Yeah well...I just chose the top 2 or 3 of sources I'd heard of given what I searched. Maybe you should delve into the positives for more recent stuff if you want them. I am as happy with thoughts as they stand as you seem with yours. We just beg to differ I guessHaven’t had chance to read them in detail and won’t until tomorrow now but after a quick scan I can already see some of its out of date especially regarding trade. For instance it’s been confirmed that India is more interested in doing a deal with the EU than us as apparently we’ve always been the stumbling block in EU/India trade negotiations as we’ve always vetoed the relaxation of Visas into the EU, something also confirmed by India that relaxation of the visa rules would have to be part of any post brexit U.K./India trade deal. Then there’s the bit about trade with the UAE. The EU was confirmed this year as the GCC’s biggest trading partner.
A lot has happened since 2017 and especially January 2017 (that’s fastly approaching 2 years). I would suggest that at first glance the articles you’ve linked are out of date. They also seem to be based again on largely rhetoric rather than anything tangible.
Like the sustained economic growth when the uk plunged into the ERM and interest rates climbed to 15%?
It isn't the unknown that is the problem. It is what the EU is doing to try and force us to stay in the EU that is the problem.If there was a plan by the leave campaign in place that demonstrated that the UK would have sustained and stable economic growth, then I would have voted for it. There wasn't and still isn't - why take the risk of leaping into the unknown? It makes no sense.
That’s not true either. It was the year before that interest rates climbed to 15%. They dropped to 14% the month we joined and continued to fall to 7% when we left the ERM two years later.
Yeah well...I just chose the top 2 or 3 of sources I'd heard of given what I searched. Maybe you should delve into the positives for more recent stuff if you want them. I am as happy with thoughts as they stand as you seem with yours. We just beg to differ I guess
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Interest rates rose by 5% in one day Tony - George Soros made a fortune on the long devaluation and we were at record interest rates
That is because you only search pro EU outlets.I don’t specifically look for bad news brexit stories I just look for brexit stories. They just happen to be mainly bad. The only two tangible ones are cheaper citrus fruit as non EU produced citrus fruit is hit with a big tariff to favour EU grown produce and pigs ears. And the latter one depends on whether we decide to stop tagging livestock through one ear as per EU guidelines, which we may not do anyway as we’ve been tagging livestock for centuries. In fact we invented the practice (disclaimer. GCSE history before Grendull starts fact checking me on wiki and then claiming that I got it of wiki)
I think you’re confusing it with when Maggie came into power and hiked interest rates to 17%. By choice.
Wonder why they are mainly bad? Media agenda? Get more readers, listeners & viewers? It is a business for them not just newsI don’t specifically look for bad news brexit stories I just look for brexit stories. They just happen to be mainly bad. The only two tangible ones are cheaper citrus fruit as non EU produced citrus fruit is hit with a big tariff to favour EU grown produce and pigs ears. And the latter one depends on whether we decide to stop tagging livestock through one ear as per EU guidelines, which we may not do anyway as we’ve been tagging livestock for centuries. In fact we invented the practice (disclaimer. GCSE history before Grendull starts fact checking me on wiki and then claiming that I got it of wiki)
Wrong. There are consultants doing so...to prevent stroke in at risk pts. If the cause of stroke a is a clot...it is warfarin or similar anticoagulant that would be prescribed. The point is...experts given the same information reach different convlusions in many situations. Media agenda chooses which are given airtime where. I reckon that the coverage is largely scaremongering & speculation.
That said there is rightfully much concern out there because of the unknown moving forward. Some will win, some will lose - both sides of the channel. It will all balance out though.
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It isn't the unknown that is the problem. It is what the EU is doing to try and force us to stay in the EU that is the problem.
Nothing to do with rules changing?
I don't see that at all, but like I say, I don't consider myself to be biasIt isn't the unknown that is the problem. It is what the EU is doing to try and force us to stay in the EU that is the problem.
Wonder why they are mainly bad? Media agenda? Get more readers, listeners & viewers? It is a business for them not just news
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That is because you only search pro EU outlets.
Yep - poor (or no) planning. Thatcher's dogma carried on by Major - and a clueless Chancellor.Like the sustained economic growth when the uk plunged into the ERM and interest rates climbed to 15%?
Yep - poor (or no planning).
Goodbye.
So there is you not in the UK. Mart in Germany. SB moving to Italy and Tony who voted UKIP.
I get the 3 of you and why you are so biased. But not Tony who voted UKIP. And UKIP as we all know were about one thing. Leaving the EU.
No entirely down to EU strategy
I disagreeNo entirely down to EU strategy
Yes, of course, the EU is to blame. Like it is for infrastructure, failings of the NHS, lack of affordable housing, underfunded schools, people talking in foreign languages in the street, in fact for everything. Brilliant. Leave the EU and everything will be fixed..... er no..... deregulation, scrap worker's rights guaranteed by the EU, increase the gig economy, drop any EU tax evasion rules, drop all tariffs and port controls on goods from emerging markets, let the US agricultural products in without pesky rules and sell off the NHS. And you will all live happily ever after. I will enjoy coming over for holidays and to watch the city with my nice Euros, and benefit from the falling pound. Win win.
I disagree
People were chucking their keys in when Thatcher was looking after those with savings with increased interest rates month by month - remember it well when I bought my first house as a 21 year old back in 1987. Not sure how I managed to be honest - dark days for a young lad on his own.So the run ok the pound wasn’t to do with the ERM?
In one day people were contemplating chucking their keys to their homes as interest rates ran out of control.
On the same day a vile currency speculator made a fortune out of British people’s misery. A certain someone who hold in high regard.
People were chucking their keys in when Thatcher was looking after those with savings with increased interest rates month by month - remember it well when I bought my first house as a 21 year old back in 1987. Not sure how I managed to be honest - dark days for a young lad on his own.
Anyway, I just remembered that I dislike you because of your persistent ignorance and rudeness - and in a long term and sustainable way
I rest my caseIn other words you haven’t a clue about the ERM
But you're not saying why it will balance out. I proved evidence to suggest it's going to be a fuck up. Show me something that's says it won't.
Trust me, I've looked and can find very little and what I've found from Johnson, mogg, fox and co is riddled with inaccuracies
That is because you only search pro EU outlets.
I rest my case
Wonder why they are mainly bad? Media agenda? Get more readers, listeners & viewers? It is a business for them not just news
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That was crashing out. You said plunging in. Two completely different things.
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