Alan Dugdales Moustache
Well-Known Member
Absolutely right. We often reject the views of our own parents in our youth only to embrace what we once rejected later on simply through experiences of life.
Absolutely right. We often reject the views of our own parents in our youth only to embrace what we once rejected later on simply through experiences of life.Correct - it’s a stupid argument.
It’s actually funny because the idiots that make the argument portray the old as irrelevant and not in touch and the youth idyllic. The old of today in the 60’s would no doubt have been banning the bomb, peace rallies and free love. They then become wise and experienced from living life - and migrate towards capitalism
So the same youth who bang on about this is for them will look back in 50 years time and think “god was that really me saying that”
Correct - it’s a stupid argument.
It’s actually funny because the idiots that make the argument portray the old as irrelevant and not in touch and the youth idyllic. The old of today in the 60’s would no doubt have been banning the bomb, peace rallies and free love. They then become wise and experienced from living life - and migrate towards capitalism
So the same youth who bang on about this is for them will look back in 50 years time and think “god was that really me saying that”
Then we need to have a vote every year then. It’s a stupid argument and not even scientifically proven
But surely we should hold back on brexit because in 12 months time there might be a new Labour leader with a different view.Excellent news anyway. Corbyn confirms labour will honour Brexit and commit to the will of the people
Excellent news anyway. Corbyn confirms labour will honour Brexit and commit to the will of the people
Excellent news anyway. Corbyn confirms labour will honour Brexit and commit to the will of the people
I didn’t say that. If you just rely on who has or has not changed their minds, you are not taking into account new voters or older ones dying. You have to include their intentions, and write off those in the age group with the most deaths.
You think the electorate as a whole hasn't aged?
You think the electorate hasn't become more conservative in their views as they've aged?
Excellent news anyway. Corbyn confirms labour will honour Brexit and commit to the will of the people
That interview yesterday will be the end of him.
I said on this thread a long time ago Europe will be the issues that finishes him.
The centrists are determined to subvert the result of this vote. I'm not sure which I find more disturbing, their total lack of respect for democracy or the incumbent government still lacking a rudimentary understanding of how a no deal will work.
Subvert is not quite correct. Ask the question again, and if the majority goes for remain, they have not subverted it as it is the majority wish. People are certainly questioning the decision though.
It doesn't sit comfortably with me.
Holding another referendum before the first one has been implemented.
I've said before, I've heard some very well reasoned arguments for the second referendum but none persuasive enough to make me support the idea.
I know that puts me at odds with some of the contributors on here who I'm on the same page as with regard to so much else of this debate.
Yes, but if you carry it out and it crashes, the costs will be immense. In that respect I am conservative ( small c ).
Yes, but if you carry it out and it crashes, the costs will be immense. In that respect I am conservative ( small c ).
LOLs
Bright young things - remember they are the future
Cornyn said he would stand by the result of referendum.
It is possible to support him but not agree with Brexit.
In the same way it is possible to agree with Brexit but support remained May who has also promised to honour the result of the referendum
Come off it - most of the bright young things thought Corbyn was pro Eu as they are so bright they don’t understand socialism
Most?! Nah.
Most of the influx of labour membership that got him to power believed he was pro Europe as they have been indoctrinated to believe that anti Europe is the voice of the right.
So you are against the CBI recommendation to accept the current deal rather than have a second referendum?
Plenty on my social media who seemed to have a grasp of what's going on.
The civil war in Labour has ramped up a notch after the Corbyn interview.
His days are numbered now anyway.
Yeah agreed, this will be the beginning of the end for him.
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I hope so. We need an opposition that can offer remain plus. It is crazy that the government and the opposition are on the same side on Brexit whilst currently more than half the country is not represented.
See I'm look at it another way, for years politicians have lied in their manifestos.
Now people are slating a politician for sticking to what he pledged.
If a Blairite takes over the helm of the Labour party I'll be politically homeless and that's exactly what I expect to happen.
Well yes. The same as millions of others who see unmitigated disaster looming. Apart from the liberals, which party represents them?
Well yes. The same as millions of others who see unmitigated disaster looming. Apart from the liberals, which party represents them?
well a referendum on the final deal with an option to remain was part of the Lib dems 2017 manifesto.
Surely that's who anyone looking to overturn the referendum result should have voted for?
I just don't understand some of the vitriol aimed at Corbyn when he hasn't changed his stance.
Then they vote liberal
Libdems are too small. They had their chance and blew it. They have no chance of power. The election wasn’t about yes or no to Brexit. If there is another election, the parties should put Brexit as point 1 on their manifesto. There ought to be a choice, Brexit or no Brexit.
Yes, but there was more to the election vote than a yes:no to Brexit.
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