It is allowed. Maybe I do.
So you agree with me then?
I have questioned this from the start.the fact she's held on to her job this long suggests she may be more Machiavellian than we all gave her credit for.
Either that or no one else wanted the job.
Which is what I have been saying for ages. Yet I was supposed to be anti Labour for saying so.The pig headedness will cost him
Here we go again.
Brexit fraudulent on one side only. And guess what side that was.
Yes SB.
Keep to the truth and I won't have a problem with you. Isn't it strange how we want the same thing yet we see what is happening so differently.
Of course it is allowed.It is allowed. Maybe I do.
I have questioned this from the start.
Why put a remainer in charge of leaving?
As we all know I was saying about her playing delay tactics up to the end. The next May deal vote we will no doubt get will have run the clock down. Yet whatever happens the Tories will be shown to the public that they aimed for the wish of the majority even if it wasn't their truthful aim.
And now she has the official Labour view of needing to stay in the EU there will be much less of an obstacle of us remaining or having close ties to the EU if we leave in name. Most MP's want to remain.
I still can't understand how some think May is thick after she has become PM.
Maybe.Anyone think that Mays deal will go through now that no deal is off the table?
I haven't implied anything. You keep alleging differently though.Leave. Both sides have done things wrong. But you cannot say they are equal. The leave campaign is still being investigated and there are serious questions still coming out. There is no comparison in the gravity of the wrong doings.
If both sides were equally involved in criminal activities though, as you imply, then the referendum was even more flawed.
That alone justifies a people’s vote.
So what is that then?Based on your past posting history... no. ;-)
Name a viable remainer. Something could be said against all of them. But none of this doesn't mean that May is or isn't after any certain solution to this shitstorm.Go on then, name a viable leaver who’d have had support of the party?
Of course it is allowed.
But it is the same views I have had for ages that you and others have been telling me that are wrong. So yes I was slightly surprised.
I haven't implied anything. You keep alleging differently though.
Both sides did wrong. Both sides lied. Both sides spent too much money. Yet I am only supposed to think of one side like yourself.
Name a viable remainer. Something could be said against all of them. But none of this doesn't mean that May is or isn't after any certain solution to this shitstorm.
So what is that then?
Isn't it strange how you now agree with me when my views haven't changed. Yet you still try and make me out to be wrong or biased.
I don't trust the remainers in politics. I don't trust the leavers in politics. I try and sift through the bullshit and work out what is going on. You look at the leavers only. That is why you only ever get half of the story.
A lot of the time we agree actually, or at least are not totally against each other, but you misunderstand because you jump in too quickly.
We are not far off each in the case of the latest Farage claim. If he has done a deal with a neo fascist party in Italy to block a possible request from the UK government for an extension of article 50, then he is literally a traitor.
All these older people equating events to WWII and saying remainers are traitors, must really rethink the situation. The EU was set up after the war to prevent things like fascism ever taking root in Europe again. Farage has claimed he wants to break the EU, and is now working with neo fascists to do just that. The UK was on the side that defeated fascism. Where are the WWII comparisons from leavers on Farage‘s latest claim?
I think youngsters should definitely start reading up on the growth of fascism through populism instead of watching Dunkirk.
Maybe.
Surprised the government don't see it as an affront to democracy to keep asking the same question until they get the vote they want, mind...
I agree but for two things.Maybe.
Surprised the government don't see it as an affront to democracy to keep asking the same question until they get the vote they want, mind...
I agree but for two things.
Most MP's don't want Brexit.
Nothing else is on the table that a majority is in favour of.
There’s very little chance of half of the coalition in Italy being persuaded by Farage to veto the article 50 extension.
It has to be a second vote now, surely? Given parliament are heading for their third, they're losing their own argument about not accepting results.IMO a second referendum would see the UK vote to remain. At this rate I now think it could happen.
IMO a second referendum would see the UK vote to remain. At this rate I now think it could happen.
Seems like too many are happy for the UK to be bullied (at worst...pressured at best) into holding another referendum - just like other nations before us, so that we vote "correctly"!Here we go again.
Brexit fraudulent on one side only. And guess what side that was.
Seems like too many are happy to make nonsensical sweeping statement with no basis in reality.Seems like too many are happy for the UK to be bullied (at worst...pressured at best) into holding another referendum - just like other nations before us, so that we vote "correctly"!
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Also wonder if her memoirs would be worth reading, or if they'd just bang on about being strong and stable.
Seems like too many are happy for the UK to be bullied (at worst...pressured at best) into holding another referendum - just like other nations before us, so that we vote "correctly"!
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And that would be?Seems like too many are happy to make nonsensical sweeping statement with no basis in reality.
As a true patriot, I want what's best for my country.
They are as bad as each other.I was thinking that those who accused the EU of doing the same thing have been awfully quiet about it going on in their own country. Even if she loses a 3rd time I think she’d still try and hang onto power, it’s quite extraordinary
Having gone down the referendum route and tried to act on it (I agree, btw, that there were different approaches to the rhetoric post referendum) they probably need some kind of people's ratification however.And a second referendum? No chance. If the government want to cancel Brexit then they should do it. The reality is after 3 years of social media propaganda and lies the electorate is even less educated than last time
We agreed a deal?Wrong as usual. We have agreed a deal with the EU. We even agreed to the back stop in the beginning until the DUP piped up. The bullying is coming from within the Tory party and from a handful of Unionists.
But blame the EU, it is easier than facing reality.
One might use the word 'betrayal.'Maybe.
Surprised the government don't see it as an affront to democracy to keep asking the same question until they get the vote they want, mind...
There is no majority in any direction from anyone who disagrees with May.Having gone down the referendum route and tried to act on it (I agree, btw, that there were different approaches to the rhetoric post referendum) they probably need some kind of people's ratification however.
It's not like May wants to include parliament after all, so we're not exactly heading for consensus, regardless! Shed going down a path of shambolic division.
My view, which differs from others, is accept parliament is sovereign and has rejected the deal to leave, along with the option of leaving with no deal.And that would be?
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