The SBT have joined forces with the Consortium... (6 Viewers)

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Everybody should make an effort however small to make them unwelcome.
If there is a small chance that Sisu see it then it's worth the effort.
Everywhere they may look on line and everywhere they go should have Sisu out in their faces.
If people get chance to get near them, particularly Fisher, then they should well aware of our feelings.
Of course a single banner won't make a difference but it's a continuos process of wearing them down.

Pretty sure they're aware of our feelings... it's not really hidden is it

 

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[dongonzalos]

Not even that, I'd be take not going back into League 1 straight away but building the club up again properly for the future. Obviously it would be amazing to both build a structure and fly back up the leagues but I'd take building slowly if it was done properly.

Do you have an issue with the skyblue trust joining with a consortium hoping to buy CCFC from SISU.
Also a question I asked you earlier which you may not have read. In what way do you think this bid is the same as Haskel's?

 

[Nick]

Di you have an issue with the skyblue trust joint with a consortium hoping to buy CCFC from SISU.
Also a question I asked you earlier which you may not have read. In what way do you think this bid is the same as Haskel's?

In what way? The fact it's the same situation with Hoffman working with other parties to try and put pressure on CCFC to be able to pick it up?

I have said over and over I will support CCFC as I do now no matter who owns us. If they have a plan and they execute it then even better Im fully on board.

 

[chiefdave]

So to sum up italia thinks Nick should put a banner up but doesn't have one himself. This following on from last weeks people who see Fisher should put pressure on him but then admitting he hadn't done it himself when he'd seen Fisher :banghead:

 

[Nick]

So to sum up italia thinks Nick should put a banner up but doesn't have one himself. This following on from last weeks people who see Fisher should put pressure on him but then admitting he hadn't done it himself when he'd seen Fisher :banghead:

Don't forget my hidden agendas...You guessed it, when somebody is purposely leaking info to him

Hat trick.

 

[dongonzalos]

In what way? The fact it's the same situation with Hoffman working with other parties to try and put pressure on CCFC to be able to pick it up?

I have said over and over I will support CCFC as I do now no matter who owns us. If they have a plan and they execute it then even better Im fully on board.

So you like the idea of the trust working with the consortium to hopefully buy CCFC. Sorry it's hard sometimes to work out whether you are please that they are trying or not?

I never asked about whether you would support CCFC or not

You think submitting ever increasing bids for CCFC and asking the owners to engage in negotiations is just trying to pick it up?

The Haskel one was an entirely different scenario he attempted to buy the club out of administration. SISU valued their own debt s lot higher than he did, so he was out bid.

 

[Moff]

Why would I do that to rugby and concert fans ? No football fans use my car park.

I feel I'm doing my bit by supporting anybody that is doing stuff to get Sisu out.
Can't believe the negativity against the Trust but I guess they are an easy target for some.

You are so full of shit, its incredible. Any little helps to get rid of SISU you cried, people should do there bit you cried, Nick do a SISU out banner you cried, have you got a banner...no fuck off its someone else's problem.

Car park not used on football match days is it?

I think in your words 'everybody should make an effort however small to make them feel unwelcome' Your effort seems to be writing drivel most days on SBT. Pat yourself on the back you must be proud.

I await the but, but, but, but....

 

[italiahorse]

So to sum up italia thinks Nick should put a banner up but doesn't have one himself. This following on from last weeks people who see Fisher should put pressure on him but then admitting he hadn't done it himself when he'd seen Fisher :banghead:

I'd put a banner up if it would be viewed by CCFC fans just to show solidarity. Like I have at matches.
What is wrong with putting a banner up or starting a sticky thread just saying Sisu out.
There seems some resistance on this board for some reason. This applies to the Trust and the failed takeover.
Every time I have seen Fisher he was surrounded by a dozen friendly people or on stage. So the opportunity has yet to present itself. The fans around him should take the opportunity.
We shouldn't back off in getting them out of here.

 

[Nick]

So you like the idea of the trust working with the consortium to hopefully buy CCFC. Sorry it's hard sometimes to work out whether you are please that they are trying or not?

