The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (46 Viewers)
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Sick Boy
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Great.
Sick Boy
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Successive governments have been Londoncentric, and the elite (including key Brexiteers) have little regard for the normal people.
However amongst everyday workers there’s also a lot of poverty in London, but it overwhelming voted remain, oh yeah, and I’m pretty sure it gets a lot more immigration than a village in southern Leicestershire and other areas of the country. The areas in which a lot of these people live are going to have a lot of poverty too and not enjoy the riches of the capital.
To try and blame it all on the EU is insane, even after Brexit it will continue to be that way. If you think Brexit will correct that then you’re off your head.
Oh yeah and I see you’ve managed to slip I a suggestion that immigration leads to higher crime - nice
Unbelievable.
It is like giving turkeys an option on Christmas.
1. normal Christmas. Die at Christmas.
2. postpone Christmas until Easter. Die at Easter.
3. Vote vegans into government. Not die at all.
Answer:
Fxxk vegan snowflakes. Fxxk project fear. We’re turkeys. It’s Christmas innit.
No. I’m 20 years too old. Apparently. Have a hangover and lost my glasses. I have still to explain that to my missus.
Bias media. Now get a neutral farming expert on. Rees Mogg, Farage or someone from the low tax alliance to say that it’s all Brexit bluster. John Redwood will tell you we’re revving up the economy and everything is great. Wave the trucks in and out and pocket the 39 billion we owe. Look what you can buy with 39 billion... just walk away and no one will notice.
( Advice/ disclaimer: don’t try that with your mortgage or overdraft).
I think Tusk was right on this occasion. The rest about pearly gates you just made up.
Deflection. Was he right in what he said?
The honest EU did what anyone else would do. Listed all possible debts. The UK listed the absolute minimum. A compromise was found and agreed. Problem?
The answer is, your trying your very best to dodge a legitimate question. Was he right in what he said?
Access to the SM and CU, frictionless trade, a place at the table in European matters. Note to Astute: the „table“ is rhetorical.
The vast areas of the country which have been fxxked over have been so by our sovereign parliament. Pretending that we are not sovereign and it is all the EU‘s fault is a really dim way at looking at things.
The EU actually funded poorer areas such as Wales. Who stupidity took your view and voted leave. You can’t make this up.
clint van damme
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Do you really tbink regional investment outside of London will increase and crime will drop post Brexit?
Astute will be reading the BBC bias comments from leavers and not the comments on this from remaniacs and remoaners. Which will prove that the country is overwhelmingly leave. Sorry, I am praising the EU again.
Heard on the radio that crime in Hamburg, where I am now, is falling in most cases. Sexual crimes have gone up though, only very slightly. If you choose to believe the right, I am in a Islamic hell hole.
I think, no proof, just a feeling, crime will continue to rise in the UK ( it is rising ) because of the hatred and frustration caused by the country having been split by Brexit. The economy will take a hit which will add to this. Hope I am wrong.
Await condemnation and infantile attacks.
What a moronic thing to say. Just read it again. Because someone ( me ) says „don’t know“ you say I am a „fucking moron“. „Don’t know“ is a pretty neutral stance, but in Brexit Britain it earns an insulting rebuke. This is how low we are. I blame the people pushing Brexit for creating this climate. If we had not had a referendum we would have been a leading economy in the world and in Europe. The discussion for the Daily Farage readers would have continued about curved bananas etc, and the adults may have been trying to deal with the running problems of the UK.. But, no, nothing is getting done and no one knows where or how this unnecessary journey will end.
What has that got to do with the EU?
clint van damme
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The massive reduction in police numbers doesn't help if you ask me though some say it has no baring, in which case why not do away with police altogether?!
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No place for analysis, it's all about the big vitriolic rant.
clint van damme
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The last WTO analysis of no deal I read estimated 1.6 million less jobs so for whatever reason they're painting an even more worrying picture now.
Otis
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You forgot the tub thumping and wide-eyed frothy mouthing.
skybluetony176
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Project fear again
No-deal Brexit ferry contract scrapped
The funny thing is that it was sold as a brexit contract for a British contractor. The reason why it’s been scrapped. It’s Irish backer has pulled out. We’re really doing our best to mitigate any losses the EU may occur from brexit by dishing out contracts to EU companies where possible. Blue passports, emergency shipping when will we ever take back control.
No-deal Brexit ferry contract scrapped
The funny thing is that it was sold as a brexit contract for a British contractor. The reason why it’s been scrapped. It’s Irish backer has pulled out. We’re really doing our best to mitigate any losses the EU may occur from brexit by dishing out contracts to EU companies where possible. Blue passports, emergency shipping when will we ever take back control.
Astute
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I fully agree.
I always thought that the idea of a debate was to look at the truth and not try to hide the truth. Some people seem to think that if they can win an argument on here that Brexit will be cancelled.
The future of my family depends on what happens....or doesn't happen next month. We are ready to go ahead with a property purchase in France. It includes a business for the wife which would be passed onto the kids in less than 10 years. I want remain as much as anyone else on here. As I have also said many times our plan has always been to tour Europe on retirement. That is planned for 8 years 9 months when our youngest is 18.
But none of this means I can ignore what is going on. I have to look at the whole picture. It will be a massive move for us. I am staying here. I would be flying out frequently. I have to consider much more than in or out. I need to k iw about my pensions. I need to know that my family can stay after investing a fair bit of money in an area of France that isn't doing well as it is where we want to be. I need to know the French economy isn't going to get worse. I am slightly worried on how the EU is going to do with the main countries looking like they are going into recession. But when I mention it on here I am just trying to make everything look bad.....
When you are young making a move isn't such a big thing. You still have many years to put right anything that goes wrong. But when you are at my stage in life you have to consider much more. If my finances take a hit now I won't have time to replace it. And although I have older kids and grandkids I also have children at junior school. I have to plan for the future. I can't put their future or my future at risk.
So yes I do look at everyone and every side closer than most. I don't trust any of them. What have any of them done to gain my trust? It amazes me that in 2019 we can have so many people in many areas of authority that have dodgy backgrounds and a dodgy past.
Ok just to be clear, I was putting forward my thoughts as to the actual spread of the vote. Why do you think the vote panned out like it did geographically and their reasons for voting that way ,?!
Astute
Well-Known Member
The Tories have always been the same and will never change. The problem is that many working class like to see themselves as middle class. Middle and upper class vote Tory whatever. Then you have those who remember what happened each time Labour were in power. This is the Bliar years and the 70's. It is only those that have done badly out of life that really notice how bad the Tories are for the majority.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
I’ve said no 10 times - then asked the response which has no answer
Fair enough. Wrong 10 times then.
The knife crime has largely come following Blairs open door immigration policy. It mainly started with black gang members stabbing other black gang members in London and now it's become a wonderful norm amongst some of the City yoof to carry knives for both crime and protection. Great innit. Globalisation has led to a lot of the poverty and crime andaindeed homelessness ,we've just lost too many manufacturing jobs to the Far East. I agree with Clint on the decimation of the police numbers too.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Funny how NW critics bigotry and irrationality but defends your nonsense time and time again
Nick
Administrator
Brexit Britain
I agree with you about police numbers. The seems to be a correlation: less police, more crime.