rob9872
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Lol ok - I'm 3/4 through a bottle of wine so there's a chance I might push myself over the line later.
Lol ok - I'm 3/4 through a bottle of wine so there's a chance I might push myself over the line later.It won't harm you. I liked one of yours the other week - honestly.
In the EU then net migration into the uk must surely be negative? So actual if we'd be doing the citizens of Poland as an example a favour by allowing them to leave and return to prosperity?
The EU won't do a separate deal with Scotland for the same reason they won't do a deal with the UK, it would lead to every member state demanding new terms. They had enough problems with Wallonia demanding special treatment during the negotiations with Canada.
That's ex banker Farage who declared the brexit vote a victory against the bankers
Have you seen how Poland's economy is doing these days?
Farage was never a banker. So your statement isn't correct I'm afraid
Not well by the look of it. I think net migration will still be our way and not theirs
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Tony did vote for him though.
I don't mind people voting for him. But tony like many other get it wrong. He was a commodities broker in metals such as copper and zinc. yes he had a real job before politics. Never understood why people say he was an ex banker probably because it's a lie your read and it sticks and it's in the papers so it must be true. People can vote who they like btw.
He in my opinion is one of the best politicians of our time. Best speaker certainly but he gets labeled with so much crap it's pathetic and embarrassing. Did you watch life stories with piers Morgan? Was just the tip of the iceberg.
He is an absolute arse and can be very condescending and a total prick and I happy to agree also I get all that but I don't accept he is half the things people label him as and accuse him of. Racist. Facist. He isn't. It's just a liberal voter who hates him mainly because he dares to discuss immigration and border controls that liberals don't like. Of course because farage wants border controls he is then racist. What crap. I believe in border controls and no open borders from the eu like it is now. I'm not a racist thank you. They use to ignore farage to start with then they laughed at him and then they fought him and then they lost. As gandhi once said.
25 years to achieve his impossible political dream. Hate him or love him he is the best at what he does.
P.S no I don't think he represents the working class anti elite but then I don't think anyone in politics does especially the meant to be Labour Party.
Tony did vote for him though.
Yes that's why thousands of British workers are flocking to live in Slovakia and the Czech Republic. The opportunities for wealth and prosperity are so much better.
In the EU then net migration into the uk must surely be negative? So actual if we'd be doing the citizens of Poland as an example a favour by allowing them to leave and return to prosperity?
He was in a coalition which included a far right Italian party in the European parliament. La Lega Nord have openly suggested firing guns at migrants crossing the Med.
The likes of Murdoch and Dacre won the referendum not Farage. It's strange that our country's greatest politician has never actually been a MP.
He is a vile diversive c**t.
He has targeted the lowest common denominator with Brexit and, unfortunately people- 52% of them- bought it.
I would have thought you would be all for Scotland gaining independence and taking back control of their own affairs?
You are dead right.
Farage is 70s National Front. He used the same propaganda poster style as the Nazis with "breaking point". He lies - like Trump. He is slimy and patronising. He wants UKIP to be much harder and concentrated on immigration - National Front all over again.
No. He isn't a great politician. He tried 7 times to become an MP and failed.
He has targeted the lowest common denominator with Brexit and, unfortunately people- 52% of them- bought it. No just because of his crap party, as he claims, but with Murdoch and Johnson and others beating the anti EU drum.
If they did decide to split from the UK I would respect their decision but they wouldn't be taking back control of their own affairs if they remained within the EU.
He was in a coalition which included a far right Italian party in the European parliament. La Lega Nord have openly suggested firing guns at migrants crossing the Med.
The likes of Murdoch and Dacre won the referendum not Farage. It's strange that our country's greatest politician has never actually been a MP.
He is a vile diversive c**t.
He single handedly with ukip got a referendum and changed British politics forever.
If they did decide to split from the UK I would respect their decision but they wouldn't be taking back control of their own affairs if they remained within the EU.
