see why I mentioned that I am not petty.
So you agree juncker is a gravy trainer yes?
Basically everyone knows that if we don't leave on amicable terms with the EU we're up Shit Creek without a paddle and they will use the situation to their advantage.
We let in nearly half the total from non eu last year. Do you see a difference between a house occupied by 4 Pakistanis as opposed to one occupied by 4 Poles? If we let in the same amount of EU and non EU, do you see a difference? Control apperently doesn't make a big difference to quantity. It could, but it doesn't.
Are you for real? you have zero interest in the uk just a slavish and deluded obsession with the EU
I think he is handsomely rewarded for what he does. Yes, he is a gravytrainer, but he does at least attend the meetings.
I have a big interest in the UK. My family are still there and I am a British Citizen. I am up against delusion, fact twisting and hate of something which some people don't even understand on here, so it might seen as if I'm obsessed when I try and point out facts and other viewpoints. But, you can have your opinion, it is often enough wrong anyway.
It will do. You're right on eu was more than eu but the big difference is control. You will find that people from non eu countries to come here like my good sri lanken friend studying here tells me.
He has to pass hard English language exams. Have medical insurance cover and pay for his 4 year uni degree in full (around 70k)
He also agreed he finds it unfair that a Romania can do everything he is doing but without all of the above. I think that's a fair comment. Don't you?
That's the point make an immigration system that is fair to everyone and doesn't deter people from further afield. All it shows is how the EU is protectionist again.
I see a difference between people having a home and not having a home. It crosses across all nationalities and ages.We let in nearly half the total from non eu last year. Do you see a difference between a house occupied by 4 Pakistanis as opposed to one occupied by 4 Poles? If we let in the same amount of EU and non EU, do you see a difference? Control apperently doesn't make a big difference to quantity. It could, but it doesn't.
You haven't quoted any facts - just Euro spin and drivel
I see a difference between people having a home and not having a home. It crosses across all nationalities and ages.
Could the Romanian study in Sri Lanka? The point is that the Romanian is an EU citizen, the same as you or I and shares the same rights with us. You could study in Romania if you wanted to.
So the UK would have to open borders to everyone that lives in India but the EU wouldn't?We don’t have to. Doesn’t mean we won’t as part of a free trade agreement. Will we be able to make a free trade agreement with India without relaxing control of our border with India beyond what it is currently as an EU member state? Who knows, negotiations haven’t taken place yet but that is certainly what India wants. What happens if India won’t budge on this and we have to revert back to WTO rules? The EU will be on stronger trading terms with India than the UK and that could seriously damage the export market making our goods more expensive in India than EU goods and also mean that duty will be paid on all goods coming from India increasing prices to business and the consumer. It won’t just be the EU either, they also have a GSP arrangement with the USA for instance, not sure if that’s free trade or heavily reduced duty but the points the same.
Juncker has a big say in everything. Farage is irrelevant. Or at least I thought that the racist vote is irrelevant to you.I try and even it out with the number of times Juncker is mentioned on here. And we were on about gravytrainers, so it does have revelance.
I'm guessing the Romanian could but it would be bloody difficult but he can come to the U.K. No questions asked. In the U.K. We have world recognized degrees and qualifications also. Better living standards etc.
That's again my point why would I want to go to Romania but I can certainly see why he or she would want to come here.
Many guess so. Most admit that we don't know. But they are not 100% pro EU like yourself.Basically everyone knows that if we don't leave on amicable terms with the EU we're up Shit Creek without a paddle and they will use the situation to their advantage.
If it is so good why are you in Germany?You might not want to go to Romania, but you could. That's the point. There may be good reasons to go to Romania now, or in the future. It is a massive country with various different climates. Mountains, the sea, history, countryside, nature... loads of potential.
Juncker has a big say in everything. Farage is irrelevant. Or at least I thought that the racist vote is irrelevant to you.
You have said a lot of nothings considering you say you won't get involved in bollocks.I have loads of times and posted links. I'm not getting involved in this bollocks because you have run out of steam and are on a side show deflection trip.
You might not want to go to Romania, but you could. That's the point. There may be good reasons to go to Romania now, or in the future. It is a massive country with various different climates. Mountains, the sea, history, countryside, nature... loads of potential.
If it is so good why are you in Germany?
So the only irrelevance in anything is the Nazi/racist vote in Germany that was an eighth of the voters.Farage was obsessed with the EU and getting out of it. He was shouting from the rooftops and still turns up with right wing clowns like Bannon and Moor in Alabama and the AfD in Berlin, so as propaganda mouthpiece who has some influence on public opinion, he is relevant.
Not even Romanians want to live in Romania.I cannot be everywhere and I am over 60, so it is too late to start again in another country. But, I have been on holiday there a few times and have driven from the Black Sea through the whole country to Hungary and on to Berlin a couple of times. A mate of mine has a hotel on the Black Sea and I have often visted him there. Great times.
It also has massive corruption well known and massive poverty. I don't know about health and education but I bet they are not our standards. I don't just want to go to look at the sea in Romania. May as well go skeggy if I want sea.
Yes I accept your point is I can go to Romania but how many Eastern Europeans are in the U.K. And vice verse. Massive massive difference. Why?
I'm not against anyone coming here but again the major point is control it and don't discriminate others from New Zealand say. It's not unreasonable to ask they have medical insurance and money and no criminal record surely?
Not even Romanians want to live in Romania.
You might not want to go to Romania, but you could. That's the point. There may be good reasons to go to Romania now, or in the future. It is a massive country with various different climates. Mountains, the sea, history, countryside, nature... loads of potential.
So the only irrelevance in anything is the Nazi/racist vote in Germany that was an eighth of the voters.
413,000 from Romania and Bulgaria disagree they prefer the uk
So the UK would have to open borders to everyone that lives in India but the EU wouldn't?
Yes. No doubt doing crap jobs that you wouldn't dream of doing. And, yes there are some scum amonst them. Usually the Roma and Sinti. The Romanians are quite pleased they've gone. I don't understand how they get away with their life style and why no one seems to be able to send them back. All I can say, is that the Romanians that I have had dealings with have been great.
An 80% increase in two years
Interesting. Are they all working? What do you think is happening?
So nothing to do with the Irish at all then?The problems in Ireland have all been created by Britain, nothing to do with the EU.
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