But she wouldn't have handed as much power to them. And she wouldn't have let them take the piss. Also she wouldn't have let the wrongdoings by those in charge of the EU go with no retribution.
Nor did May...
Given that a vote in Parliament is less than a month away, it’s unlikely that anything fundamental will change. The EU has also stated its unwillingness to renegotiate.
First post in here so treat me gently - ITS A FUCKIN APPALLING DEAL - you can see the smiles on Juncker and Barnier whose salary we are financing - whatever they are happy with stinks for UK - so we tell them to fuck off - Maggie would have pulled the drawbar up and said you come here to negotiate[/
The UK has set the red lines within which the deal has to fall. And there it is.... exactly what you voted for ( well what was possible without wrecking the country). Great.
Brexit is not the main theme in Europe and it is the UK‘s choice.
The EU has no proposals on how Brexit should look like. It is a UK thing and if the UK wants to trade with the EU they have to fit in with EU rules. The EU offered alternatives at the beginning, but they didn’t fit in with May‘s red lines.
If you are unhappy, I suggest you ask the people who pushed Brexit, why we are where we are and not sailing into the sunset as promised? I suspect they will blame May and the EU for not delivering the undeliverable.
Lot of deaf people and lip readers saying its stupid people, that will do for me.
Its just as well we have our full attention on the important issues of our time and not silly distractions like Brexit. Does it really matter if he said stupid woman? She's a woman and some would no doubt say her actions with the brexit negotiations qualify as stupidity. Its hardly the most venomous of insults.
Maggie did many things that were wrong. But she never once let Europe take the piss.
Grounded in reality?
It was based on lies and misinformation. Just like leave was.
Or did I miss something where it was truthful and correct?
Are you saying that you don't have issues with it?Don’t deflect. You have issues with it, what are they?
I'm afraid these proposals on immigration post Brexit drawn up by a foreign born individual and his crowd are a joke. They are just making a complete mockery of it all. The establishment and ruling classes are predictably ignoring the will of the people. There will be no Brexit in reality, just a fudge of a deal to try and con the masses but there will be no changes. The UK population is burgeoning out of control as the lies continue. Fucking sick of it all now, no statesmen or women to do what's right for the British people, just career politicians and PC arseholes doing the bidding for the super rich...........still they will be able to suppress wages now forever more for the low skilled and millions will struggle to buy their own house for the foreseeable.
The EU meddling in Italy's budget just says it all............... its a monster now !
Lip readers are saying it looks like stupid woman. I don't see anything wrong with stupid woman. As it is the truth.Lot of deaf people and lip readers saying its stupid people, that will do for me.
Its just as well we have our full attention on the important issues of our time and not silly distractions like Brexit. Does it really matter if he said stupid woman? She's a woman and some would no doubt say her actions with the brexit negotiations qualify as stupidity. Its hardly the most venomous of insults.
Oh sorry. I must praise the EU more as they only do good.Can you elaborate on how the EU takes the piss? Britain already has opt outs and there was a previous agreement it wouldn’t not be liable for bailing out countries in the eurozone.
Do you feel that she clamped down on the wrongdoings of the rich and powerful in the UK when she was PM?
No. I use the truth. You hate the truth when it involves the EU.No, you used false equivalency.
She pushed for the single market. Correct.Yes, she pushed for the single market and got it through. But you won’t allow that as it includes FOM and you don’t like that at all.
Don’t doubt it but negotiations are continuing. Apparently one of the reasons the EU aren’t budging is they don’t believe parliament will vote through whatever deal is on the table (and there is still a chance of a second referendum).
Oh sorry. I must praise the EU more as they only do good.
She pushed for the single market. Correct.
It then became the EU that you love so much. This was after the days of Maggie. She never asked for the EU to be formed. She wouldn't have given up so much to the EU.
What questions?Why can’t you answer the questions? They were perfectly valid and reasonable.
How could she be critical of the EU after stepping down? She quit political life after stepping down. Nobody was interested in her when the EU was formed. It was a few years after she stepped down that it was formed. And our power wasn't taken away straight away. They kept changing the rules and regulations that took our power away. And they are still doing it to this day.What are you basing this on?
Was she ever critical of the EU after stepping down?
Based on your previous answer, I doubt you’ll bother to answer these either
What questions?
Like what don't I like about the deal? As if I haven't stated it enough so far.
So what do you like about the deal?
How could she be critical of the EU after stepping down? She quit political life after stepping down. Nobody was interested in her when the EU was formed. It was a few years after she stepped down that it was formed. And our power wasn't taken away straight away. They kept changing the rules and regulations that took our power away. And they are still doing it to this day.
So you think Maggie would have given her power to what the EU became?It’s not uncommon for previous PMs to weigh in on political debates.
What power has been taken away since Thatcher was PM?
I don’t see how this is even a point, as others have said, she was a massive europhile.
So what have you asked?WTF - that has nothing to do with what I asked
So you think Maggie would have given her power to what the EU became?
Are you saying that you don't have issues with it?
I will ask you again. What is good about it?
So what have you asked?
She might have been against Brexit. But she wouldn't have handed our power over to the EU.Yeah I do, I think to think otherwise is as misguided as those who use the image of Churchill in Leave ads and imagery.
I think that she would be massively against Brexit if she were still alive.
She might have been against Brexit. But she wouldn't have handed our power over to the EU.
I don't like anything about it. So it is a long list that I don't like. Just look back. Have said lots on the subject. Have said it countless times. Have had enough of saying the same thing over and over again. Like losing the small say we have but still paying for the privilege of being in the EU when we wouldn't be in. And not being allowed to leave until the EU says we can leave. That is what the backstop looks all about.If you’ve read my previous posts, you’ll know I’m dead set against it. I’ve made that explicitly clear. So, what I’m asking is, what don’t you like about May’s deal and how do you think it can be improved? Since our reasons for mutually disliking it must be different.
Answering my questions with more questions isn’t helpful to anyone.
Having rules and regulations that took priority over our own rules and laws for starters.I’ve asked a couple of times exactly what power has been handed over and lost?
She pushed for the SM, and I don’t recall her speaking out about it and the rules attached to it.
Do you believe Mr Corbyn could have done better?
Was it?The price for access to the single market was always going to be adherence to EU rules and regulations. So, Parliament was always going to cede some sovereignty regardless.
I don't like anything about it. So it is a long list that I don't like. Just look back. Have said lots on the subject. Have said it countless times. Have had enough of saying the same thing over and over again. Like losing the small say we have but still paying for the privilege of being in the EU when we wouldn't be in. And not being allowed to leave until the EU says we can leave. That is what the backstop looks all about.
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