The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (303 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

Yet you voted for Farage :smuggrin:

Never as an endorsement of policy. Unlike Grendull. What you talking to me for anyway. Haven’t you got to call Grendull a racist a couple of dozen times like you did me. I thought you were balanced?

 

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[Astute]

Oh dear. You’ll be blocking me again next as you always do after you’ve posted that link when you can’t debate the actual point.

The point of you voted for what you are supposedly totally against?

 

[Astute]

Never as an endorsement of policy. Unlike Grendull. What you talking to me for anyway. Haven’t you got to call Grendull a racist a couple of dozen times like you did me. I thought you were balanced?

I still can't get over you voting for what you are supposedly totally against. That would be like me voting Tory because I don't think Corbyn is the person to take Labour forward. And I am better off personally with a Tory government.

 

[skybluetony176]

The point of you voted for what you are supposedly totally against?

I really didn’t. Unless you want to continue to keep ignoring why I voted UKIP on one occasion, which you clearly do. And no, I’m not going to waste my breath telling you again.

 

[skybluetony176]

I still can't get over you voting for what you are supposedly totally against. That would be like me voting Tory because I don't think Corbyn is the person to take Labour forward. And I am better off personally with a Tory government.

Not a neutral then. No one is surprised. Did you see Grendull refer to Farage as “the man”? He’s all gone all ga ga over him.

 

[Astute]

I really didn’t. Unless you want to continue to keep ignoring why I voted UKIP on one occasion, which you clearly do. And no, I’m not going to waste my breath telling you again.

You said a protest vote. But who in their right mind would vote against their morals for a protest vote when there is other choices? And look at the thread. You defended UKIP.

 

[Astute]

Not a neutral then. No one is surprised. Did you see Grendull refer to Farage as “the man”? He’s all gone all ga ga over him.

He is winding you up. But he is also winding you up with a fair bit of truth. We all can see that.

 

[skybluetony176]

You said a protest vote. But who in their right mind would vote against their morals for a protest vote when there is other choices? And look at the thread. You defended UKIP.

I said it was a promotion of the need to reform ahead of Cameron’s negotiations with the EU. I’m under no illusions as to what the EU is and I know it wouldn’t consider reform seriously unless they believed there to be a real chance of a leave vote in the referendum. The only voice I had to influence that is the European elections. If I voted a pro EU party it would have given them the false impression that everything is fine and dandy with no possibility of a leave vote. I always thought there was a chance of leave winning so I voted for the EU’s fears hoping that it would jolt them into reform.

It wasn’t an endorsement of policy, it wasn’t an endorsement of UKIP and it most certainly wasn’t an endorsement of Nigel “the man” Ferage.

I’ve never assumed that people who vote for a party led by Ferage are automatically racists, unlike you and indeed your man Grendull. Same as I don’t assume that anyone who votes Labour is automatically an anti Semite.

I haven’t given Grendull the same treatment you or indeed him gave me, I have remained neutral in that judgment. Now toddle of and call Grendull a racist a couple of dozen times to prove your neutrality.

 

[skybluetony176]

He is winding you up. But he is also winding you up with a fair bit of truth. We all can see that.

He said that a party fronted by Ferage is a racist party and if you vote for a racist party you are a racist. All his words not mine, it’s all in the link he thought he was being clever by posting. If you want to talk truth go and give him the same treatment you gave me. You were both apparently on the same page with that but he’s jumped ship. Stop fawning over him and demonstrate some of the neutrality and unwavering standard you’re constantly trying to make out you have.

 

[tisza]

Don’t have a say? In the Parliament or in the EU Council?

If we leave under any sort of cobbled together tory/lab deal we won't have a say in the Parliament or the council.

 

[Grendel]

He said that a party fronted by Ferage is a racist party and if you vote for a racist party you are a racist. All his words not mine, it’s all in the link he thought he was being clever by posting. If you want to talk truth go and give him the same treatment you gave me. You were both apparently on the same page with that but he’s jumped ship. Stop fawning over him and demonstrate some of the neutrality and unwavering standard you’re constantly trying to make out you have.

Whose Ferage?

 

[skybluetony176]

Whose Ferage?

Sorry. I don’t go around carving his name in trees surrounded by a love heart like you do so the correct spelling of his surname doesn’t come as second nature me. I bet you even practice your signature with Ferage, sorry Farage as your surname like a love sick teenage girl.

