Ian1779
Well-Known Member
Another 3 MP’s looking for some consultantcy work after they lose their jobs in the next GE.
We’re probably heading toward a general election if more Tories resign the whip, and there’s an indication more could follow.
Odd for tory MPs to be resigning in protest at Corbyns leadership of the Labour party and lack of action over anti-Semitism. Of course it could always be that was total BS and an easy narrative to sell to the media.Meanwhile 3 Torys join TIG.
They're unhappy about Brexit so are the Labour 8. Cancelling or reversing Brexit is their common agenda.Odd for tory MPs to be resigning in protest at Corbyns leadership of the Labour party and lack of action over anti-Semitism. Of course it could always be that was total BS and an easy narrative to sell to the media.
They're unhappy about Brexit so are the Labour 8. Cancelling or reversing Brexit is their common agenda.
We’re probably heading toward a general election if more Tories resign the whip, and there’s an indication more could follow.
And of course shows the lack of sensible debate we have in politics at the moment. Those leaving Labour could have just said they were unhappy with Labour moving back to its roots and becoming increasingly left wing and those leaving the Conservatives could have said they were unhappy with the party becoming ever more right wing.They're unhappy about Brexit so are the Labour 8. Cancelling or reversing Brexit is their common agenda.
There were 28 defectors when the SDP split and what happened to that?And of course shows the lack of sensible debate we have in politics at the moment. Those leaving Labour could have just said they were unhappy with Labour moving back to its roots and becoming increasingly left wing and those leaving the Conservatives could have said they were unhappy with the party becoming ever more right wing.
Instead from day one you're getting BS and spin and none of them having the courage to call a by-election and stand for election on their new platform. All while saying for the sake of democracy there should be another vote on Brexit.
Comical really.
Talk of floor walkers today at PMQs, will need to be a lot of them if this new party isn't going to sink without trace at the next election.
He is a mate of Corbyn. Corbyn tried to stop him getting kicked out of the Labour party. Now Corbyn is leader he is back in.
Kind of backs up what a lot of people are saying.
Talk of floor walkers today at PMQs, will need to be a lot of them if this new party isn't going to sink without trace at the next election.
Is this a long way of saying that there are no problems in the Labour party or with the leadership of Corbyn?And of course shows the lack of sensible debate we have in politics at the moment. Those leaving Labour could have just said they were unhappy with Labour moving back to its roots and becoming increasingly left wing and those leaving the Conservatives could have said they were unhappy with the party becoming ever more right wing.
Instead from day one you're getting BS and spin and none of them having the courage to call a by-election and stand for election on their new platform. All while saying for the sake of democracy there should be another vote on Brexit.
Comical really.
Talk of floor walkers today at PMQs, will need to be a lot of them if this new party isn't going to sink without trace at the next election.
And of course shows the lack of sensible debate we have in politics at the moment. Those leaving Labour could have just said they were unhappy with Labour moving back to its roots and becoming increasingly left wing and those leaving the Conservatives could have said they were unhappy with the party becoming ever more right wing.
Instead from day one you're getting BS and spin and none of them having the courage to call a by-election and stand for election on their new platform. All while saying for the sake of democracy there should be another vote on Brexit.
Comical really.
Talk of floor walkers today at PMQs, will need to be a lot of them if this new party isn't going to sink without trace at the next election.
Is this a long way of saying that there are no problems in the Labour party or with the leadership of Corbyn?
So what do you think of Hatton being welcomed back into the Labour party?
If what you are insinuating is right why aren't they opening a plant up in an EU country? Why are they closing the Turkish plant?
Now they have free access to the EU they will make everything in Japan. We lose jobs building the cars. EU countries lose jobs making parts and more. Yet I sense a bit of celebrating from you.
They are careerists... that’s what they are unhappy about losing. They just want things to stay the same forever... in a world where they make a good life out of doing pretty much nothing.
No it isn't, hence why I didn't write that.Is this a long way of saying that there are no problems in the Labour party or with the leadership of Corbyn?
To be honest until yesterday I'd never heard of the bloke as he was before my time.So what do you think of Hatton being welcomed back into the Labour party?
And of course shows the lack of sensible debate we have in politics at the moment. Those leaving Labour could have just said they were unhappy with Labour moving back to its roots and becoming increasingly left wing and those leaving the Conservatives could have said they were unhappy with the party becoming ever more right wing.
Instead from day one you're getting BS and spin and none of them having the courage to call a by-election and stand for election on their new platform. All while saying for the sake of democracy there should be another vote on Brexit.
Comical really.
Talk of floor walkers today at PMQs, will need to be a lot of them if this new party isn't going to sink without trace at the next election.
Soubrey is far more right wing then many in the Tory party
No it isn't, hence why I didn't write that.
To be honest until yesterday I'd never heard of the bloke as he was before my time.
A bit Faragist from you. TBF they are going to take tremendous stick for this. It would be easier for them to keep their mouths shut and let the country drive into a brick wall.
I don’t need to respond other than politely asking you to examine each of their voting records and then tell me what other conclusion to make from it.
No it isn't, hence why I didn't write that.
To be honest until yesterday I'd never heard of the bloke as he was before my time.
I meant in the terms of „career politicians“ and not doing anything. I haven’t checked their voting records, but they are sticking their necks out and any easy life will be gone. Which is my point...
Except they are not sticking their necks out... there is zero risk to them in reality.
They will never get re-elected in their existing seats. They may target marginals, but it will be unlikely they will make impact, merely hoover up a combination of anti-Tory or anti-Lab votes, and even that they will share with the LD’s.
However all of this posturing will set them up all in 500K a year ‘consultancy roles’ for life. See Clegg, D Miliband etc.
It’s that easy life that is exactly what will happen.
Clegg, Millibrand were far more important and know far more. This lot will lose their seats and have to endure endless crap with no guarantee of a cushy outcome. How many are now keeping quiet about Brexit to see how it pans out? It is madness. We basically have to go through with it to see how bad it is because no one has the balls to pull the brakes on.
But still come out of it very comfortable for the rest of their days.
MP’s like this as the ‘face’ of PV/2nd Ref is the reason it’s died on its arse.
Well, I agree that we needed more convincing MPs to get a people‘s vote. We now have to suffer more damage because there isn’t anyone impressive enough to lead.
For those who are old enough to remember him it is a disastrous move for Labour. And an idiotic move by Corbyn as it gives the media yet more ammunition.No it isn't, hence why I didn't write that.
To be honest until yesterday I'd never heard of the bloke as he was before my time.
Clegg, Millibrand were far more important and know far more. This lot will lose their seats and have to endure endless crap with no guarantee of a cushy outcome. How many are now keeping quiet about Brexit to see how it pans out? It is madness. We basically have to go through with it to see how bad it is because no one has the balls to pull the brakes on.
For those who are old enough to remember him it is a disastrous move for Labour. And an idiotic move by Corbyn as it gives the media yet more ammunition.
Look at those who have top positions in Labour. Some have been with Corbyn for years including an ex that has seemed nothing but hopeless so far. Hatton? Corbyn tried to reverse the decision to get him ousted from Labour. Over 30 years later Corbyn is the leader of the Labour party and Hatton is back. A massive coincidence?On a serious note - do you think that power would lie with Corbyn or a committe?
BTW - I had no idea who Hatton was until yesterday either.
Well if nothing confirms the point further... these MP’s want the public to choose now they are fully informed... yet not one will hold a by-election.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
On a serious note - do you think that power would lie with Corbyn or a committe?
BTW - I had no idea who Hatton was until yesterday either.
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