2 , last season was kings first full seasonIts in year 3?
5'year plan that is in year two? Why some fans are I bought a Premier package and want it now is beyond me? We are turning into a bunch of wingie West Ham fans
Sorry yeah, got mixed up because I had a premier League package when we were at Wembley but it was because I renewed before.2 , last season was kings first full season
Reading the comments in other posts Bidwell had been responsible for virtually every goal we have conceded this season.The right side of our defence has been very poor so far this season (including MVE)....Teams are exploiting the weakness and Leeds were exploiting it straight from the start today.
Into the super fan stuff again
Most football fans aren't like that.
Most people have limited financial resources and will prioritise their spend.
No Championship club (exception of Sunderland) can pull in 28k+ fans with a team that can't be arsed
Its in year 3?
Its in year 3?
The system has worked, all over the pitch the players are just not working hard enough. Especially without the ball either when we're out of possession or in possession.Ironically today he played further forward and provided zero support.
It's happening regardless of which players are there.
Its almost as if the system doesn't work.
You can't sack 11 but you can sack one.I think at this point fans need to stop obsessing about promotion this season.
The players need to improve because whoever is in charge this is the group we have
Well it did really relative to the standardExcept in the dark days it didn't cost a small fortune to attend games..
On your last paragraph more worryingly you know the players felt the sameWhether it's Robins, Doug or the players not stepping up, we need leaders.
I said it weeks back and told those times had gone and we were progressive and playing better football.
Now I think a few more are coming round. It doesn't have to just be Fadz or Doyler type as much as id love one, but we've lost experience in the dressing room in the likes of Kelly and Godden, even O'hare was 5 years in our DNA, maybe none of them are the greatest players but you can't replace overnight what they gave us and that should've been recognised.
When Hansen said you can't win anything with kids and was ridiculed all those years back he was right. Ok we're not United, but they still had some experienced players alongside those talented kids.
If it's not addressed we'll continue like this, Robins will pay the price (and tbh if he does, it's probably deserved). No good Doug having a policy of players to make money off if they can't take you anywhere. When the times are tough leaders are even more important.
At 1 nil down today I knew we were done, I never feel like that and usually think we can come back.
IGenerally speaking if your aim is to be in the Premier League within the next 3 seasons, its not a good idea to get into a Championship relegation battle
Sorry yeah, got mixed up because I had a premier League package when we were at Wembley but it was because I renewed before.
Who is Bobby Collins?Bored by this bullshit now - Fuck off Robins you're not a 2nd tier manager, Fuck off King - You're not to be trusted and fuck off Bobby Collins - Proper footballers name but closer to fly fishing than football.
Just FUCK OFF the lot of you.
i think that’s enough ale for you today hopefully you’re embarrassed by this in the morningBored by this bullshit now - Fuck off Robins you're not a 2nd tier manager, Fuck off King - You're not to be trusted and fuck off Bobby Collins - Proper footballers name but closer to fly fishing than football.
Just FUCK OFF the lot of you.
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It is not planned but it happens. The key is not to pannick or you can set yourself back years. Apple in a barrel of water, the more you try to get it the more it bobs away from you. We are years off being Premiership ready . The five year plan is a plan and never was a nailed on cert promise!!!!
Yes they can. A city the size of ours should not struggle to get 25,000 regular match going fans.
It will be very disappointing if the 'new' fans vacate the club again just because we have a few mid table seasons.
We were shit for many years. There were plenty of reasons for fans to become disenfranchised in the 00s and 10s. They were proper reasons, not because we are looking at a mid table season in the same calendar year as reaching an FA Cup semi final.
It’s not just the players that are the issue but if you think they are putting anything close to a respectable shift in then I hope you don't run a business.
No other club pulls in that many with a team showing no effort
And we aren't mid table. We're at the bottom
Yes they can. A city the size of ours should not struggle to get 25,000 regular match going fans.
It will be very disappointing if the 'new' fans vacate the club again just because we have a few mid table seasons.
We were shit for many years. There were plenty of reasons for fans to become disenfranchised in the 00s and 10s. They were proper reasons, not because we are looking at a mid table season in the same calendar year as reaching an FA Cup semi final.
Yet they did, didn't they?What the fuck are you on about?
It's you who's talking about 2 stands closed because people can't be arsed to take a bit of adversity on the chin.
You've posted a few things tonight that make me question do you actually follow football.
For, at a minimum, 90% of teams, are shite and achieve nothing.
If people want a continuous upward trajectory then not many teams can offer that, and city certainly can't.
Just the backroom upheaval which is valid is it not,or potentially someone (s)I'm more pissed off tonight than I have been for a long time. Every slow start to a season I have made excuses for and to be fair there have been some really good ones. This year there really aren't that many excuses and we are still starting the season with the same old handicap. I just don't think that can carry on. I keep saying I'm sure Robins will turn it around but why do we always have to start from near the relegation zone it just makes any chance of playoff's or better more unlikely, we all enjoy the run in and have hope but it could be so much more.
Yep. It's amazing how football is one of the few consumer capitalist models that can serve up pure shite to its customers and people keep coming back, I will be there on Tuesday, as I was away at Fleetwood on a cold winter Tuesday evening a few moons ago.7 games into a season that follows on from 7 succesful seasons and people want to chuck it because of a few bad performances?
Well fuck them. I'd rather be backat Forest Green and they can go back to whatever the fuck they were doing before.
I bet, If I look tomorrow, they'll be a thread or posts on here moaning g about how entitled the fans of some premiership or other are.
The fucking irony.
got a sore head this morning mate?Bored by this bullshit now - Fuck off Robins you're not a 2nd tier manager, Fuck off King - You're not to be trusted and fuck off Bobby Collins - Proper footballers name but closer to fly fishing than football.
Just FUCK OFF the lot of you.
The clown you're responding to obviously fucked the club off between 2014 and 2023 judging by his absence from here, wouldn't be arsed if people of his entitled ilk fucked off again to be honest7 games into a season that follows on from 7 succesful seasons and people want to chuck it because of a few bad performances?
Well fuck them. I'd rather be backat Forest Green and they can go back to whatever the fuck they were doing before.
I bet, If I look tomorrow, they'll be a thread or posts on here moaning g about how entitled the fans of some premiership or other are.
The fucking irony.
Only just noticed "Bobby Collins", didn't know Clive was on the forums!got a sore head this morning mate?
Well aren't you a twat for that. No way are we in year three of a five year plan. Shit gaslighting by you.
We can blame Robins, King or whoever we like but there's no excuse for basic footballing ability or effort and that's on the players.
We are in year 2 with this group and we have hit rock bottom. Barring a few exceptions like MVE my faith in the group is gone.
Promotion is already looking extremely unlikely. I would look at moving as many of these on and starting again the next two windows.
Let's make a profit on Simms, Wright, MVE and hopefully convince someone to slap 8-10 million down on Sheaf. I'd also look at moving on at least one of thomas/kitching and bring in a proven CB.
There are a bunch of players stealing a living atm - let's just shift them on and bring people in that are actually going to fight for the shirt.
Clear as a bell.got a sore head this morning mate?
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