Sick Boy
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Fuck me. What has dodgy American food got to do with it?
Believe me, the majority of the Italians I know in the UK would much rather be back in Italy. A lot of them i know over there would never even consider coming here either. There is also a culture of passing down accommodation within families which seems to work well.
He's claiming the eu food standards are not applied. Given that a CWF study found the Netherlands to be one of the 5 worst countries for animal cruelty in terms of food standards that's pretty funny.
He's claiming the eu food standards are not applied. Given that a CWF study found the Netherlands to be one of the 5 worst countries for animal cruelty in terms of food standards that's pretty funny.
The people living next to me can't believe their luck.
The people living next to me can't believe their luck.
Jesus. I don’t know whether I’d like to live next to you...;-)
Yet they don't need somewhere to live when they get here?The millions who have come to the UK are the young and poor who want to better themselves. The rest are getting by at home with their families. They may well prefer that to the UK.
A lot of Italians have big families. How many families end up in each house?Believe me, the majority of the Italians I know in the UK would much rather be back in Italy. A lot of them i know over there would never even consider coming here either. There is also a culture of passing down accommodation within families which seems to work well.
Lack of affordable housing?Italy has far bigger internal problems that are of its own doing and mindset.
Root Causes
- Drug and alcohol addiction
- domestic violence
-mental health issues
- sexual abuse
-child abuse
- lack of affordable accommodation
A lot of Italians have big families. How many families end up in each house?
And it doesn't pay them a wage either.
Was he talking of cruelty or food standards? Not ethical standards, but e.g. use of hormones.
Lack of affordable housing?
Thought you said they passed their houses on so never had that problem.
No he was talking about price protectionism
And a lack of affordable housing? Make your mind up.Do they? The Italian birth rate (for natives) is historically low. I think it's a stereotype.
What are you on about? How many families in each house? One?
This is changing with equity release.I am talking about the UK.
And a lack of affordable housing? Make your mind up.
Doesn't seem that way to me.Believe me, the majority of the Italians I know in the UK would much rather be back in Italy. A lot of them i know over there would never even consider coming here either. There is also a culture of passing down accommodation within families which seems to work well.
No I wasn't.
This is changing with equity release.
Is it affordable housing in Italy or the UK?Italy has far bigger internal problems that are of its own doing and mindset.
Root Causes
- Drug and alcohol addiction
- domestic violence
-mental health issues
- sexual abuse
-child abuse
- lack of affordable accommodation
Actually yes you were. You kept referring to cheap American food - you and Hawe Hawe spent ages on the thread talking about sub standard chlorine injected chicken.
A product deemed edible for human consumption by the eu food standards agency. It's a cheap import and that's why it's rejected.
Is it affordable housing in Italy or the UK?
Fair enough if you would like to see animal welfare standards reduced to the point where chicken is bathed in chlorine and we are eating hormone injected beef. For an animal lover I would have thought you would be appalled.
And hormone beef?
I wouldn't touch any of that rubbish. Would you be happy for our farmers to replicate those sort of standards to compete?
It's Groundhog Day
Must I start posting rather unpleasant images of hormone injected horse and cattle meat supplied by many Southern Europe and Benelux states.
I won't eat it but it's not rejected for any concern about animal welfare (Spain and Italy I refuse to go to on holiday as I deplore societies that treat animals with such barbarism) but because it's cheap and the eu need to protect its own industry.
Yet they don't need somewhere to live when they get here?
It's Groundhog Day
Must I start posting rather unpleasant images of hormone injected horse and cattle meat supplied by many Southern Europe and Benelux states.
I won't eat it but it's not rejected for any concern about animal welfare (Spain and Italy I refuse to go to on holiday as I deplore societies that treat animals with such barbarism) but because it's cheap and the eu need to protect its own industry.
We are still in the EU. Do you know what our representatives have said or done on these matters?
That question makes no sense.
Don't we have 28....soon to be 27 countries that have to agree on any change?Don’t we have anyone on some sort of commission? Who regulates live stock in the EU? We had Farage on the Fisheries Commission. He hardly ever went, but he was our representative there.
Again they have a solution that can has worked through via a form of negotiation.
The key point of the quote is twofold. The acknowledgement that a bespoke arrangement will need to be found and that the scare story of a "hard border" is exactly that. It's not ever going to be barbed wire and long queues with armed officer which is the image deliberately being conjured up.
Like it or not in the end people will be allowed movement through and we will not - as the UDP have stated - be in the customs union. The Eu and it's supporters really must be getting desperate if this is the kind of scare stories that are being used to try and make a case for remain.
Norway aren't in the customs union. Switzerland are not either. The EFTA is not the customs union. Switzerland as an example have an entirely independent free trade arrangement with china.
The UK is already adapted to this. So what is the problem if talks end up going this way?From the link you provided “To keep up the flow of goods and enjoy the benefits of low or zero tariffs when companies trade, Norway has committed to harmonise its commercial rules with those of the EU“ a custom union in all but name. It also means that that EU policy shapes Norway’s trade with other countries outside of the EU. For instance if the Norway wants a favourable trade deal with the USA and the USA insists that Norway must take US poultry and beef products for that deal to happen Norway can’t except that deal under it’s current arrangement with the EU.
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