Yet all is supposedly well in the EU.
But mass immigration is damaging all harmony in the EU. Something has to change. Political parties that can be seen as racist are coming from nowhere to be the No1 or No2 biggest party throughout the EU. Mart should know this. It has even happened in Germany.
I can see it ending up very badly if it continues.
But not in the millions like is allowed by the EU.Illegal migration will continue regardless.
I didn't watch any news. If you look back on this thread you will see that I have mentioned it several times before.
There are both good and bad things about being in the EU. But we are only supposed to mention the good and fudge over the bad.
I talk about the good and the bad. That is what you are suppised to do in a debate. But in here nearly all those that are on the side of remain make it look like it is a guaranteed disaster. I have splinters on my arse. But they are falling out as I am made to look a brexiteer by pulling up one sided posts constantly.I wasn't talking bout you but anyway. Similarly I suppose we are to mention the bad and fudge over the good?
So we should put it in writing when the EU hasn't done the same about Brits living in the EU countries? It needs to be done at the same time to make sure it is the same deal for all. And it is the EU that decides what is spoken about and when. But you already know all that.
You are starting to sound very anti British.
And you want a vote in a country that you left decades ago?
Yet all is supposedly well in the EU.
But mass immigration is damaging all harmony in the EU. Something has to change. Political parties that can be seen as racist are coming from nowhere to be the No1 or No2 biggest party throughout the EU. Mart should know this. It has even happened in Germany.
I can see it ending up very badly if it continues.
I talk about the good and the bad. That is what you are suppised to do in a debate. But in here nearly all those that are on the side of remain make it look like it is a guaranteed disaster. I have splinters on my arse. But they are falling out as I am made to look a brexiteer by pulling up one sided posts constantly.
If leaving was a certainty on being good or bad one side would have a healthy lead.
The EU needs to change. And change quickly. But it is run by dinosaurs who have a plan and are unwilling to deviate from it. The plan isn't working. Every country in the EU has problems caused by their plans. Even those who benefit the most from being in the EU have major problems caused by their plans. And on the plus side of getting out of the EU for me is to get away from this.
No you said Britain only were wrong and now make excuses. Only the Netherlands? Are you sure?
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That is an article about Muslim immigration and not free movement of EU citizens, which these countries' own citizens benefit from.
Shame there wasn't a way to tax just those who voted leave, so they end up paying the £40b divorce bill. I voted to remain so why should I pay towards it.
Would be interesting to see of those who voted to leave because of the billions we pay the EU were aware we would have to pay billions anyway. I guess they all knew that and thought it a price worth paying.
Oh yes they benefit alright - it’s a one way flow isn’t it?
As I voted to leave and never had a say about political union in the first place can I and all other leavers get a pay out for the last 30 years and the remainders pick up the tab?
no. You had 40 years to vote against the governments which ratified all EU laws. Obviously you were in a minority, but you at least had a vote. Having a vote doesn't mean the government has to do what you say. The difference being that you had a vote on leaving the EU and losing certain rights. I didn't.
As I voted to leave and never had a say about political union in the first place can I and all other leavers get a pay out for the last 30 years and the remainders pick up the tab?
When you voted leave you knew there would be a £40bn bill that needed to be paid off? You're happy about that? It's worth the cost?
Of course it’s 2 years of payments which over a lifetime is nothing
If I’m honest I thought it would be much higher.
Great, then you and your fellow leavers should pay it. After all, if it's "nothing" then the 17.4M of you won't mind at all. Worth it for your "sovereignty".
Great, then you and your fellow leavers should pay it. After all, if it's "nothing" then the 17.4M of you won't mind at all. Worth it for your "sovereignty".
I still think it won't happen for the very reason that it'll be impossible to get an agreement.Brexit ain’t happening anyway. Jacob Rees-Mogg has said that the deal won’t get accepted over fishing rights after Brexit so that’s neither the brexiteers or the remoaners backing it through Parliament so we might as well call the whole thing of and chalk it up to experience.
Brexit ain’t happening anyway. Jacob Rees-Mogg has said that the deal won’t get accepted over fishing rights after Brexit so that’s neither the brexiteers or the remoaners backing it through Parliament so we might as well call the whole thing of and chalk it up to experience.
Rees Mogg wants out ASAP so his dodgy investment fund can't fall under the jurisdiction of the new EU tax avoidance laws coming in next May. He couldn't care one jot about UK fishermen. Man is shameless. How he can call himself a Christian beggars belief.
It is an article on two countries of the EU that are refusing the free movement of people more like.That is an article about Muslim immigration and not free movement of EU citizens, which these countries' own citizens benefit from.
In what way is it dodgy?
it's got money in a black listed bank for starters.
Far-right AfD now the second most popular party in Germany: pollStop exagerating the rise of fascism and start critising it then. That would give you a more balanced appearance, but you tend to laud up the success of right wing shit. As does Grendel.
No, it isn't a guaranteed disaster to leave the EU, but I cannot see the benefits ( don't come with the old sound bites of "sovereignty, Drunker, undemocratic, elite etc. ). They have been shown to be bullshit.
Is it illegal?
That is an article about Muslim immigration and not free movement of EU citizens, which these countries' own citizens benefit from.
That money is 3 years of payments to the EU. So is it a massive amount or not?Shame there wasn't a way to tax just those who voted leave, so they end up paying the £40b divorce bill. I voted to remain so why should I pay towards it.
Would be interesting to see of those who voted to leave because of the billions we pay the EU were aware we would have to pay billions anyway. I guess they all knew that and thought it a price worth paying.
Far-right AfD now the second most popular party in Germany: poll
Exaggerating the rise of fascism?
I wish I was wrong. If I am would you like to name all the EU countries where racist parties are not getting a lot more votes than before? Not talking about it doesn't make the problem go away.
I am very worried about the future with the way things are going.
Let’s not get too hasty. Think I’d rather see a hard brexit than Blair back in powerI still think it won't happen for the very reason that it'll be impossible to get an agreement.
Tell you what, if Blair hadn't destroyed his reputation, the stage would be set for a comeback whenever this government falls.
Shame there wasn't a way to tax just those who voted leave, so they end up paying the £40b divorce bill. I voted to remain so why should I pay towards it.
Would be interesting to see of those who voted to leave because of the billions we pay the EU were aware we would have to pay billions anyway. I guess they all knew that and thought it a price worth paying.
Britain is getting less. The BNP is a fringe party and UKIP extinct. The fact martcov believes one in 6 of the voters voted for black shirts in a country that’s very uncomfortable with its past is again comedy gold from the EU spin master.
Isn't it a bit late for that really?The CA stuff that's coming out is worrying but hardly surprising, I work in the digital industry and can't believe people haven't wised up and deleted their FB accounts yet.
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