Top late. EUKIP is the ExitUKIP rebel group of disillusioned Kippers.
And call themselves EUKIP.
European United Kingdom Independence Party.
Legal?
There is no law to be broken. Why would they make laws against themselves?
But there were rules and regulations to be broke. They did a good job of that.
Just of the top of my head since the last election you have the government striking a deal with a climate change denying, links to terrorism, cash for ash scandal, anti peace process mob called the DUP who don’t even have the ability to govern their own part of the U.K. because of the already mentioned cash for ash scandal. Then you have the means to this deal, by finding the magic money tree they just spent weeks telling us it doesn’t exist. Right up until the point they needed to save their own political necks. Then you have the government trying to bypass the democracy of our sovereign parliament save for a very embarrassing JR and climb down. Then you have the pairing scandal, another attempt to thwart democracy. Just very recently there was the deliberate act of ensuring that a government white paper wasn’t distributed to the opposition parties in a deliberate attempt to thwart commons debate over a government brexit announcement. I could go on and on and all examples would be equally as bad to anything that’s happened in the EU and you know it. You’re just trying to be a smart arse.
You never answered my question who the disaffected youth would turn to if Corbyn remained true to his word
So when you come across these apparent shameful acts Tony what do you do? Perhaps defeat the party in power.
Sadly in the shady world of the Brussels capitalist cosy club that democratic ability does not exist does it Tony?
Shameful isn’t it?
So when you come across these apparent shameful acts Tony what do you do? Perhaps defeat the party in power.
Sadly in the shady world of the Brussels capitalist cosy club that democratic ability does not exist does it Tony?
Shameful isn’t it?
A bit like most civil servants. At least you could get rid of the MEPs. But, you would have to go and vote in the European elections. I always do.
Makes me laugh the way the likes of martclegg claim their reason for opposing Brexit is to protect the UK economy, whilst at the same time supporting a Corbyn/McDonnell far left economy wrecking government, likely propped up by SNP.
So we can get rid of MEPs in the UK and they can definitely change things i don’t like. That’s odd. I thought you said we have to to as Lithuania and Ireland tell us to do
So we can get rid of MEPs in the UK and they can definitely change things i don’t like. That’s odd. I thought you said we have to to as Lithuania and Ireland tell us to do
And not just the UK.Are you now denying that Juncker brought in tax dodges that has cost the UK many billions?
So we can get rid of MEPs in the UK and they can definitely change things i don’t like. That’s odd. I thought you said we have to to as Lithuania and Ireland tell us to do
MEP's are only marginally more powerful than the house of lords.. they just scrutinise, amend or reject legislation, they don't make it that is done by the unelected European Commission, political appointees, like Kinnock & Patten & Mandleson.
Do you know who the current UK commissioners are? I've never heard of them.
List of European Commissioners by nationality - Wikipedia
If Corbyn does agree a second referendum on the result then it clearly shows him to be a weak puppet at the hand of the membership
It also brings him at odds with the real string puller Mcluskey who wants to end freedom of movement.
Corbyn will cave in. He will have betrayed his electorate. He has already said he will reject any deal the government will bring to the table
So May should be brave and on rejection of the deal that will be agreed by parliament stand the government down.
Corbyn can then run a minority government and the tories and the DUP immediately declare a no confidence vote to bring him down.
This should all happen in March next year
That is the biggest problem with many Labour leaders in opposition. It is all about saying any old crap to be able to gain power. Not due to sensible policy, but - here comes that word - populism!!! All just to 'get rid of the Tories'
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Ah so you never mentioned the 86% Labour vote?You've not answered my question about the 80 odd percent and have just claimed a couple of things I've never said or believed.
Magic money tree?Then you have the means to this deal, by finding the magic money tree they just spent weeks telling us it doesn’t exist.
The only thing that hasn't happened is something done about rules and regulations being broken in the EU.Yes. That is reading things into it. Hasn’t happened yet. The commissioner is looking into the effects on 25 September. He may get roped in.
Yes I agree. Gave a damning report but nothing has or will be done.Take that up with the first enquiry and with the ombudsman ( actually an Irish woman ). I suspect she knows more than you or I. She gave a damning report, but the appointment stands.
UKIP?Well, according to you the opposition is worse than the party in power. So what do you do now?
Would be best if you checked your facts before making statements.so you're happy with the current running of the economy which has seen increased borrowing, increased spending and a reduction in tax receipts?
Yes I agree. Gave a damning report but nothing has or will be done.
Selmayr is more powerful than the EU Commission ombudsman already. He is untouchable. They are now toothless. So Selmayr has the freedom to do as he pleases.
And remember he is delighted to be called names like monster. Then you wonder why I want us out of the EU.
UKIP?
The only thing that hasn't happened is something done about rules and regulations being broken in the EU.
Can you imagine the uproar by yourself and others if the same had happened here?
There is no rule that says he must keep his position. It was Juncker that said he would resign if Selmayr was removed. Should have made him resign as he was the one that organised it with Selmayr. Then he wouldn't be able to stop the EU looking into his tax dodges like he does now.
Would be best if you checked your facts before making statements.
UK government borrowing at 11-year low
The only thing that hasn't happened is something done about rules and regulations being broken in the EU.
Can you imagine the uproar by yourself and others if the same had happened here?
There is no rule that says he must keep his position. It was Juncker that said he would resign if Selmayr was removed. Should have made him resign as he was the one that organised it with Selmayr. Then he wouldn't be able to stop the EU looking into his tax dodges like he does now.
MEP's are only marginally more powerful than the house of lords.. they just scrutinise, amend or reject legislation, they don't make it that is done by the unelected European Commission, political appointees, like Kinnock & Patten & Mandleson.
Do you know who the current UK commissioners are? I've never heard of them.
List of European Commissioners by nationality - Wikipedia
As you know he has been pulling the strings for a few years now. It is said (no proof) that he nominated Barnier as chief negotiator. He is proud of the names he gets called....the names you went off on one about until you found out he is proud of them. Brexit is being shaped by him. And what about the future of the EU with him in charge? It won't worry you as he is German. But I don't see a future of harmony ahead.I wouldn’t leave the single market because of Selmayr. What effect has Selmayr had on anything? Has he caused comparable damage to the UK manufacturing industry as leaving the SM will?
Name one then?The party advocating Muslim only prisons?
Unfair dismissal? Are you having a laugh? Rules and regulations were broke. He shouldn't have got the job. How could it be unfair dismissal when it was unfair (that is being polite) that he got the job. Even you admit so.They would also have looked at the legal aspect of an „unfair dismissal“ claim. Juncker is gone end of 2019.
And not just the UK.
Unfair dismissal? Are you having a laugh? Rules and regulations were broke. He shouldn't have got the job. How could it be unfair dismissal when it was unfair (that is being polite) that he got the job. Even you admit so.
Name one then?
Shall we all vote for the Monster Raving Looney Party?
And there is Mart jumping in as soon as he thinks someone is right and I am wrong for once.That's April to June.
Both have confirmed that the appointment shouldn't have taken place. And again you agree on this.They have had 2 investigations. Both have confirmed his appointment. How can you make a case against unfair dismissal? His lawyers would be laughing all the way to the bank. It stinks, but up until now, no one has presented a watertight case to remove him.
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