Astute
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No. It broke the rules. It has thousands of people working for it.
So what happened to wanting to see where it breaks it's own rules? Would you like more?
No. It broke the rules. It has thousands of people working for it.Yes. Officials in Brussels admitted the bureaucracy that designed the rules is not itself compliant with the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). A spokesman said the European Commission was "taking and will continue to take all the necessary steps to comply".
Oops. Now taking necessary steps to comply. Not earth shattering and they are correcting it. Shouldn’t have happened, but it is an organisation of 500 million people in 28 countries. The chances of administrative mistakes are quite high. It would be a problem if they refused to correct mistakes, but in your examples they rectify the situation.
Did nothing wrong?No. It shows you talk about votes when a civil servant gets appointed, but you forget about votes and democracy when it comes to the future head of state of the UK.. it’s called hypocrisy. The EU hasn’t done anything wrong. Juncker has pushed the EU rules to the limit. We won’t talk about May‘s attempt to use Henry VIII rules to pass legislation without debate. Henry got into power by birth so that’s ok by your standards.
And now wants to lock them up.
Not at all. You said that Charlie is going to be king and we never voted for him.
If not then what did you mean?
Was Selmayr negligence?
Did nothing wrong?
So you have admitted that it has done wrong but now you say it hasn't?
He didn't push the rules to the limit. He broke them. Full stop.
The job wasn't posted as available. Rule broken.
Selmayr didn't have a post that meant that he could apply for the job. So he was given one just so he could apply. This job also wasn't advertised. Rule broken.
His so called opponent was given a high up post for applying for the job given to Selmayr and withdrawing as soon as it was announced. This post wasn't advertised. Rule broken.
You keep saying that Juncker doesn't have the top job. No he doesn't. Selmayr has the top job. But Juncker can pull a lot of strings considering that he doesn't have the top job.
Then you have the nerve to say the EU isn't bent and that no rules have been broken :smuggrin:
Where does the money go?
Revealed: majority of politicians on key EU farming panel have industry links
So you are denying it then?Really? They would need a big prison and the billions spent on housing, feeding, teaching languages and training would all have been in vain.
Which is what I said. But you denied it.I've already said what I meant.
Strengthen the rules?Not by Juncker.. But, there is obviously a need to strengthen the rules on appointmenting people. More like him taking advantage of poorly formulated or enforceable rules. Stil, there is supposed to be a reassessment according to one of your links.
Yes there was an enquiry.I have said that there was an enquiry and the enquiry let it stand. The socialists in your link say that the parliament accepted the enquiry, but there will be a reassessment.
There is no suggestion that a 28 state, over 700 MEP organisation has deliberately promoted Selmayr. Juncker has pushed the rules to the limit.
The organisation which you are blaming for Juncker’s tricks is in uproar, which would suggest that they feel the same as yourself.
What’s wrong with that? If anything you should be praising the reaction of the majority in the EU.
Positive spin eh?Nothing unusual in Farmers being on a farming commission. Nor on Greenpeace pointing out ways in which the environment is being effected. Nor on politicians having private interests. Look at the landlords in the HoP in the UK. And, yes they should, and do declare their interests. Interesting is that Farage gave as his reason for not attending the Fisheries Commission, as that they have no power. This article claims commissions do have power. Make of that what you will.
Anyway about time you told us of a large organisation, such as a federal state, federation or United Kingdom that doesn’t have these failings. Using your logic, we should leave the UK because of things like the parliamentary pedophile ring coverup of Cyril Smith and Co..
Which is what I said. But you denied it.
Otherwise what did you mean by saying about Charlie being King next?
So you are denying it then?
Positive spin eh?
So those who get money out of the system are the ones who decide who the money goes to but you say it is the best way to do it.
Any more comments on that the EU doesn't break its own rules? Have plenty more examples for you if you like.
Yes there was an enquiry.
That was the same as a bank robber being tried by another bank robber instead of an independent judge in court.
Isn't it me that says the vast majority of those in the EU are very unhappy with the way it happened but they can't do anything about it? Yet you make out the enquiry has cleared it of any wrongdoing. Of course they wouldn't find that they did anything wrong.
And it leaves the EU top heavy with Germans. Yet you make out it is neutral between the countries in the EU.
You clarified nothing. I have now asked you a few times what you meant. And when I guessed what you meant you said I was putting words in your mouth.It's quite clear from my post what I mean, I even clarified it. You then attempted to claim I said something else.
And here you go again mentioning people that don't do things the right way being a good enough reason for the EU to not have to do things the right way.Yes, I am sure you have. These are mundane things that happen everywhere. The Trump adminstration ( just click Wilbur Ross, insider trading of a cabinet member for starters ), our parliament ( expenses or sex scandal every few years ), the Russian federation ( you become rich or land in prison or are murdered depending on who you politically support whilst being corrupt ), Victor Orban's family business ( Hungary ) etc... They should be stopped. I think we agree on that. You can scour the internet and find faults in the set-up of a 500 million entity pretty easily. It is the largest bloc in the world. I don't get you point. Are you claiming the EU is unique in that some things are wrong or could be better carried out? That's why you are happy going into a car crash Brexit? Takes all sorts I suppose.
