dutchman
Well-Known Member
What 'disaster' is that? I live here and I've yet to see any difference.
The people voted for leave and it has ended in a disaster.
You can have a post-legislative referendum as we had on the parliamentary voting system.
Are you being deliberately obtuse? You've said yourself the referendum was not legally binding so why are you still arguing that it was?
You can make all the arguments you like about will of the people, elections after the referendum, what was in a leaflet or anything else, many of which I would agree with but it doesn't change the very simple fact that the referendum was not legally binding.
I repeat we can’t have a legally binding referendum
We can have a referendum which the government if the day commits to honour the outcome - this was quite clearly the case in this campaign.
You seem to me adopting mad Mart tin foil mentality
As we can’t have a legally binding referendum without an Act of Parliament I assume you’d be ok if the government had another referendum and ignored its outcome.
Would that be ok?
What 'disaster' is that? I live here and I've yet to see any difference.
I repeat we can’t have a legally binding referendum
We can have a referendum which the government if the day commits to honour the outcome - this was quite clearly the case in this campaign.
You seem to me adopting mad Mart tin foil mentality
As we can’t have a legally binding referendum without an Act of Parliament I assume you’d be ok if the government had another referendum and ignored its outcome.
Would that be ok?
I repeat we can’t have a legally binding referendum
We can have a referendum which the government if the day commits to honour the outcome - this was quite clearly the case in this campaign.
You seem to me adopting mad Mart tin foil mentality
As we can’t have a legally binding referendum without an Act of Parliament I assume you’d be ok if the government had another referendum and ignored its outcome.
Would that be ok?
I repeat we can’t have a legally binding referendum
We can have a referendum which the government if the day commits to honour the outcome - this was quite clearly the case in this campaign.
You seem to me adopting mad Mart tin foil mentality
As we can’t have a legally binding referendum without an Act of Parliament I assume you’d be ok if the government had another referendum and ignored its outcome.
Would that be ok?
So you need more young people to fund the increasing older generation.the problem is we need an expanding population to increase tax income and fund care and services for the increasingly aging population. This is going to be one of the big political issues in the next few decades.
And it hasn't made the slightest difference to everyday life here.Put the Tele on and watch the unfolding disaster. We don’t have a government at the moment. The DUP are not playing ball any more.
It ends when the money runs out.But today's workers are the futures pensioners. If they have paid their taxes they need to be looked after. That is what our system is designed for. Then they have earned their pension.
The big question is where does it end.
So you need more young people to fund the increasing older generation.
But then when those young people get old, you need even more young people to fund them in old age.
The system continues to feed on itself until eventually you reach a point where everyone in the world is elderly except a few 20 year old couples who need to have a million children each.
An expanding population cannot be sustainable in the long term.
More people means more natural resources consumed, more space taken up and more pollution.
Eventually you will run out of space, natural resources and destroy the environment.
We need a whole different economic system that does not depend on growth.
It's not impossible to think that the brainpower of a nation could not come up with a solution.
Of course there is no political or public will to do it, so we are doomed in the long term.
I cannot see us colonising another planet.
It ends when the money runs out.
As Margaret Thatcher said "The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
And it hasn't made the slightest difference to everyday life here.
Just look at what has happened with Carrillion and the East coast rail line if you want an example of a government wasting other people's money.
it's really not.I think Mr Corbyns utopian role model of an economy - Venuezula is a far more telling example
I think Mr Corbyns utopian role model of an economy - Venuezula is a far more telling example
But strangely ignore examples like in Scandinavia where it works effectively.
Redefining socialism. Sweden, Norway and Finland are democratic capitalist countries.But strangely ignore examples like in Scandinavia where it works effectively.
Shocked?You two should join the campaign for a second vote as you're both doing a brilliant job of showing that people didn't actually know what they were voting on.
I'm actually quite shocked. DIdn't realise there was people who were claiming the result was legally binding.
What in the EU Referendum act makes you think that?
Shocked?
Why is it I am not surprised that you can't show anything where the referendum wasn't supposed to take us out of the EU if we voted leave?
Why aren't we having mass protests on the streets because the referendum wasn't supposed to be taking us out of the EU?
Who voted thinking that is was just an idea on public thought and not taking us out of the EU?
Exactly.
Redefining socialism. Sweden, Norway and Finland are democratic capitalist countries.
But strangely ignore examples like in Scandinavia where it works effectively.
We have a far more socialist approach than those countries who heavily tax individuals and goods.
We are having mass protests because we don’t do referenda in the UK.
I don't see hundreds of thousands of people in yellow jackets blockading the roads in England.
Redefining socialism. Sweden, Norway and Finland are democratic capitalist countries.
Yeah so redefining socialismWith high taxes and generous benefits.
There were over half a million wearing blue with stars recently ..
Ask people on the street and they are supposed to say that we should stay in the EU. Let people vote for their choice and they vote leave. I wonder where those they ask on the street come from.Last time I looked there were no blue stars on the British flag, must have all been foreigners (or traitors).
I don't see hundreds of thousands of people in yellow jackets blockading the roads in England.
The ratings on May have recently gone up to close to 50%. Those who want her gone is 33%. I think people have finally realised what a difficult job she has taken on.
What has a domestic policy on diesel go to do with the EU?
It's about more than fuel prices, it's about the traitor-Macron's austerity policies in general, his obsession with globalisation and France's subservience to the European central bank.
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