Not quite, much of the groundwork was done by his predecessor James Goldsmith who successfully ousted John Major as Prime Minister in 1997:
Referendum Party - Wikipedia
...a bit like the UK government's white paper that stated that parliament had always been sovereign?
You are dead right.
Farage is 70s National Front. He used the same propaganda poster style as the Nazis with "breaking point". He lies - like Trump. He is slimy and patronising. He wants UKIP to be much harder and concentrated on immigration - National Front all over again.
No. He isn't a great politician. He tried 7 times to become an MP and failed.
He has targeted the lowest common denominator with Brexit and, unfortunately people- 52% of them- bought it. No just because of his crap party, as he claims, but with Murdoch and Johnson and others beating the anti EU drum.
I think you are reading far too much into that.
If I'm honest I don't know very much about Mr Farage - I would guess he has earnt a sizeable fortune from the gravy train he dispises.
He is I would call a pointy stick politician. His stick has one agenda and he points it all day long at the hapless Westminster drones who make up the faceless government. He dresses in funny clothes and has a silly face. Whether he is or not he has some appeal and a roguish charm.
He's noticeable in a sea of mediocrity. Johnson tries but people see through his attempt in the main,
He's similar to Alex Salmond. One aim one mission and all day pointed his stick at twerps like Cameron and Osborne and eventually bullies them into giving way.
Without him they'd be no Brexit so on this issue he has had a triumphant victory. Despite the accusation he is, as the latest catchphrase puts it, he is "one of the establishment" he is exactly the opposite. He, like salmond, danced around the established Westminster zombies and got his way.
He is a sign of the weak political class really. Thatcher and Blair in his hey day would have squashed him. Now he's squashed the government and has pulled the strings.
He was seriously being considered for a knighthood. That would have at least been amusing.
Blair would have had him killed and made it look like suicide.
But he's an EU kind of guy so that's fine.
To fix things long term you would need to totally reform our political system and get rid of first past the post. We swing from one extreme to the other. Whenever proportional representation is discussed its claimed to be unworkable as you rarely get an outright winner but to me thats a strength. You never have one party dictating what is happening. It works in other countries so why not here?What's the answer then?
We've had Labour feck things up, then Cameron took over, now we have Brexit and a divided government.
Who is out there to fix things?
The only EU place he shoud be is the Hague. He is the worst kind of vile creature that has ever been in power in this country and people who slag off Farage whilst still lauding Blair really need a reality check.
He and his leech of a wife have creamed multi millions of pounds off his time of tyranny. I hope that they both rot in hell.
They will not be allowed automatic entry into the EU and certainly not the European currency.
We should call the ridiculous Sturgeons bluff - tell her to call the referendum. We drain money on this wasted country anyway. They want independence - let them do it.
But he's an EU kind of guy so that's fine.
It's a shame the majority of posters on this thread have consistently failed to condemn the xenophobic attacks that have been going on. I was even accused by one of telling lies about it happening to my partner. Says it all.
Who is going to be next to blame when things don't improve outside of the UK? Migrants who came here in the 70s? Would my family have to put up with the no dogs no blacks no Irish signs again?
You are dead right.
Farage is 70s National Front. He used the same propaganda poster style as the Nazis with "breaking point". He lies - like Trump. He is slimy and patronising. He wants UKIP to be much harder and concentrated on immigration - National Front all over again.
No. He isn't a great politician. He tried 7 times to become an MP and failed.
He has targeted the lowest common denominator with Brexit and, unfortunately people- 52% of them- bought it. No just because of his crap party, as he claims, but with Murdoch and Johnson and others beating the anti EU drum.
Agree.
The last thing the EU want is another basket case and that's what an independent Scotland would be. If Scotland was an independent country its economy would be even poorer than Greece. But then I don't believe the Scots would ever vote to leave the Union anyway, they would soon realise how dependent they are on the rest of the Union and especially England and who in their right mind would want to JOIN the crumbling EU? Everyone's desperate to get out!
Prior to the referendum the Scots first voted to remain in the UK. That being the case, the fact that a majority of Scots voted remain becomes irrelevant.
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