SkyBlueDom26
Well-Known Member
So then, lets put it to the people with-
No Deal / May's deal
We've had the one on staying or leaving already
Not on no deal or May’s deal, or on what we now know about Brexit.
Sky reported it 30 minutes before statement made in the House
So then, lets put it to the people with-
No Deal / May's deal
We've had the one on staying or leaving already
So leave out the majority of voters who now want remain and call it a democratic vote? No mate. That ain’t going to happen.
So then, lets put it to the people with-
No Deal / May's deal
We've had the one on staying or leaving already
So leave out the majority of voters who now want remain and call it a democratic vote? No mate. That ain’t going to happen.
We're leaving the EUAre you joining Farage’s ramblers? Get your walking boots out and show your Brexit commitment. Nige will be in the pub having a drink to you.
Prove to me that the majority of voters want to 'remain'.....
I don't get how people can't just accept a result, if leave lost would all the people who voted leave be constantly moaning or just take the result on the chin?
We're leaving the EU
So in a year if the mood changes and the majority want to leave (I’m not convinced there’s a majority to remain now) then we’d have another go would we?
No we wouldn’t. This is the vote on Brexit. That’s it. No one can claim that we didn’t know what we were voting for after the people’s vote. Hopefully there will be less criminal activity and the campaign will be better regulated. The last vote was not on what we have now on the table. May‘s deal didn’t exist and it was claimed we would be leaving with a great deal sailing into a glorious sunset. Floundering on a rock whilst still in the Harbour was not an option at the time.
You also have to note that immigration is a significant issue with remainders. Has pretty consistently been around 40 % that say it was too high and needed various levels of reduction.Leavers when asked cited immigration and sovereignty as the two main reasons for voting leave. Wanting less foreigners suggests you don’t like having too many foreigners around. Seeing as leavers also blame foreigners for everything from crime to potholes, lack of affordable housing etc, I get the impression that a dislike of foreigners was a strong motivation for leave voters.
Hilarious so you’re afraid of further votes.
Why what are you frightened of?
So you’d run the manifesto on the clear knowledge we will never have an opportunity to leave ever again?
How does this work if no one option gets more than 50%?May‘s deal with an amendment that it has to be ratified by the people, against a remain option and a no deal option.
I am not afraid of further votes. I want a vote on something we can see and what we know a bit more about. I don’t know whether there will ever be another vote, but I would ask the people now in the knowledge that unless anything substantial and unforeseen happens, there would be at least a period of stability. No one wants a ping pong battle of voting back and forth for the foreseeable future. ( I would hope ).
He had also told parliament he would rule after the motion was pulled to block another vote on the same thing. No clairvoyance needed. He could have left it later to be a real dick, but he didn’t. The convention was known since 1604, it isn’t really a surprise.
You also have to note that immigration is a significant issue with remainders. Has pretty consistently been around 40 % that say it was too high and needed various levels of reduction.
Attitudes to immigration compared to other EU populations are not wildly different in the main.
If any other EU country had a leave referendum immigration and sovereignty would also be among the main issues.
Kind of irony that he cites a convention created before we had a civil war to establish parliamentary sovereigntyHe had also told parliament he would rule after the motion was pulled to block another vote on the same thing. No clairvoyance needed. He could have left it later to be a real dick, but he didn’t. The convention was known since 1604, it isn’t really a surprise.
Well that’s exactly what you want until you get your own way
Kind of irony that he cites a convention created before we had a civil war to establish parliamentary sovereignty
How does this work if no one option gets more than 50%?
It's an affront to democracy, to let the people have a vote.Doesn’t that also apply to the previous referendum that kept us in Europe?
Can we not have one that hasn’t been corrupted by foreign powers and rich dickheads?
Let's have a vote to prove it then!Prove to me that the majority of voters want to 'remain'.....
It's an affront to democracy, to let the people have a vote.
Apparently it's also an affront to democracy when parliament takes control of Britain's laws, and votes not to accept deals, or to leave the EU without a deal...
Let's have a vote to prove it then!
Should we have one every year?
So it appears May is going to ask the EU for a short delay, with the option of a 2 year delay.
The short delay would be allow her to put her deal back to Parliament. If it fails, or Bercow says she can't put it to the vote again, then we trigger the 2 year extension and carry on with this clusterfuck.
However, if the EU say no extension, then we're out in just over 10 days.......
I didn't.To compare this vote to the EEC vote is laughable
tbf, I'd still like to know why government could send something through the post saying why the EU was great, but the opportunity was denied the other way.No, just a fair and informed one.
And another fine.
Just in from Sky News:
„The Information Commissioner's Office has fined 'Vote Leave' £40,000 after an investigation found it sent more than 196,000 text messages promoting the aims of the campaign ahead of the 2016 EU referendum and was unable to provide evidence recipients had given their consent“
Oh, for all I know this is waaaayyyy old, but it amused me anyway
Or she goes for a people’s vote and the EU will accept an extension.
And even with this embarrassing walk, the leave campaign still beat the remaoners
But here is the problem I have.It's an affront to democracy, to let the people have a vote.
Apparently it's also an affront to democracy when parliament takes control of Britain's laws, and votes not to accept deals, or to leave the EU without a deal...
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