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Yeah, the chair of LFI. Assume her reasoning may be similar. Her stance on Israel is obviously at odds with Corbyns pro-Palestine position.
Another labour mp left to join independent group. 40 years she’s been a member wow!
Please... the same Joan Ryan that was filmed at conference saying she could secure £1m to take down some Tory ministers and the Labour leadership to protect Israel’s interests....
The Chukka crew?
I mean Umunna has the political nous of a wet rag so wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve just fuck it up.
Did see an interesting take on how it might play into an early GE though, if you’re up for believing in 4D chess.
The Times and The Mail on Sunday are liberal they certainly are not Tory lapdog press.
People also choose the media they want to purchase
I think Ruth George has more than redressed the balance. Also most labour MPs have been appalled at the Jew hating rhetoric that Berger has been subjected to by a clearly and obvious racist local labour Liverpool membership. The fact Hatton is coming back literally is taking the piss. What next - Adolf Livingstone coming back for a bit of a goose step?
Wrong poll.
Voting intention polls have a load of holes in them, not least the trouble with modelling our FPTP system (see the 2016 US election for a similar issue with constituency based voting systems and national polls).
Consistently the most reliable indicator is the “Who would make the best PM” poll, and yes he’s being beaten to a pulp in that. Not just by May but by don’t know as well.
I mean the fact that he’s in opposition against the worse government in living memory and still can’t get a lead also shows we won’t win. Opposition peaks outside of elections. To win you have to be well well ahead to account for the incumbent bounce the government always gets.
Again, I’m saying this despite the fact I want Labour to win the next GE and I voted for a Corbyn in 2015.
The mail On sunday is explicitly remain and has numerous liberal contributors
Find me an alternative who will do the same policies and poll better and I’ll back them instead. Right now I don’t know who that is. Always been about the policies above the individual for me.
However-Brexit is a massive clusterfuck for people’s political opinions now and when it eventually passes the polls will reflect that. Whoever is Labour leader has to square the circle and please the large numbers of Leave and Remain voters in its base. Do you know how to do that? I’ve no idea.
No one has an answer.... that’s why it’s so easy to pin indecisiveness on him.
Well at least we know where their funding comes from now.Please... the same Joan Ryan that was filmed at conference saying she could secure £1m to take down some Tory ministers and the Labour leadership to protect Israel’s interests....
Well at least we know where their funding comes from now.
Are any MPs who aren’t about to be deselected going to leave? She’d already lost a confidence vote.
He could’ve pitched a second referendum as a ‘once and for all’ vote to settle the issue one way or the other. Going down the general election route was stupid
And then if Remain won? Best of 3? That would literally been the daftest move of all and would have consigned the party into oblivion.
GE route was actually smart because if they were in power their deal reflects them. At the moment he’s expected to have done more for a deal he’s had no part in making.... nor would ever been allowed to.
That is because the course of action has already been defined. Britain as a whole decided to leave the EU...she is carrying put that course of action as best she can. Sadly I think, her heart isnt really in it though. She just wants to get a deal. If she had real conviction she would perhaps be saying "my deal or no deal" to the EU instead? (If she hasn't already)Then if Remain won Parliament has a course of action. If we still wanted to flip off the continent and fuck ourselves over the same applies. It would have provided a lot more clarity than what is happening now. Calling an election at such a crucial time would have resulted in electoral disaster.
Note how May is arguing that her deal is the least bad option, not a good one. She knows it is worse than staying but is going ahead with it anyway.
Yeah, the chair of LFI. Assume her reasoning may be similar. Her stance on Israel is obviously at odds with Corbyns pro-Palestine position.
No she’s quite happy to get elected on a Corbyn manifesto and would rather not stand on her individual merits
Then if Remain won Parliament has a course of action. If we still wanted to flip off the continent and fuck ourselves over the same applies. It would have provided a lot more clarity than what is happening now. Calling an election at such a crucial time would have resulted in electoral disaster.
Note how May is arguing that her deal is the least bad option, not a good one. She knows it is worse than staying but is going ahead with it anyway.
52% is not Britain as a whole.Britain as a whole decided to leave the EU
Oh please...let us not reignite that debate.52% is not Britain as a whole.
Are they pulling out of Turkey as well because of Brexit?I'm sure the uncertainty doesn't help. They've said its not, and as much as I'm pro-remain I'm not sure what incentive they'd have to lie about it.
Most of those who have left were in very safe Labour seats. Antisemitism and bullying in the Labour party has been in the spotlight for ages. Yet the same people always try to find excuses for it.Just call Corbyn a Nazi you’re so close
Most of those who have left were in very safe Labour seats. Antisemitism and bullying in the Labour party has been in the spotlight for ages. Yet the same people always try to find excuses for it.
Now Hatton has rejoined the Labour party after getting kicked out years ago. Corbyn spoke out against him getting removed from the Labour party.
Opinion: Why letting Derek Hatton back into the Labour Party is a big deal
The return of King Rat Derek Hatton marks a new low for Labour
Who is Derek Hatton?
Are we all still happy with the direction the Labour party is going in?
WOW we agree on something.Hatton is scum. Totally corrupt and mercenary. See the watch advert. Not the answer to labour‘s problems or anyone else‘s.
Are they pulling out of Turkey as well because of Brexit?
They don't need a plant in the EU anymore. There is a trade deal between Japan and the EU. The cars they make will become tariff free. They can now make everything in Japan and ship it here and around Europe tax free.
WOW we agree on something.
I just hope people start opening their eyes to what is happening in the Labour party. The more undesirables that join the less people will vote Labour. But some still can't see anything wrong and have an excuse and someone to blame for everything.
If what you are insinuating is right why aren't they opening a plant up in an EU country? Why are they closing the Turkish plant?Yes. No import taxes. No barriers. That’s what they had in the UK, and they saved 6 weeks transport and transport costs. JIT production in the EU, the market where they were selling the cars. Why do you the Japanese are starting to pull out of that great deal?
He is a mate of Corbyn. Corbyn tried to stop him getting kicked out of the Labour party. Now Corbyn is leader he is back in.Yes, well I remember that time and the documentaries about him. The ASDA land deal included. Shiny suits, flash cars, drunkenness and I think he was even a councilor in Skelmersdale at the same time claiming expenses for meetings he was never at. To claim to be a socialist is a mockery of the word. Just a gobby crook. Really surprised at labour even tolerating him.
Probably Galloway back in next.Most of those who have left were in very safe Labour seats. Antisemitism and bullying in the Labour party has been in the spotlight for ages. Yet the same people always try to find excuses for it.
Now Hatton has rejoined the Labour party after getting kicked out years ago. Corbyn spoke out against him getting removed from the Labour party.
Opinion: Why letting Derek Hatton back into the Labour Party is a big deal
The return of King Rat Derek Hatton marks a new low for Labour
Who is Derek Hatton?
Are we all still happy with the direction the Labour party is going in?
Probably Galloway back in next.
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