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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (105 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Otis

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,331
I know them's the apples, but my daughter tells me pretty much everyone at her school is pretty angry because it is their future that is at stake here. They had a big debate at her school and it was a massive majority that wants to remain.

It's never going to work perfectly of course, because there will always be millions left out of any vote, but she did make a fair point and said that the vote nearly 3 years ago should have included 16 year old's too. 16 is deemed an adult in so many scenario's and any outcome is going to affect them more than most and for an awful lot longer.
 
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Otis

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,332
Johnnythespider said:
Liverish my mom called it, might add him to my death 2019 list
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You sure she didn't say licorice and you just misheard?
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,333
Otis said:
You sure she didn't say licorice and you just misheard?
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I don't think so, although she did once say "it takes all sorts" so you could be right
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,334
Otis said:
I know them's the apples, but my daughter tells me pretty much everyone at her school is pretty angry because it is their future that is at stake here. They had a big debate at her school and it was a massive majority that wants to remain.

It's never going to work perfectly of course, because there will always be millions left out of any vote, but she did make a fair point and said that the vote nearly 3 years ago should have included 16 year old's too. 16 is deemed an adult in so many scenario's and any outcome is going to affect them more than most and for an awful lot longer.
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I suspect that there’s every chance our children will take us back in. Only with the acceptance of the monetary union known as the Euro. Which ultimately will mean all brexit will achieve is joining the Euro in the most complicated, long winded and damaging way possible.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,335
skybluetony176 said:
I suspect that there’s every chance our children will take us back in. Only with the acceptance of the monetary union known as the Euro. Which ultimately will mean all brexit will achieve is joining the Euro in the most complicated, long winded and damaging way possible.
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It’s quite likely that the EU would refuse as some member states wouldn’t want to go through the hassle again
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,336
Otis said:
I know them's the apples, but my daughter tells me pretty much everyone at her school is pretty angry because it is their future that is at stake here. They had a big debate at her school and it was a massive majority that wants to remain.

It's never going to work perfectly of course, because there will always be millions left out of any vote, but she did make a fair point and said that the vote nearly 3 years ago should have included 16 year old's too. 16 is deemed an adult in so many scenario's and any outcome is going to affect them more than most and for an awful lot longer.
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Young people become informed as they grow older and change their minds. The indoctrination of youth is easy
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,337
Grendel said:
Young people become informed as they grow older and change their minds. The indoctrination of youth is easy
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Lol
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,338
Sick Boy said:
Lol
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So the people in the 60’s revolution all remained hippies did they? It’s ckmmon knowledge there is a migration towards capitalism once they see its benefits
 

tommydazzle

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,339
skybluetony176 said:
The situation we’re in is more akin to needing a car to drive to work in the morning when there isn’t another car anywhere for sale and the person selling this one and only car knows we need it.

It doesn’t matter how much we use the “we’ll just walk away bluff” brexit by it’s very nature calls that bluff long before we use it. Merely using it weakens our hand because it’s an admission that we’re bereft on any genuine, practical and workable ideas on how to get through the situation we’ve volunteered ourselves for.
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I think my point is (and I'm playing devil's advocate here) that it wouldn't be a bluff! Remember hard Brexiteers see a golden future outside the EU. There are other cars out there in their world view. I'm not endorsing this but just observing that it seems a weak hand if you take this view.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,340
Grendel said:
So the people in the 60’s revolution all remained hippies did they? It’s ckmmon knowledge there is a migration towards capitalism once they see its benefits
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What a great arguement that’s really relevant.

That’s weird though, I’m sure you’ve gone out before about the EU being a capitalist club
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,341
Grendel said:
So the people in the 60’s revolution all remained hippies did they? It’s ckmmon knowledge there is a migration towards capitalism once they see its benefits
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What's happening in the much of the Western world isn't capitalism.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,342
Now it seems Mr Cable believes Mr Corbyn and Mrs May are in a conspiracy to play for time and mutually have agreed to engineer a hard Brexit
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,343
Grendel said:
Young people become informed as they grow older and change their minds. The indoctrination of youth is easy
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This doesn't really stack up does it, the young have grown up in a country that is part of the EU, it's what they know. Older people hanker after the country they grew up in before the EU, i don't think it has anything to do with i indoctrination.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,344
Johnnythespider said:
This doesn't really stack up does it, the young have grown up in a country that is part of the EU, it's what they know. Older people hanker after the country they grew up in before the EU, i don't think it has anything to do with i indoctrination.
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Anyone under 50 has on that basis
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,345
A humorous Irish slant:
„
A NEW study has shown that the majority of Irish people have no fear about the potential impact to the economy in the wake of a No-Deal Brexit, as they are certain they’ll be too busy laughing their arses off at the Brits.

Fears over how Britain’s disorderly exit from the EU will cause chaos at the border with Northern Ireland, as well as mounting unease over multinational firms’ jitters, have been at the front of economists’ minds since the UK voted to fall into a financial and cultural dark age back in 2016.


However, the average Irish person sees Brexit as ‘a bit of a laugh’, and can’t wait to see the look on the faces of British people when the magnitude of their folly is finally unveiled.

“Our close economic ties to the UK are a problem, but our deep-rooted hatred of them is not,” said one Waterford man we spoke to.

