jordan210
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like most of the FA stuff if you appeal you get a longer ban?
will be interesting to see what happen next time a pen is given for a dive. See if the FA do the same.
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like most of the FA stuff if you appeal you get a longer ban?
will be interesting to see what happen next time a pen is given for a dive. See if the FA do the same.
Happy_Martian
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Or been told to take one for the team. An appeal which would have likely failed could only have extended the sentence.
Sky Blue Pete
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Rethinking this.
Godden did nothing all other players wouldn't have done and we benefitted from it
Do we want to stop all diving? Yes
Can we? No
Can we reduce it? Yes
How? Referees make good decisions and don’t blame players when they are hoodwinked
How? Consistent application of the rules including match bans and fines
What definitely won’t work is indiscriminate application of those rules
Godden did nothing all other players wouldn't have done and we benefitted from it
Do we want to stop all diving? Yes
Can we? No
Can we reduce it? Yes
How? Referees make good decisions and don’t blame players when they are hoodwinked
How? Consistent application of the rules including match bans and fines
What definitely won’t work is indiscriminate application of those rules
richnrg
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I agree with most of your points, except..
So a player deliberately cheats, the (honest) ref misses it, and we blame the ref?
Sky Blue Pete
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Fair enough. Misses it or makes a mistake? Ref didn’t miss this one he saw it clearly and had another angle from his assistant. The deception must be at the level of Paul McKenna
slowpoke
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Attempts to hoodwink referees happen throughout every week.
What needs to happen is VAR needs to be extended throughout the EFL and funded by the FA/EFL expensive yes but there’s certainly enough money in the game to do it.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Don’t clubs pay for it per game?
Frostie
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Tbf Pete, I've not heard a single fan at the game, either ours or Fulham's, who didn't think it was a stonewall penalty at the time. It was a very convincing dive. Not sure we can blame the ref.
Nick
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Which makes you wonder why the players who do very obvious dives get away with it so much?
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Sky Blue Pete
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Doesn’t affect the game. It really is a most bizarre occurrence.
Sky Blue Pete
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Walker or Sheaf I reckon
Nick
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Plenty affect the game.
slowpoke
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Yes I think they do but there will be a collective cost in the interest of fairness the football authorities should fund it. At the moment as we have just seen for example it wasn’t at Cov v Fulham but if either club play a Premier team away in the FA Cup it will be should either be at home it won’t be…crazy.
covboy1987
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Yes and we all will be looking out for incidents over the next couple of weeks of players doing the same and would demand the league to take retrospective action
Grendel
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Why will we?
slowpoke
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I don’t think we will unless perhaps similar happens in our game. but press and tv might, they do anyway I would love something to happen in the premier soon.
fatso
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Sterling is fucked now, the fa have set the standard, let's see if they continue to uphold it!
skyblueeyesrevisited
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Don’t hold your breath
slowpoke
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You have a point re. Sterling but in a way he’s protected by VAR a decision can and will be made during the game.
Terry Gibson's perm
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But should he be a dive is a dive if they tell the refs not to book them for it they can look at it after and ban them.
slowpoke
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We’ll if seen by the ref it will be no penalty or free-kick and a yellow card not sure what would happen if tv spotted it and the ref didn’t.
JAM See
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He cheated.
It was good for the team that he cheated.
I'm glad he cheated.
He got caught. Suck it up.
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SlowerThanPlatt
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If you mean by the Sky pundits then absolutely nothing
blunted
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This is absolutely crucial. Every match is televised now. Lets see how it pans out ie stops players diving or back to the usual inconsistencies from the powers that be.
robbiethemole
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Godden gets 2 match ban but Fergie only gets 1 for swearing at the ref?? Absolute feckin joke
Sky Blue Pete
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Mitrovic is the one that pisses me off
SlowerThanPlatt
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It’s a yellow card offence isn’t it? Unless he persisted after being booked
Sky Blue Pete
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He did
Ian1779
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As you’ve said I think fans, managers and players would be more accepting if it was done as part of a consistent application of the rules, but as we’ve seen with refereeing just this season, the quality ranges from dire to barely capable.
olderskyblue
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What happens when the ref misses a trip on a player in the box, and doesn’t give a penalty? The defender has his arms up in the air claiming he never touched him. Should the defender get a 2 match ban? I mean, he’s clearly conned the ref.
shmmeee
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The rule is conning the ref for a pen or red card so no. Here’s one though: last season at Luton Fadz got a pen given for a handball that wasn’t. Should every Luton player who appealed get a two match ban?