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I've given up. We'll know judgement day has arrived, because it's the only way one of Astute or mart will get to have the last word!
I've given up. We'll know judgement day has arrived, because it's the only way one of Astute or mart will get to have the last word!Haha. You realise you're just egging then on. This is a juggernaut rolling downhill with no brakes.
Covered myself?He was appointed to run the civil service.
What you say about handing each other jobs is correct and is why they have pulled them up on the Selmayr appointment.
The complaint is that they didn’t follow procedure to appoint him, so they can hardly sack him without following procedure.
You are wrong that all leaders want to take their power back.
Merkel and Macron have just said the opposite. They want to reform the EU to make it stronger, not to split it.
I have made no excuses for anything, just pointed out facts.
You’ve covered yourself by saying it would be better for us in, but if it collapses it would be better for us out.
Whatever happens you will say you were right as usual.
Judgement day is a long way away. There are many things to be fudged before a decision is made on how a decision is made.I've given up. We'll know judgement day has arrived, because it's the only way one of Astute or mart will get to have the last word!
Covered myself?
No I am being truthful.
Yes Merkel and Macron want to make it stronger. They want a part on the decision making. As you k ow it is down to those who are not leaders of the countries in the EU and who pay for the project. Or would you like to explain how they could make it stronger without getting rid of those who make the decisions.
Not following procedure and giving a job to someone that shouldn't have got it means nothing? The procedures should be followed to replace him. It should be done within the rules. It should be done within the regulations. It should be done within the law. And it hasn't been. So legally he hasn't got a leg to stand on. You know this.
God I hope not, the sooner the four horsemen rock up, the better!Judgement day is a long way away
Could they argue that the job should be his when he engineered it with Juncker?Neither you nor I know what his lawyers would argue if it comes to an employment court.
But, if he is dismissed it must be done according to the procedures.
Maybe he will be allowed to reapply for his own job. Who knows?
Wouldn't surprise me if it was still going on in a couple of years.God I hope not, the sooner the four horsemen rock up, the better!
Could they argue that the job should be his when he engineered it with Juncker?
He should go. And you agreed he should go. Otherwise the faith in the way the EU is run will continue to diminish.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was still going on in a couple of years.
We want a good deal. The EU doesn't want us to have a good deal. And MP's won't allow us to leave without a deal.
And the longer it goes on for the more chance we will stay in as we are now.
As long as the horses aren't racing.God I hope not, the sooner the four horsemen rock up, the better!
A third wants to leave. A third wants to remain. And the other third can't make their mind up. Their vote is fluid depending on what is happening that week/month. Scare stories work for some but make others go the other way.Half of us don’t want to leave and that is reflected in parliament.
A third wants to leave. A third wants to remain. And the other third can't make their mind up. Their vote is fluid depending on what is happening that week/month. Scare stories work for some but make others go the other way.
What we need is something impossible. MP's and all those involved to be truthful to us. All of them get together and put a list together. A list of things that would and wouldn't happen if we leave. A list of things that would and wouldn't happen if we remain. A list of things that might happen. A list of benefits and drawbacks on both. Cut out the lies. Cut out the scare stories. Let people decide on reality and not the present bullshit.
You've been awake all night to state the bleeding obvious once again. You need a life . Clearly this is all you do.Difficult to predict the future, but we know the present in the EU.
We do know that any friction caused by regulatory differences and tariffs will be detrimental as they involve more costs and less efficiency.
We don’t know how long it will take and how beneficial it will be to make new trade deals. We do know that it won’t be as quick or easy as promised. We should realise by now that negotiating trade deals from the position of a distressed trading partner is a poor negotiating stance.
Based on that, remaining is the safer option.
It is difficult to predict the future whatever happens.Difficult to predict the future, but we know the present in the EU.
We do know that any friction caused by regulatory differences and tariffs will be detrimental as they involve more costs and less efficiency.
We don’t know how long it will take and how beneficial it will be to make new trade deals. We do know that it won’t be as quick or easy as promised. We should realise by now that negotiating trade deals from the position of a distressed trading partner is a poor negotiating stance.
Based on that, remaining is the safer option.
Sure I remember the government saying the mess they made of this wouldn't cost the taxpayer any money.And the incompetence in the name of brexit continues
Government pays £33m over Brexit ferry case
Project reality
‘Dangerous’ part-privatisation of probation services costing taxpayers extra £467m, watchdog findsThe number of criminals being sent back to prison for violating licence conditions has skyrocketed since the government’s “dangerous” part-privatisation of probation services, a watchdog has found.
The National Audit Office (NAO) said that while the 2014 Transforming Rehabilitation programme aimed to reduce reoffending and save money, the government has been forced to bail out failing companies and cancel contracts early in moves expected to cost taxpayers more than £467m.
Sir Amyas Morse, head of Whitehall’s spending watchdog, said the Ministry of Justice had “set itself up to fail” as Chris Grayling ignored warnings over contracting out the supervision of criminals.
Everytime any of the idiots open their mouths it seems to cost the taxpayer money...regardless of which party is in Govt.Sure I remember the government saying the mess they made of this wouldn't cost the taxpayer any money.
You do say some stupid things
You do say some stupid things
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So you doubt the British Govt have had zero contact or discussion with foreign authorities about protecting Brits living abroad? You doubt the Spanish had willing ears too given the spending power of saiid Brits?The Spanish government are taking steps to protect the rights of British citizens. We’re supposed to be taking back control. This is only happening because we’re out of control.
So you doubt the British Govt have had zero contact or discussion with foreign authorities about protecting Brits living abroad? You doubt the Spanish had willing ears too given the spending power of saiid Brits?
Do you doubt it because it is announced by the Spanish? Or because the British Govt hasn't contacted you personally to explain that, just like some of us have repeatedly told you since even before any Brexit negotiations even started, lots happens behind the scenes.
I am surprised, given your instant suspicion that any negative news like Honda & Nissan & JL is a direct result of Brexit, that you aren't shouting JL latest announcement from the rooftops as the same!
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We wanted to secure the futures of everyone living here that had come from other EU countries. But the EU refused to talk about it until the next part of the talks.The Spanish government are taking steps to protect the rights of British citizens. We’re supposed to be taking back control. This is only happening because we’re out of control.
We wanted to secure the futures of everyone living here that had come from other EU countries. But the EU refused to talk about it until the next part of the talks.
We wanted to secure the futures of everyone living here that had come from other EU countries. But the EU refused to talk about it until the next part of the talks.
Why do you try to make something out of nothing all the time?Really? Why do the EU have to talk about it? If we gave everyone the same rights as they have now, what are the EU disputing or why don’t they want that?
Depends what sort of criminal record would deny them status. It is checking their UK record. I wouldn't be against someone with serious crimes since they came to the UK being refused. Just like I would have no sympathy for anyone from the UK committing serious crimes elsewhere in the EU being refused permission to stay there.
Why do you try to make something out of nothing all the time?
We wanted it sorted from the start. But the EU refused.
They don't want all that pension spending to evaporate, self interest.The Spanish government are taking steps to protect the rights of British citizens. We’re supposed to be taking back control. This is only happening because we’re out of control.
Why do you try to make something out of nothing all the time?
We wanted it sorted from the start. But the EU refused.
That’s bending the truth quite a bit. The rights of citizens has been a key bargaining chip of the UK, which shows just how weak the UK’s hand has been.
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