“It has been some craic watching them fuck everything up for the last few years, and it’ll only get better when the plug is pulled and the lights go out. Granted, it could mean that I lose my own job in the next twelve months, and then there’s a big aul worldwide recession, acres of unemployment, blah blah blah… but the Brits, though. I can’t wait to see their faces!”

Meanwhile, EU officials have been warned to practice their straight faces for when Brexit hits, to ensure they don’t break down laughing on camera.“
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,346
Grendel said:
So the people in the 60’s revolution all remained hippies did they? It’s ckmmon knowledge there is a migration towards capitalism once they see its benefits
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I‘m 63 and I am convinced we are better off being tolerant and trying to live together in peace. Capitalism is fine... but there has to be some control of it as otherwise the poor get left behind- no profit where there is no buying power. Money is not everything. Leaving the EU will help the few not the many ( I pinched the end of that line ).
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,347
Johnnythespider said:
This doesn't really stack up does it, the young have grown up in a country that is part of the EU, it's what they know. Older people hanker after the country they grew up in before the EU, i don't think it has anything to do with i indoctrination.
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Don’t be too hard on them, they only want their blue passports back (like they could have had anyway) and bendy bananas back (like they always have been).
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,348
Johnnythespider said:
Were we right to have the first referendum ? Yes or No
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I don’t think so and if it was then it should have been clearer and have needed a higher than 50% win to change the status quo
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,349
skybluetony176 said:
Don’t be too hard on them, they only want their blue passports back (like they could have had anyway) and bendy bananas back (like they always have been).
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The blue passport myth was priceless and typical of the crap spewed out by the tabloids
 
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Astute

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,350
Johnnythespider said:
This doesn't really stack up does it, the young have grown up in a country that is part of the EU, it's what they know. Older people hanker after the country they grew up in before the EU, i don't think it has anything to do with i indoctrination.
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The older people voted to remain in the common market. They then found out about the future plans that became the EU. They were lied to. They know more about politics than those who haven't learned how bad politicians are. They were given the chance to vote leave on something we never had a vote to join.
 

Astute

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,351
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don’t think so and if it was then it should have been clearer and have needed a higher than 50% win to change the status quo
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Wasn't it 52% so higher than 50%
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,352
martcov said:
I‘m 63 and I am convinced we are better off being tolerant and trying to live together in peace. Capitalism is fine... but there has to be some control of it as otherwise the poor get left behind- no profit where there is no buying power. Money is not everything. Leaving the EU will help the few not the many ( I pinched the end of that line ).
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You live in the mostly highly capitalist country in the EU that the whole project was designed to benefit

You are the definition of a cosy right wing capitalist reaping riches at the expense of others.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,353
skybluetony176 said:
Don’t be too hard on them, they only want their blue passports back (like they could have had anyway) and bendy bananas back (like they always have been).
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Bloody foreigners coming over here, staining our passports red... I just want my bananas from Kent before the foreigners eat them all...
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,354
Grendel said:
You live in the mostly highly capitalist country in the EU that the whole project was designed to benefit

You are the definition of a cosy right wing capitalist reaping riches at the expense of others.
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...so is capitalism not admirable now?! You seem to be flip-flopping here.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,355
Sick Boy said:
...so is capitalism not admirable now?! You seem to be flip-flopping here.
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No I find it amusing when someone plays the - I’m interested in the general public line - when all he’s interested in is zero interest rates and couldn’t give a fuck about the misery his ghastly Fourth Reich imposes on the debt ridden mess across Southern Europe
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,356
Astute said:
The older people voted to remain in the common market. They then found out about the future plans that became the EU. They were lied to. They know more about politics than those who haven't learned how bad politicians are. They were given the chance to vote leave on something we never had a vote to join.
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That's not indoctrination though is it, i would agree that the EU of today is very different to the common market.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,357
Grendel said:
Young people become informed as they grow older and change their minds. The indoctrination of youth is easy
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By all sides. Maybe they’re more visionary and less cynical and believe in the best version of themselves and others and adults and life beat that out of them
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,358
Sky Blue Pete said:
By all sides. Maybe they’re more visionary and less cynical and believe in the best version of themselves and others and adults and life beat that out of them
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No they are young without experience and ripe for manipulation
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,359
clint van damme said:
What's happening in the much of the Western world isn't capitalism.
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It’s rampant hard capitalism without limits that is offensive to most normal people who’ve not aged enough to not give a shit about needy people in society
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,360
Grendel said:
No they are young without experience and ripe for manipulation
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What utter nonsense.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,361
Grendel said:
No they are young without experience and ripe for manipulation
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We can agree to differ
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,362
Sick Boy said:
What utter nonsense.
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So they have experience? You think all those who supported Jeremy Corbyn were aware of his anti Eu agenda?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,363
Sky Blue Pete said:
We can agree to differ
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No we can just agree that I’m right
 
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martcov

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,364
Astute said:
Wasn't it 52% so higher than 50%
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50,1% would have won. Which is what he meant.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 17, 2019
  • #29,365
Astute said:
Wasn't it 52% so higher than 50%
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Yep but I’m thinking 60% it’s normally 2/3 majority and in the Church of England handbook it suggests unanimity lol
 
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