I have a go at the lies.You seem to spend an unhealthy amount of time on this thread attacking remain voters, it’s getting bizarre.
If I were you I’d carry on putting your energy and time into challenging the actual racists on this forum.
Show me where I have been corrected then and the person correcting me was being truthful. There has yet to be evidence shown. Yet I have proven you to be wrong several times now.I am not going through it yet again. You are constantly being corrected. Either you lie or you comprehend badly. Or both. You are not a neutral pillar of integrity. Even if you truly think you are.
Show me where I have been corrected then and the person correcting me was being truthful. There has yet to be evidence shown. Yet I have proven you to be wrong several times now.
I have a go at the lies.
I am as desperate as you for it all to end up well and carry on as usual. But I will not lower myself to lies and backing up those who also want us to remain.
So why no reply to my post but changing the subject as usual. Oh yes he speaks out now against the UK and how thick leave voters are like yourself.
Which I did. And you jump in to defend Tony when nobody else has. Yet you say you don't defend anyone.And you accuse others of telling lies.
I’ve never once called leave voters ‘thick’. I don’t think I’ve ever spoken out against the UK either.
As I said, you’d be better off challenging those actually trying to spread hatred on this forum.
Lies again Mart. How about if I prove you wring about proving you wrong you finally admit to it and stop your lies?No you haven’t proven me wrong. You just made that up.
Latest: you said that Juncker and Selmayr rule 500000 people. They don’t. You made that up.
It is easy to „prove people wrong“ by inventing what they say. You keep telling me what I admit to and how I say things which are wrong. Only problem is that you have invented it by putting words into my mouth that I didn’t say. The last couple of days on this thread show you doing it.
No idea what you get out of it.
Which I did. And you jump in to defend Tony when nobody else has. Yet you say you don't defend anyone.
Show me them then. And with evidence instead of your normal allegations. Like when you said I lied when saying more people had left Romania than Ireland at any time since the potato famine. Even when all the evidence was in front of you all we got was you trying to fabricate evidence.I’m pointing your own lies after you’ve claimed to hate liars.
Show me them then. And with evidence instead of your normal allegations. Like when you said I lied when saying more people had left Romania than Ireland at any time since the potato famine. Even when all the evidence was in front of you all we got was you trying to fabricate evidence.
You pointed nothing truthful out. As usual.I just pointed them out to you zzzzzzzz
Lies again Mart. How about if I prove you wring about proving you wrong you finally admit to it and stop your lies?
The younger voters voted remain. They know nothing else other than being in the EU. A cheaper mobile bill is important. And queuing up at a border is a disaster. And they are very intelligent because they were able to go to university where older voters had no choice but to go to work before they even left school.
Look at how many waste years and thousands taking studies that will never help. Not going to uni doesn't make someone thick. My eldest daughter didn't go to uni. She did the same as me. She worked and took qualifications that are work related whilst working. She is the youngest in her section but is in charge of it all. There was lots of disgruntled people until they saw change for the best. She is the only one that didn't go to uni. But if we check out intelligence the way you think shows it the best she would be considered to be thick.
There were some that voted whatever because of whatever. Yes we know. That doesn't mean anyone who voted either way is thick. People are not thick because they didn't vote the same way as us.
So most voted leave because they are lazy? That is a lazy statement.
So nobody voted remain because they were told that millions of jobs would be lost, millions of gravestones being mentioned and house prices would plummet if we voted leave. And this was echoed by those who should have known better.
You love to put your side to everything and ignore everything else. That is why you have a problem understanding what and why we are where we are now. Just like you tried to say it was my fault that house prices are too high and final salary pensions are about finished. You blamed my generation and the Tories for everything. But then went quiet when you found out who was really to blame for the pensions.
It is easy to blame what you don't like for anything. But it takes intelligence to think for yourself.
The “hard data” regarding intelligence is in itself a lazy assumption. A 22 year old with a third at Northampton in David Beckham studies would be defined as a better educated than a CEO of a major business who hasn’t studied Becks.
So why was education the strongest predictor of how you voted?
Because the young are the highest percentage of “educated” population and are as thick as pigshit due to the dumbing down of degrees to make the dumb believe they have a brain. The same dumbo intellectuals voted for Corbyn and Remain as they assumed they were one of the same.
Because the young are the highest percentage of “educated” population and are as thick as pigshit due to the dumbing down of degrees to make the dumb believe they have a brain. The same dumbo intellectuals voted for Corbyn and Remain as they assumed they were one of the same.
Another factor that is swept under the carpet when considering education levels is how much the % of degree holders has increased. Very few people went to uni when I did (before that kink in the late 70's). Now its probably at least 1 in 3, the graph is from 2009.
This educational levels fallacy is used by Remoaners to slur older remain voters.
And of course it therefore could be argued that it was indeed the 'uneducated' that took us into what became the EU in the first place!
Another factor that is swept under the carpet when considering education levels is how much the % of degree holders has increased. Very few people went to uni when I did (before that kink in the late 70's). Now its probably at least 1 in 3, the graph is from 2009.
This educational levels fallacy is used by Remoaners to slur older remain voters.
Hahaha. Do you say these things for fun ?Back to insults. As usual. Do you seriously think that voting leave would have had made intellectuals less dumbo? Would you say that, up until this point of time, voting leave has been shown to be the cleverer decision? Quite frankly Corbyn comes across as a better person than Rees Mogg, BoJo, Redwood, Davis and the scum Farage. I wouldn’t like to be on the same side of history as them. Your dumbo intellectuals seem to have made better choices than yourself.
Let's weigh up the evidence. We know that most voted Leave because of immigration-there is no disputing that. We also know for a whole list of reasons why leaving the EU doesn't fix concerns about immigration and that it was already in our power to send EU migrants back if they didn't find work. To be aware of that and still cite it as a reason for leaving makes no sense. To not question the Daily Mail headlines or posh men in suits (Farage, Gove, Johnson, JRM) is where the problem starts. I never said that people who don't go to uni are thick. But can you explain why education was the strongest predictor of how people voted?
I didn't vote Remain for any of the reasons you describe. Most did so because of the economy, and those concerns are bearing fruit now and will be worse if we go out with no deal. I lived in Scotland during their own referendum (and got to vote). Their arguments for leaving were very similar to the Brexiteers and played on the lowest common denominator being won over by patriotic bullshit. I didn't need a politician to tell me the facts or how to vote. I looked at the balance of evidence, did some research and came to a conclusion. Despite hating Britain I curiously voted to keep it intact.
Your last paragraph again shows how poor your comprehension is. I never spoke about pensions, you brought it up as a straw man and are sticking to it. I did however speak about:
And let's take your pensions argument at face value and accept that Gordon Brown single-handedly wrecked the pensions system. Which generation is he from?
- Disastrous foreign policies under the Labour and Tory governments
- A 'who gives a fuck' attitude to the environment
- Crashing the economy with right wing economics because Jerry's probably a Trot
- My generation becoming the first to be worse off than the generation before
- Getting charged to pursue a degree in a shortage subject and then getting charged to train to teach a shortage subject
Hahaha. Do you say these things for fun ?
If you haven’t seen it it’s worth watching on C4+1 or catch up if it’s available. Part 2 is being aired tomorrow night.
You are one of the thickest people on this forum, gobbing off the usual deranged nonsense on an hourly basis in order to try and convince an unimpressed public that you know everything about everything . Get out in the fresh air once in a while you sad pensioner.You are too dim to notice that the people I insult are the thick ones, the ones who insult me or the ones who insult others. You fulfill all categories dumbfxxk.
I’m just gonna say it: I’ve still yet to see an intelligent Brexiteer.
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