Try and be truthful for once.You posted more than one link explaining exactly the answer to that. Why don’t you try reading them? For a change. Nice to see it’s not just my links that you don’t read. No wonder you talk bollocks you don’t even read your own.
So did the EU lend money to Turkey to take jobs away from the UK?I’ve just provided you multiple quotes in one post dismissing your absurd claims in this post. Clearly you didn’t read any of it because not five minutes later you’re spouting the same bollocks again.
You never heard of cancelling debts & nullifying agreements? AND mostly getting away with it? Maybe SISU & Northampton will jog your memory. Or, although a long time ago, a certain German leader..?They, the EIB loaned them money. They have to pay it back, with interest. “They” haven’t given them anything. How can the Turks write it off? They are neither EU members and therefore not a shareholder in the EIB, they have no authority to write it off.
Tony all you are doing is quoting an article from the Independent and claiming it’s your own words.
Oddly you as that article fails to mention is it’s paying back agreed commitments from the bank before we leave as we are massively net contributors. So it’s irrelevant.
The interest rate comment was not actually referring to those loans but the whole Eu strategy which props up the euro through tying the banks lending rate to Germany so it can support countries that otherwise would be bust.
Anyway Tony can you link the address of the welsh branch if the Eu commission please - I need a loan
So why did the EU pay to export jobs? And surely you aren't suggesting the EU would pursue a pipe-dream?Turkey has been “joining” the EU for over 30 years now. They don’t meet the criteria and never will. The process was started to garner favour with Turkish voters by Turkish politicians. Turkey joining the EU is little more than a myth.
Explain oh ye of superior knowledgeWhat utter drivel.
You never heard of cancelling debts & nullifying agreements? AND mostly getting away with it? Maybe SISU & Northampton will jog your memory. Or, although a long time ago, a certain German leader..?
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So did the EU lend money to Turkey to take jobs away from the UK?
You say no. Then you accuse me of talking bollocks :smuggrin:
As I told you in the post all the links are on here so how exactly am I claiming anything to be my own words when I’m telling you that the information has come from links on this thread?
There’s also more links to details on here than the one article from a newspaper. Hence I said links not link.
Then you just talk complete bollocks for no other reason than a distraction from the point.
If it’s beyond you you’re probably better off ducking out of this one.
Well. For starters it was Ford that borrowed the money not Turkey. How does Turkey have the rights to negotiate cancelling and nullifying Fords debts exactly? Turkey isn’t a member of the EU so therefore are not a shareholder in the EIB . Again, how does Turkey have the right to cancel or nullify debt owed to the EIB from an American corporation such as Ford? Or if you’re Grendull “a wonga type customers” who would have guessed has Grendull worked for a wonga type.
Are you doing a Tony and pretending that it isn't the bank of the EU and that it shouldn't be run to the benefit of EU members?
Jesus wept
Welsh branch if the Eu commission Tony?
He probably did when he heard you refer to one of the oldest most successful car manufacturers the world has seen as a wonga type customer.
Wales office - United Kingdom - European Commission
You did ask. I thought you’d embarrassed yourself enough but clearly you’re a glutton for punishment. I’d copy and paste the address but you’ll probably accuse me of claiming that they’re my own words. Even though I’ve pointed out it’s from a link.
So why did the EU pay to export jobs? And surely you aren't suggesting the EU would pursue a pipe-dream?
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That’s not the welsh branch Tony.
I give up
Tony im referring to the Eu lending strategy to its bust markets - I have zero interest in ford and turkey - still mad Mart is back on board
You should give up. Either that or buy a dictionary and read it.
“Branch, a division or office of a large business or organization, operating locally or having a particular function”
Bust markets? Like this one? England: GBP 340 million for Jaguar Land Rover Presumably you are interested in this one?
So did the EU lend money to Turkey to take jobs away from the UK?
You say no. Then you accuse me of talking bollocks :smuggrin:
So you believe there is a European Commission for Wales Tony?
No as that’s not proving astutes point regarding the Eu monetary and fiscal strategy being linked to the banks lending policy Tony.
You asked a question, I answered it. Not embarrassed enough by the answer you try to rewrite the definition of the word branch when it refers to an organisation. I again answer you with a copy and pasted definition from an online dictionary (for the purpose of clarity I’m not claiming this definition to be my own words), you’re now attempting to have a third stab at a pointless and failed jibe that you made trying to look clever while dodging the point actually being made. A sensible person would have bowed out when proven wrong the first time, a stubborn person would have given up after the second attempt. You’d have to be a complete idiot to come back for a third go. Considering that you were trying to be clever you’ve done a good job making yourself look an idiot. That’s a special kind of stupid.
You never heard of cancelling debts & nullifying agreements? AND mostly getting away with it? Maybe SISU & Northampton will jog your memory. Or, although a long time ago, a certain German leader..?
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Muppet?
What an about turn. You said the EIB wasn't anything to do with the EU. Now are you saying that it is?
Maybe you can't deny the links for once.
Did you notice this line in the last link?
The EIB does currently lend outside the EU, but generally does so in line with the EU's foreign policy objectives: mostly pouring cash into pre-accession countries that could one day join the EU, or providing support for the EU's poorer southern and eastern neighbours.
So how did this mean a big loan to Turkey to take away jobs from the UK? So in other words we paid out to lose jobs.
Oh the EU is a wonderful thing.
Tony all you are doing is quoting an article from the Independent and claiming it’s your own words.
Oddly you as that article fails to mention is it’s paying back agreed commitments from the bank before we leave as we are massively net contributors. So it’s irrelevant.
The interest rate comment was not actually referring to those loans but the whole Eu strategy which props up the euro through tying the banks lending rate to Germany so it can support countries that otherwise would be bust.
Anyway Tony can you link the address of the welsh branch if the Eu commission please - I need a loan
I would get a loan quick and in Euros at a low rate. The BoE will have to raise interest rates to prop up the GBP when Brexit finally happens.
So you believe there is an independent European Commission for Wales that operates out of that office?
Is that what you think?
Because if you do you really are a moron. Do you think that office in Wales is the European Commission for Wales Tony?
Is there one for England Tony?
Thing is you mock astute yet you believe every country in Europe has its own individual office that makes its own individual determination of state aid validation in its own country - there are 28 that act autonomously - you actually think that don’t you Tony?
Forth attempt. Wow. How many times can you change a question before it no longer becomes the question originally asked. I’ll let you have the first two as it’s unfair to expect you to have read the dictionary and recalled every definition of every word (although I would have thought that any simpleton would understand that the word branch when used in the right context also means the same as a local office). But now you’re getting ridiculous. You’re now wording this question so it bares no resemblance to what you asked me and not only that you’re trying to put words in my mouth in the process. You’re question as originally asked wasn’t even relevant to the conversation, in its latest guise it isn’t even relevant to the how you asked it originally. You have serious issues. You should probably seek professional help for this trait of yours.
Tony your whole reply to astute was embarrassing- even Martcov is keeping a wide berth.
No. You never being able to admit when wrong and preferring to come out with more bullshit to try and cover for yourself is beyond me though.If it’s beyond you you’re probably better off ducking out of this one.
Will it? Why?
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