shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Don’t go upstairs in the Flying Standard on a Friday night.
Get some Ricin in especially.
Sounds like when we walked into a pub in Bristol and there were lads sat in there drinking soft drinks playing board games at 11pm on a Saturday
Luckily we don’t have to rely on your experience. As we have data.
It’s immigration from outside the EU you want to stop. You know, that thing all the leading Brexiteers have been promising to increase to prove they aren’t racist.
Don’t go upstairs in the Flying Standard on a Friday night.
Wherabouts on that chart does it measure Romanians?
So you answer a point I made specifically about Romanians by quoting figures for the EEA as a whole?They come under EEA. Which I know you well know.
Just been on phone to a mate in Labour party. He is seriously considering leaving and not returning until Corbyn is gone and major things change. Corbyn is calling for that IS bride to be allowed back into the UK.
How much further can he be away from what the people of the UK really want? Does he ever think before he speaks?
Just been on phone to a mate in Labour party. He is seriously considering leaving and not returning until Corbyn is gone and major things change. Corbyn is calling for that IS bride to be allowed back into the UK.
How much further can he be away from what the people of the UK really want? Does he ever think before he speaks?
So you answer a point I made specifically about Romanians by quoting figures for the EEA as a whole?
Just been on phone to a mate in Labour party. He is seriously considering leaving and not returning until Corbyn is gone and major things change. Corbyn is calling for that IS bride to be allowed back into the UK.
How much further can he be away from what the people of the UK really want? Does he ever think before he speaks?
What I want is a party the masses can trust. But it isn't happening. All we are hearing about is antisemitism, bullying, Hatton and his past and now Corbyn sticking his nose in something he doesn't have to.Didn’t realise you were in receipt of the whole nations opinion?
FWIW - I am torn on the matter. Part of me thinks that she should never return to the UK for choosing to leave to go there. Another part thinks that she was a kid - and kids make fucking stupid choices. If you let her back into the UK - charge her, detain her, use her to educate others on the danger signs of extremism and being radicalised. She’ll know more than most ‘experts’. This is obviously based on her being willing to make amends for going.
I’m not sure what the real answer is, but I don’t think you have the call on the nations true thoughts either.
Perhaps your mate is hankering for the Blair days - really didn’t think that was your bag but I’m not so sure.
Luckily we don’t have to rely on your experience. As we have data.
It’s immigration from outside the EU you want to stop. You know, that thing all the leading Brexiteers have been promising to increase to prove they aren’t racist.
What I want is a party the masses can trust. But it isn't happening. All we are hearing about is antisemitism, bullying, Hatton and his past and now Corbyn sticking his nose in something he doesn't have to.
I read somewhere where the British public had been asked if she should be allowed back. All white British said no. Most Muslims said no although some had sympathy for her and were not sure. But once they found out that she had shown no remorse all Muslims asked said she shouldn't be allowed back into the UK.
Hankering for the Bliar years? I take it you ignore or have forgotten everything I have said on the subject. Either that or you are just trying to muddy the waters.
So you answer a point I made specifically about Romanians by quoting figures for the EEA as a whole?
Migration watch. Well what a surprise. Totally unreliable right wing source quoted by the Telegraph.
Oh dear indeed.
Rees Mogg was also calling for her return on question time last week.
Migration watch. Well what a surprise. Totally unreliable right wing source quoted by the Telegraph.
Oh dear indeed.
Not to mention it’s five years old. There’s an article next to it that says the earth is flat.
0.08%? Would love to know how you got to that amount.I’m well aware of your opinion on Blair - we share it. You say that you want a party that can be trusted en made, but seem ignorant of the fact that the establishment are so desperate in trying to retain control that will go to any measure at all, which includes misleading the general public.
Is Corbyn uncriticisable? Not at all, nor is he perfect. No one is saying that.
But take the anti-semitism issue. Of all reported cases this accounts for approx 0.08% of Lab members. Is that what we now class as endemic? I’ve explained on here before that there needs to be some education on this for all - especially given the confusion between Zionism and Judaism. That way you differentiate it between ignorance which can be corrected - and pure anti-Semitic words and actions.
Can you put your hand on your heart and truthfully say you think Corbyn is an anti-Semite?
I clearly don’t have the background knowledge of life experience on Corbyn and the left wing in general. But what I have experienced is 20 years as an adult of our society going to shit in the name of neo-liberalism, and us all being told we should blindly accept it, because the notion of socialism is extreme and dangerous.
So the minimum hundreds that left the UK to join ISIS should all be let back in? Because Corbyn would be for it.He is right. In this case. She is a British citizen. She should be allowed home and put on trial. If she has done something criminal then she should be punished. That’s how Britain works. Or rather did work.
So the minimum hundreds that left the UK to join ISIS should all be let back in? Because Corbyn would be for it.
Would the UK still be safe?
Freedom of choice demands that individuals take responsibility for their own choices.So what would you do with them then? Do you not think that we should take responsibility for our own citizens and make them face the law?
If other countries’ citizens were committing horrendous crimes in Britain and their country of citizenship/origin was refusing to take them back, would you think that was right?
If someone committed a crime in the UK it is usual to sentence them in the UK.So what would you do with them then? Do you not think that we should take responsibility for our own citizens and make them face the law?
If other countries’ citizens were committing horrendous crimes in Britain and their country of citizenship/origin was refusing to take them back, would you think that was right?
If someone committed a crime in the UK it is usual to sentence them in the UK.
So are we to try and sentence people who have done nothing wrong that we can prove in the UK?
With human rights on their side many would be found not guilty or get short sentences then be released onto the street. How are we supposed to keep an eye on them all?
Think the figures I saw were about 350 have already come back with another 350 not accounted forSo the minimum hundreds that left the UK to join ISIS should all be let back in? Because Corbyn would be for it.
Would the UK still be safe?
We believe in the rule of evidence facts and lawFreedom of choice demands that individuals take responsibility for their own choices.
The 'she was only 15' argument doesn't wash with me. There is arguably 1yr or 1minute between 'I want to be a soldier' or not. She seems to think soldiers make their choice & are fair targets. She has made hers & is likewise in my opinion.
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Freedom of choice demands that individuals take responsibility for their own choices.
The 'she was only 15' argument doesn't wash with me. There is arguably 1yr or 1minute between 'I want to be a soldier' or not. She seems to think soldiers make their choice & are fair targets. She has made hers & is likewise in my opinion.
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I think the answer being implied is that if the perpetrator believes the 15 year old has consented then there is no crime. It’s just disastrous it really isShould men who have sex with 15 year olds go to prison?
We do. The evidence she went to support IS is there, she has stated that soldiers are fair game on camera. Sadly the law might yet turn out to be the weak link.We believe in the rule of evidence facts and law
We do. The evidence she went to support IS is there, she has stated that soldiers are fair game on camera. Sadly the law might yet turn out to be the weak link.
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Some 15 year olds look and act more mature than some 25 year olds. You can't say yes or no without knowing any details. That is why there are different rules for those 13 or under.Should men who have sex with 15 year olds go to prison?
How much further can he be away from what the people of the UK really want? Does he ever think before he speaks?
The due process of law is the strength not the weak link. Decisions based on newspaper hype or statements from tossers like Farage is not the way the UK law is carried out ( or shouldn’t be ).
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