The will of The people implies a huge majority and a very popular decision. 52% for an unpopular decision for around half the population is not the will of the people.
The reult was as close to the will of the people as we could get. It is the fault of the political classes that have rendered people not caring enough to go vote
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Exactly...they didnt care!!!
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Neither is 48%The will of The people implies a huge majority and a very popular decision. 52% for an unpopular decision for around half the population is not the will of the people.
I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about to be honest
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Neither is 48%
See - ypu are blind to reality. Regardless of what happes next. The WILL be transition fro. The current state of play for both sides of the equation...but you just carry on in MartWorld with your MartFacts ignori g everyones else's whicb in reality are just as credible as yours.Yes, if we put a plan on the table.
No it is because I am totally bored with your totally predictable responses...I have reached the point where I really do not give a kipper's cock what you sayI suspect that is because your comprehension of what I said is not very good.
See - ypu are blind to reality. Regardless of what happes next. The WILL be transition fro. The current state of play for both sides of the equation...but you just carry on in MartWorld with your MartFacts ignori g everyones else's whicb in reality are just as credible as yours.
You are blinkered and very bori g
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No it is because I am totally bored with your totally predictable responses...I have reached the point where I really do not give a kipper's cock what you say
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See - ypu are blind to reality. Regardless of what happes next. The WILL be transition fro. The current state of play for both sides of the equation...but you just carry on in MartWorld with your MartFacts ignori g everyones else's whicb in reality are just as credible as yours.
You are blinkered and very bori g
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What you know that to be true of 52% of those who voted? You are simply falling for media reporting of selective surveys - themselves designed to mislead.
Now you & Mart & whoever can dispute that all you like, just like you dispute the result, the reasons people voted how they did, the fact that because it isn't your favoured result it is now only an advisory referendum & anything else you want...but we are leaving
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What you know that to be true of 52% of those who voted? You are simply falling for media reporting of selective surveys - themselves designed to mislead.
Now you & Mart & whoever can dispute that all you like, just like you dispute the result, the reasons people voted how they did, the fact that because it isn't your favoured result it is now only an advisory referendum & anything else you want...but we are leaving
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So it is against the will of the people?Jesus.. this just gets more crazy..no one is disputing the result. It always was an advisory referendum. No it wasn’t the result we wanted and we may be leaving, but it certainly isn’t the will of the people.
So it is against the will of the people?
No. But some will say what they want. Just like you do.
'We wanted and we may be leaving' ?......Tough shit pal, majority of people voted leave (and i don't care if it was just one vote more) and we are leaving so get over it.
Thank you and rest assured i shall enjoy watching the corrupt EU crumble over the next few yearsYes, you are probably leaving, but I‘m not. Half the country are not happy about that so don’t expect the whole country to be celebrating with you if the UK does actually leave at some time.
Enjoy life with the fantastic deals that your Tory hedge fund owners have promised you.
Thank you and rest assured i shall enjoy watching the corrupt EU crumble over the next few years
Me make crap up?As usual.. I did not say that. You are saying that I said it was against the will of the people. Making things up again. What I said is factually correct. It cannot be described as will of the people when the majority of voters did not vote for it. There is no will of the people here, the country is split on this issue. Stop pretending it isn’t.
You just make crap up.
Look above and check the link.....Together with the stalwart Nigel Farage, Arron Banks, Wigmore, Mogg, Lord Ashcroft, BoJo, Gove, Davis, Liam Fox etc..What a revolting thought actually. The EU is the biggest trading bloc in the world and although Trump and Putin are trying to smash it, it is still a good bet to survive. Who knows where the U.K. will end up…
Me make crap up?
You have just said that the majority of voters didn't vote leave. But they did.
I am quite surprised that you haven't mentioned about the latest meetings that were seen more important than the scheduled Brexit talks.....
The Guardian view on the EU migration deal: fault lines in the fortress | Editorial
It sounds like you are hoping everything goes tits up for the UK so you can say you told us so. But as usual it is just all hearsay.Registered voters as opposed to those who actually voted.
I am surprised that you lot didn’t mention the latest Brexit story. It’s gone from we are going to do a Norway. We could be wealthy like Switzerland. We will be doing Trade deals with Germany straight after the vote. A trade deal with the EU will be easy. We will cut and paste the EU trade deals with other countries. We will have our cake and eat it. Brexit was never about economics. And now from Farage, Mr Brexit himself: “I’m a bit schizophrenic about Brexit. Us leaving is everything I campaigned on and it’s going to happen, but what is happening is we are going into negotiations in a lily-livered, weak way. It will mean we won’t reap the benefits for years to come.”
Years to come? Er... what will happen in the meantime? Let me guess.... the collapse of manufacturing in the U.K.? The end of soft fruit farming as we know it today? A collapse of financial services? Less pubs and restaurants because of lack of staff? Lack of staff in the NHS? Sinking tax revenue as a result of a slowdown of GDP? Still whatever happens Mr Brexit has got his excuses lined up. And „years to come“ is a new phrase in his vocabulary. Independence Day and will of the people now replaced with „in years to come“.
Not as much as I will!Thank you and rest assured i shall enjoy watching the corrupt EU crumble over the next few years
Me make crap up?
You have just said that the majority of voters didn't vote leave. But they did.
I am quite surprised that you haven't mentioned about the latest meetings that were seen more important than the scheduled Brexit talks.....
The Guardian view on the EU migration deal: fault lines in the fortress | Editorial
It sounds like you are hoping everything goes tits up for the UK so you can say you told us so. But as usual it is just all hearsay.
So back to the problems that the EU has that you make out it doesn't have.....
Not as much as I will!
So the EU has a priority of human rights. So Mart, you have told us that human rights will disappear when we leave the EU. We know it isn't true but...
So how about these holding centres? Germany, Austria and France don't want them. Someone will have to volunteer to have them. If they don't happen Italy threaten to veto everything. But what about the human rights?
EU's migrant centres could breach human rights, say campaigners
So how about outsourcing the problem?
EU leaders defend migration deal as doubts emerge
Oh yes the EU is as strong and together as usual like you say?
No you idiot. There will now be changes of somesort. In itself that will mean a transition...whether it be a day or 50yrs - & it will affect both the EU & UK. AND it is going to happen so suck it upYes, if we put a plan on the table.
I didn't mention Brexit. I was agreeing with Westendlad about enjoying watching the corrupt EU crumble over the next few years.I think you maybe in for a longer wait than Farage has predicted for any benefits, apart from French made blue passports, from Brexit.
Farage: “I’m a bit schizophrenic about Brexit. Us leaving is everything I campaigned on and it’s going to happen, but what is happening is we are going into negotiations in a lily-livered, weak way. It will mean we won’t reap the benefits for years to come.”
Martcov: if at all.
Not in a democracy it doesn't. The referendum was designed to follow the majority vote (ie - the majority of the peole that cared enough to vote.The will of The people implies a huge majority and a very popular decision. 52% for an unpopular decision for around half the population is not the will of the people.
You are a dickYes. You got it. If a large section of the people voted remain, or as you say, didn’t care, then you cannot go around saying it was the will of the people.
That is because what you spout is utterly biased &/or negative about the decision we have taken to leave the UKI suspect that is because your comprehension of what I said is not very good.
No you idiot. There will now be changes of somesort. In itself that will mean a transition...whether it be a day or 50yrs - & it will affect both the EU & UK. AND it is going to happen so suck it up
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Be sure about what?Did you read Tony‘s link about Gove‘s tantrum? How on earth can you be sure? I think we will come to our senses and put something on the table, but we are not acting like a professional organisation at cabinet level. Sorry to bore you with details.
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