Grendel
Well-Known Member
It’s based on the fact that you said voters not members. Interesting Martcov liked your post.
It’s based on the fact that you said voters not members. Interesting Martcov liked your post.
It’s based on the fact that you said voters not members. Interesting Martcov liked your post.
Awaiting your answer to Sick Boy's question...
YouGov get most elections wrong. Now you expect us to believe this? It all depends on where they ask their questions. And then it depends on thise being truthful.It’s based on the fact that you said voters not members. Interesting Martcov liked your post.
With respect it was sick boy who actually stated more labour voters voted to remain and then provided a link with an article on members.
Perhaps first he’d like to withdraw his statement and apologise and you can explain why you blindly liked something that was wrong
Also it took him several hours to respond - with a very lame side swerve - and then you claim I am refusing to answer a question within minutes of it being posted.
Wishful thinking eh?I don’t know where Sick Boy is or what he is doing, but you are „on air“ now. I think it is both members and voters that voted remain. I also think that the division in the Tory cabinet is helping labour and exit Brexit. The more the leavers like BoJo, Gove and Davis make txts of themselves, and that coupled with the right wing antics of the worm Farage, the more this is looking like the working class has been conned. They thought they were sticking two fingers up at the elite. The elite is making a power grab whilst Brexit is going nowhere near like many leavers thought.
Labour, LibDems and Exit Brexit MPs may yet come together to put their foot on the brake.
With respect it was sick boy who actually stated more labour voters voted to remain and then provided a link with an article on members.
Perhaps first he’d like to withdraw his statement and apologise and you can explain why you blindly liked something that was wrong
Also it took him several hours to respond - with a very lame side swerve - and then you claim I am refusing to answer a question within minutes of it being posted.
Wishful thinking eh?
Every day some clown says something stupid. One day it is Davis, then BoJo, then Gove and then Farage weighs in praising the Austrian extreme right Party grounded by ( amongst others ) the Nazi Agriculture minister, if he‘s not too busy backing a paedophile together with the likes of Bannon and Palin in the USA, or speaking for a party led by the granddaughter of Hitler‘s finance minister ... you cannot make this up... then there are the Panama papers, the paradise papers....
Brexit associated with far right ambitions...
Now May won’t guarantee the 48 maximum working week... how long before guaranteed paid holidays get questioned ? What about the so called gig economy doing away with these things with fake self employment?
Sooner or later the penny will drop...
YouGov get most elections wrong. Now you expect us to believe this? It all depends on where they ask their questions. And then it depends on thise being truthful.
I have been at work. Again, what's the basis of your claim?
YouGov | Why people voted Labour or Conservative at the 2017 general election
I'm not sure what I have to apologise for. Still waiting for your opinion of the Snoopers Charter as well, BTW.
Are you also against the Internet and social media? Both are much more intrusive than ID cards.
You’ve done it again. You made a statement that most labour voters voted remain and again provide a link to something that dies t support the comment you made.
It’s your claim not mine. Again Martcov likes a claim with no basis in fact.
Let’s start at the beginning.
What do you class as a labour voter?
Haha I think you'll be waiting a while for that.
With some it will never drop, but how can anyone not see what is going on? The same in the USA where they will pass a tax bill which increases the national debt in order to help businesses and the rich..
I still think that if things start going bandy here there will be a backlash..
No I haven't. I've posted a link to motivations for voting for either party and it was mostly Cons voters that cited Brexit as a reason for voting.
Not sure what point you're trying to make.
Nice to see you dodge another question that's been asked several times of you as well.
YouGov | How Britain VotedWhat has motivation to do with anything? Primary motivation is subjective and has no actual relevance to the choice on referendum.
My point is you said 65% if labour voters voted remain. It’s wrong and Martcov liked it.
You were wrong weren’t you?
YouGov | How Britain Voted
I'd rather rely on YouGov that your hunches, thanks.
The vote on Britain's membership of the European Union cut across party lines, with significant division within Britain's main political parties. Conservatives voted to Leave, 61% to 39%. Labour voters (65%) and Liberal Democrats (68%) largely voted for Remain but significant minorities went for Leave. Only UKIP, where 95% voted for Leave, and the Greens, where 80% voted for Remain, avoided significant internal divisions on the vote.
Still waiting for your reply about the Snoopers Charter and the Internet. Do you think ID cards are more invasive than these?
Sadly we are more likely to see scapegoats blamed instead.
The other curious thing Sick Boy is that it’s you who claims to be the fair minded liberal. So my views on CCTV cameras are hardly relevant. What is relevant is your claimed no opinion on ID cards. These are considered by Liberty to be an abomination and a move to nazism and state control over an individuals rights,
Your indifference shows actually you are far far right of centre than you claim
Genuinely don’t you understand the difference between members and voters?
Hahaha yeah, whatever. I asked you about the Snoopers Charter and the internet, which you bizarrely chose to ignore, both of which intrude on the privacy of the individual a lot more than ID cards
The YouGov article is discussing voters (65%).
Sigh. It’s an article that was lauded in the Gaurdian. It’s members as no poll was taken regarding views of actual voters when leaving the ballot box of any significance.
Over 70% of voters in labour constituencies (I.e labour elected MP’s) voted to leave which makes your correlation impossible.
The other curious thing Sick Boy is that it’s you who claims to be the fair minded liberal. So my views on CCTV cameras are hardly relevant. What is relevant is your claimed no opinion on ID cards. These are considered by Liberty to be an abomination and a move to nazism and state control over an individuals rights,
Your indifference shows actually you are far far right of centre than you claim
Dodging questions?No I haven't. I've posted a link to motivations for voting for either party and it was mostly Cons voters that cited Brexit as a reason for voting.
Not sure what point you're trying to make.
Nice to see you dodge another question that's been asked several times of you as well.
In all Labour held constituencies 70% of Labour voters voted leave? On average? All constituencies that are labour voted 70% leave? The UK average was 52% of voters of all parties. How was this calculated then?
Not according to Liberty - do you agree with their views on ID cards?
I do.
How about coming out with something worthwhile for once. Like showing the last time YouGov got an election right. Yet you call their latest numbers as proof.Hahaha it's priceless, isn't it. Astute seems to think it has legs though so it must be right.
Which is why you won't find me on Farcebook.You clearly underestimate just how much personal data the likes of Facebook collect on you.
How about coming out with something worthwhile for once. Like showing the last time YouGov got an election right. Yet you call their latest numbers as proof.
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