I'd be very interested to see the results of a total referendum across the whole zone, just to see what the percentages really would be. Nobody thought the leave vote would prevail here ! I can never forget meeting my remain voting mate for a pint and chat after voting and our polling station was close to a bookmakers.......it was 1/9 for a remain win , 9/1 for leave........I thought that's that then, lets just get on with life................. I wish I'd had a few quid on it now !!No, but I suspect Brexit distorted it. Other countries look on in amazement at the crap going on in the UK and clowns like BoJo and Lord Snooty appearing on their screens. I suspect that they see it as my German friends do, fxxk that for a game of conkers, we’re better off as we are.
I'd be very interested to see the results of a total referendum across the whole zone, just to see what the percentages really would be. Nobody thought the leave vote would prevail here ! I can never forget meeting my remain voting mate for a pint and chat after voting and our polling station was close to a bookmakers.......it was 1/9 for a remain win , 9/1 for leave........I thought that's that then, lets just get on with life................. I wish I'd had a few quid on it now !!
And what comment supposedly made you make this comment?If you are unable to work out that there is a difference between those agreed to be taken in and those entering the country without permission, then I don’t know what to say
And what comment supposedly made you make this comment?
You posted a link on how France took illegal immigrants wrongly back to Italy. Then you post saying France welcomes immigrants from outside the EU.
In this so called positive poll 4 countries consistently are lower than the uk in the opinion of the EU
I'd be very interested to see the results of a total referendum across the whole zone, just to see what the percentages really would be. Nobody thought the leave vote would prevail here ! I can never forget meeting my remain voting mate for a pint and chat after voting and our polling station was close to a bookmakers.......it was 1/9 for a remain win , 9/1 for leave........I thought that's that then, lets just get on with life................. I wish I'd had a few quid on it now !!
Highest in 35 years. Not good enough. How’s leave getting on? Lowest since the referendum?
I cannot speak for the whole EU, but Germany would vote remain. There’s no real discussion about leaving. Even the hard right would keep the EU, but make it into a rightwingers paradise. Europe for the Europeans and end sanctions on Russia.
So what ?Highest in 35 years. Not good enough. How’s leave getting on? Lowest since the referendum?
So what ?
Why don’t you share the results by country?
….they certainly are. The EU is all set up for them, the posh dining table at the top of the room.
Me being obtuse?If you just want to be deliberately obtuse, then go ahead.
It’s not hard to work out that as a country it will officially take in some but then others will try and enter illegally.
Is that because we are leaving and they didn't count us?Highest in 35 years. Not good enough. How’s leave getting on? Lowest since the referendum?
Me being obtuse?
So you talk up them taking in illegal immigrants. You point out that they illegally remove illegal immigrants. Yet you can't find a link anywhere.
So why do they have a right wing government?Just saying. Grendel was on about how unpopular the EU was in Italy. As a whole it is gaining in popularity. Just pointing that out as balance.
Fact based discussion.
So why do they have a right wing government?
I understand from your link that they illegally removed people. But you praise them for taking immigrants in. The two don't go together well.If you are genuinely having problems understanding it then I don’t know what to say.
So you mean right wing and very right wing?The country has a coalition, one partner is more far-right.
So you mean right wing and very right wing?
So why do they have a right wing government?
Is that because we are leaving and they didn't count us?
Or were they more selective in where they asked people? Because right wingers are growing by the day. And these are people who do not love the EU as much as you do.
Is that because we are leaving and they didn't count us?
Or were they more selective in where they asked people? Because right wingers are growing by the day. And these are people who do not love the EU as much as you do.
It is now looking likely that (after the poorest governing of a country in the whole of history) we could be asked to vote in another referendum regarding this issue.
What would be the options on the voting card?
As we all know, anyone who voted out has been portrayed as a thick, uneducated, racist halfwit. An underclass so stupid, so pointless, (they had no idea what they were voting for) and we know this to be true because middle class, university educated ideologues say so.
So I submit that the first question on the card should be...
As you can't be trusted to have free thought because people know better than you, do you still want to leave the EU. Yes or No
What should the other questions be?
There is absolutely no evidence for that and likewise no evidence for 17.4 million people being racists or bigots but this has been the tactic used against them by people with an specific agenda. I don't think we can leave without making our country weaker in the short term, but surely that proposition doesn't override democracy, weather it be right or wrong?You say that, but is there any evidence that people think 17,4 million people are thick?
I would ask how do we leave without making the country weaker?
So what was the question? Because many of those I know that voted remain don't think as much of the EU as they did before this debacle started. We have learned much more about the EU than we ever knew before. And most people don't like what they have found out.They did count us. At the time remaining was 52%. It is more now.
I couldn't agree more, the UK has become the metaphorical casting couch to an EU dominated, unwanted, awkward, late night.. oily grinding. This, in the vague hope that when it's all over, we might just get a little something out of it.So what was the question? Because many of those I know that voted remain don't think as much of the EU as they did before this debacle started. We have learned much more about the EU than we ever knew before. And most people don't like what they have found out.
It isn't that people want to stay in the EU. It is more the fear of what could happen if we leave.
So what was the question? Because many of those I know that voted remain don't think as much of the EU as they did before this debacle started. We have learned much more about the EU than we ever knew before. And most people don't like what they have found out.
It isn't that people want to stay in the EU. It is more the fear of what could happen if we leave.
Can't you do any better than that ? Lame.That’s not true.ju
More leavers have changed to remainers. You don’t know why. You are just saying that. There are a lot of people who didn’t know what the EU does, and now know it’s benefits. I have not seen a survey on the reasons for remain growing. You are assuming they don’t like the EU, but are now remain without evidence.
Can't you do any better than that ? Lame.
There is absolutely no evidence for that and likewise no evidence for 17.4 million people being racists or bigots but this has been the tactic used against them by people with an specific agenda. I don't think we can leave without making our country weaker in the short term, but surely that proposition doesn't override democracy, weather it be right or wrong?
If that happens and I believe it possible there will be a deep seated hatred and distrust of the EU that wasn't even there before the referendum......and from Remainers who won't want to be made to look stupid for locking us in once againI don't know about the rest of you but I'm starting to get a real feeling that Brexit is not going to happen.
Parliament will not give its blessing. May will be kicked out, there will be another referendum and the vote will be 'remain'.
The only doubt will be, will the EU now let us remain, or tell us remain is no longer an option?
I don't know about the rest of you but I'm starting to get a real feeling that Brexit is not going to happen.
Parliament will not give its blessing. May will be kicked out, there will be another referendum and the vote will be 'remain'.
The only doubt will be, will the EU now let us remain, or tell us remain is no longer an option?
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