Brussels’ Selmayr problem: Too many Germans in top jobsGermany is the biggest country in the EU and has the most MEPs. But: Selmayr is the first German to hold this positon in 50 years. Tusk is president of the EU Council - Polish, Guy Verhofstadt, EU parliament for Brexit - Belgian, Juncker EU Council - Luxembourgoise. Your analogy of a bank robber also doesn't fit. UKIP was found guilty of cheating with EU funds by the EU. Sort of shows that even EU parties can be found out by the EU. Isn't Farage still having money deducted from his salary having been caught in some scam?
I don't make out that the enquiry said he didn't break the law. The enquiry said that he didn't. You make out that he broke the law... although you haven't seen all the evidence presented and are not an expert on EU law. You are wasted on here. I am aware that a lot of people are annoyed, including you and I, and that the socialists said there will be a reassessment. Let's see what happens. But I will accept what the enquiry says, or what the reassessment brings out. I still don't like it.
How long dya reckon it would take to read this thread?
Brussels’ Selmayr problem: Too many Germans in top jobs
Is Germany too powerful for Europe?
From the article:
"I think that's an incredibly silly point to make," says Wehn. "German dominance in Europe is not anti-democratic. There are parts of Europe that are economically ahead of other parts. It's just the same in Britain: London is economically ahead of the north-east of England. So should London leave sterling? That's obviously a silly answer. The same is true in Europe. There are fishing villages in Greece that are going to be economically negligible, while Germany is dominant. Does that mean we should leave the euro? No! A strong Europe needs a strong Germany."
I agree with that.
http://www.atimes.com/article/really-runs-european-union-germany-thats/
Germany RULING the EU: Now THREE of EU's most powerful institutions are run by GERMANS
"Mr Selmayr denied he was behind the October 2017 leak, but his feelings are known about Britain and Brexit, having once called Britain’s decision to exit from the bloc “stupid”."
I said the same on German TV.
Mr Oettinger said: “Martin Selmayr is not an agent of German politics. On the contrary, I can tell you that some in Berlin don’t see him as a representative of German interests — rather the opposite.”
World's Greatest Danger: Germany Domineers Over Europe Again!
Oh god....it gets worse...
Loopy paper where you get your article:
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Yes Germany has the highest population. And it has used the EU and Euro to its own benefit to become strong. And continues to do so. But does it mean that they should have so many top jobs when most countries have none at all?
And here you go again mentioning people that don't do things the right way being a good enough reason for the EU to not have to do things the right way.
Nearly everyone agrees on how bad Trump is. Are you comparing the EU to Trump?
And here you go again mentioning people that don't do things the right way being a good enough reason for the EU to not have to do things the right way.
Nearly everyone agrees on how bad Trump is. Are you comparing the EU to Trump?
You clarified nothing. I have now asked you a few times what you meant. And when I guessed what you meant you said I was putting words in your mouth.
Been taking lessons off Mart?
Which is a Mart answer as there isn't a decent enough excuse for him.Read the first page, assume that astutes reply to everything is “what about what Junker done” and you’ve covered all the bases.
1 We are not a part of the USA.No comparison is there. Trump is premier league. Juncker is not even League 2 in comparison. Just saying if you want to scour the internet for tax dodging, money laudering, mob connections, corruption, insider trading, using government agencies for your own purposes, appointing friends and family members to top jobs etc., just google Trump News. A bit easier than getting The Express articles about German Civil servants and missing the fact that they are administrators not top politicians. The Germans do not have one of the top 3 jobs in the EU.
No. You said the EU doesn't and wanted me to prove it.No. I said it is not unusual for people to get caught out bending or breaking laws. I said it should be stopped. You seem to think it is an EU thing and never happens anywhere else.
More like you don't like being shown to be wrongMore like he is seeing how you constantly put words into my mouth and his own mouth.
Not in my view.So some unelected people are better than others?
Don't worry. There will be jobs from British companies coming back to the UK when they can't take advantage of cheap labour in the EU. It works both ways. And as was said in the article the EU will come off worse for it. The work was done here for our expertise. We will find it much easier to work with the rest of the world in this field once the EU restrictions are lifted after leaving.
He is also assuming anybody (other than himself & SickBoy & parhaps 1% of the UK population) gives a shit what Charlie saysCharlie has the right through birth. Selmayr has the right through breaking rules and procedures. Yet you make out that it is OK.
Just shows that the EU can't do anything wrong in your eyes.
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