 

[Grendel]

Sorry. I don’t go around carving his name in trees surrounded by a love heart like you do so the correct spelling of his surname doesn’t come as second nature me. I bet you even practice your signature with Ferage, sorry Farage as your surname like a love sick teenage girl.

Tony - there’s a game on. Do you even know?

 

[skybluetony176]

Tony - there’s a game on. Do you even know?

The irony of your post is that the post you’re replying to was made just as the players were lining up for the second half. I then put my phone away and concentrated on the second half. Whereas you are ignoring the game to troll me on a thread about brexit.

 

[Grendel]

The irony of your post is that the post you’re replying to was made just as the players were lining up for the second half. I then put my phone away and concentrated on the second half. Whereas you are ignoring the game to troll me on a thread about brexit.

Oh do you were on the match day thread? Must have missed that - need to check

 

[skybluetony176]

Oh do you were on the match day thread? Must have missed that - need to check

That isn’t even English.

 

[martcov]

The man on Alex Jones:

Nigel Farage under fire over ‘antisemitic tropes’ on far-right US talkshow | Nigel Farage | The Guardian

How anyone can vote for this scum is beyond me. He should be polling under 5% and be in the freak category, but he has his own radio show, the support of the tabloid press and you see him constantly on TV. Not to mention his well organised social media presence. His crap is eagerly lapped up by his base of around 25 to 30% of the UK electorate. Being outside of the UK parliament avoids him having to take any responsibility. Puts him in a better position than many MPs.

 

[Sick Boy]

The man on Alex Jones:

Nigel Farage under fire over ‘antisemitic tropes’ on far-right US talkshow | Nigel Farage | The Guardian

How anyone can vote for this scum is beyond me. He should be polling under 5% and be in the freak category, but he has his own radio show, the support of the tabloid press and you see him constantly on TV. Not to mention his well organised social media presence. His crap is eagerly lapped up by his base of around 25 to 30% of the UK electorate. Being outside of the UK parliament avoids him having to take any responsibility. Puts him in a better position than many MPs.

I’ve seen that posted somewhere else on here recently

The whole interview is full of bizarre and outright absurd claims and conspiracy theories by the host and Farage seems to agree and go along with them.

Anyone viewing these interviews and still voting for him, especially as a protest needs to take a look at themselves.

 

[martcov]

I’ve seen that posted somewhere else on here recently

The whole interview is full of bizarre and outright absurd claims and conspiracy theories by the host and Farage seems to agree and go along with them.

Anyone viewing these interviews and still voting for him, especially as a protest needs to take a look at themselves.

Yes.. you’re right. I thought it seemed familiar ;-).

It just shows how low he will stoop to get his views across. It works though, judging by his polling. Exactly the same Modus operandi as his bedfellow Trump. Aim for the lowest common denominator to pick up the most votes.

Hard to use rational argument against emotion. People won’t listen as he is saying what they want to believe.

 

[Ashdown]

There's a huge lead building for the Brexit party Mart.. no one wants to see democracy wiped under the carpet by a load of self interested wet ends !! Rule Britannia !!

 

[dutchman]

There's a huge lead building for the Brexit party Mart.. no one wants to see democracy wiped under the carpet by a load of self interested wet ends !! Rule Britannia !!

It won't make any difference though. May will ignore the results of the euro election the same way she ignored the result of the referendum.

Britain isn't leaving ever, even if 100% of the population vote for it.

 

[Astute]

We are finally doing it. Move to France at the start of July. Taking a bit of a gamble but can't wait any longer. I am still going to be working in England but the rest of my family are moving full time. Will spend 48 days of the first two months there then take it as it comes. If it all goes well will be retiring in just under 4 years and joining my family.

What a joke this has turned into.

 

[SkyblueBazza]

I’ve seen that posted somewhere else on here recently

The whole interview is full of bizarre and outright absurd claims and conspiracy theories by the host and Farage seems to agree and go along with them.

Anyone viewing these interviews and still voting for him, especially as a protest needs to take a look at themselves.

Is there a difference between his & the Labour party's much publicised anti-semitic sympathies?
Are you saying we should all abstain from voting to be safe? Because I don't know about you but I don't have time to delve as deep or as often as some seem to have

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[skybluetony176]

There's a huge lead building for the Brexit party Mart.. no one wants to see democracy wiped under the carpet by a load of self interested wet ends !! Rule Britannia !!

29% according to the poll of polls today. Taken mainly from the conservatives apparently. So who knows how that 29% will work out. Might just mean that neither the brexit Party or Tories will secure enough votes to get an MEP elected in current Tory seats meaning one of the other parties might take it. I suspect that going by the poll of polls labour are going to be even harder hit than the Tories as they are apparently loosing votes to both the leave and remain parties. It’s going to be interesting but I don’t think all things considered that 29% of the votes will equate to 29% of the elected MEP’s. Time will tell.

 

[Grendel]

29% according to the poll of polls today. Taken mainly from the conservatives apparently. So who knows how that 29% will work out. Might just mean that neither the brexit Party or Tories will secure enough votes to get an MEP elected in current Tory seats meaning one of the other parties might take it. I suspect that going by the poll of polls labour are going to be even harder hit than the Tories as they are apparently loosing votes to both the leave and remain parties. It’s going to be interesting but I don’t think all things considered that 29% of the votes will equate to 29% of the elected MEP’s. Time will tell.

This isn’t first past the post Tony

 

[wingy]

We are finally doing it. Move to France at the start of July. Taking a bit of a gamble but can't wait any longer. I am still going to be working in England but the rest of my family are moving full time. Will spend 48 days of the first two months there then take it as it comes. If it all goes well will be retiring in just under 4 years and joining my family.

What a joke this has turned into.

You're confident there will be no issues should a no deal apply?

 

[Sick Boy]

Is there a difference between his & the Labour party's much publicised anti-semitic sympathies?
Are you saying we should all abstain from voting to be safe? Because I don't know about you but I don't have time to delve as deep or as often as some seem to have

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Nowhere have I posted that we shouldn’t vote to be safe.

Have you seen the video?

It’s content are highly concerning and shouldn’t not be taken lightly, the claims in the video are absurd and outright lies and will be fueling extremism. Farage does not bother to correct or challenge any of them, which shows a very disturbing side to him and his wider agenda.

 

[Sick Boy]

We are finally doing it. Move to France at the start of July. Taking a bit of a gamble but can't wait any longer. I am still going to be working in England but the rest of my family are moving full time. Will spend 48 days of the first two months there then take it as it comes. If it all goes well will be retiring in just under 4 years and joining my family.

What a joke this has turned into.

Fair play to you and enjoy, let’s hope you don’t have any problems joining your family full-time in the future though as you will be in visa territory then.

 

[Sick Boy]

You're confident there will be no issues should a no deal apply?

Even with a deal he won’t automatically have the right to move there by the time he plans to. I suppose it’s a rather extreme way of having a peaceful retirement though

 

[skybluetony176]

This isn’t first past the post Tony

I never said it was.

 

[Sick Boy]

I see Farage has described the Brexit Party as a company rather than a political party. Also called for further privatisation of the NHS and to curb efforts to prevent climate change.

 

[Grendel]

Nowhere have I posted that we shouldn’t vote to be safe.

Have you seen the video?

It’s content are highly concerning and shouldn’t not be taken lightly, the claims in the video are absurd and outright lies and will be fueling extremism. Farage does not bother to correct or challenge any of them, which shows a very disturbing side to him and his wider agenda.

He’s a pussy cat compared to the creature than dribbled over Sinn Fein and delighted at the murder of innocent British civilians

 

[Sick Boy]

He’s a pussy cat compared to the creature than dribbled over Sinn Fein and delighted at the murder of innocent British civilians

Have you seen the interview? Here it is again, these people, including Farage need to be stopped. This goes way beyond Brexit.

Do you believe the ‘left’ (presumably anyone left of the far right as seems to have become the case amongst the alt-right) is allied with radical Islam and is trying to ‘flood’ Europe? How about people being arrested in the UK for saying there are 2 genders? Or Facebook censoring criticism of the EU? And that’s not even starting on the anti-Semitic elements and connotations within the interview, I’m shocked you’ve become an admirer of this vile man.

 

[skybluetony176]

I see Farage has described the Brexit Party as a company rather than a political party. Also called for further privatisation of the NHS and to curb efforts to prevent climate change.

The brexit Party is full of candidates who are climate change deniers. The high profile ones especially. When they finally release a manifesto it should be no surprise to see policies and views close to Trumps on climate change in their.

 

[skybluetony176]

He’s a pussy cat compared to the creature than dribbled over Sinn Fein and delighted at the murder of innocent British civilians

You mean people like Claire Fox who doesn’t believe that the government should intervene in getting online terror videos removed? Maybe she sees the beheading of Alan Henning as acceptable viewing.