I never asked about whether you would support CCFC or not

You think submitting ever increasing bids for CCFC and asking the owners to engage in negotiations is just trying to pick it up?

The Haskel one was an entirely different scenario he attempted to buy the club out of administration. SISU valued their own debt s lot higher than he did, so he was out bid.

No, I am pointing out the silly PR games and the mixed messages that are being sent out from it all.

If it all comes to fruition then I am happy to be proven wrong, I'm just not getting excited while a person who claims to not want to do business in the media is trying to do business in the media. When people who make a point of telling about business sales of 208m to get across the point of wealth are now asking for fans to help fund it.

If they want fans to help fund it, spit the plan out and how much they want and people will get their wallets out. There's no point going in the media selling the dream and trying to get the fans on board with no actual call to action.

I have said all along I want a takeover to happen, I'm just not going to get excited just yet because a PR assault in the telegraph tells me to.

 

[Moff]

I'd put a banner up if it would be viewed by CCFC fans just to show solidarity. Like I have at matches.
What is wrong with putting a banner up or starting a sticky thread just saying Sisu out.
There seems some resistance on this board for some reason. This applies to the Trust and the failed takeover.
Every time I have seen Fisher he was surrounded by a dozen friendly people or on stage. So the opportunity has yet to present itself. The fans around him should take the opportunity.
We shouldn't back off in getting them out of here.

Nothing you arse, except the person who has spouted continually on about one, YOU, hasn't done one.

 

[Nick]

I'd put a banner up if it would be viewed by CCFC fans just to show solidarity. Like I have at matches.
What is wrong with putting a banner up or starting a sticky thread just saying Sisu out.
There seems some resistance on this board for some reason. This applies to the Trust and the failed takeover.
Every time I have seen Fisher he was surrounded by a dozen friendly people or on stage. So the opportunity has yet to present itself. The fans around him should take the opportunity.
We shouldn't back off in getting them out of here.

So when you see Fisher the fans around him should be making him feel uncomfortable but you shouldn't even though he is in front of you?

The hypocrisy knows no bounds does it.

What you mean by showing solidarity is about back pats and likes, I am talking about things that will actually get results.

 

[italiahorse]

You are so full of shit, its incredible. Any little helps to get rid of SISU you cried, people should do there bit you cried, Nick do a SISU out banner you cried, have you got a banner...no fuck off its someone else's problem.

Car park not used on football match days is it?

I think in your words 'everybody should make an effort however small to make them feel unwelcome' Your effort seems to be writing drivel most days on SBT. Pat yourself on the back you must be proud.

I await the but, but, but, but....

... and your contribution is attacking fellow fans that just want Sisu out.
Take a bow.

 

[Nick]

... and your contribution is attacking fellow fans that just want Sisu out.
Take a bow.

Again, you really aren't replying to points being made. Crying that you are being "attacked" is pathetic.

 

[italiahorse]

So when you see Fisher the fans around him should be making him feel uncomfortable but you shouldn't even though he is in front of you?

The hypocrisy knows no bounds does it.

What you mean by showing solidarity is about back pats and likes, I am talking about things that will actually get results.

Like what ?
You don't think any protest works and seem to just support the team with any owners.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Like what ?
You don't think any protest works and seem to just support the team with any owners.

That's what being a fan is about. Support the players on the pitch who continue to represent the club, even in its present dire state. It doesn't mean support for the people in charge at the top.

 

[Moff]

... and your contribution is attacking fellow fans that just want Sisu out.
Take a bow.

Haha, touched a nerve. I think you will find I have only attacked you, singular not plural. I haven't attacked any other fans as they aren't writing constant shit.

How the do you know what I do? You don't know who I am or what I do, I just choose not to spout endless postings of drivel like you do telling other people what to do, whilst not doing it yourself. SBT's prize hypocrite.

You are doing nothing yourself. Take a bow.

 

[Nick]

Like what ?
You don't think any protest works and seem to just support the team with any owners.

Yes, I would support the team with any owners whether it's SISU, Wasps, Council or Hoffman etc. It would be a bit hypocritical if I said "I am just going to support the team" when SISU owned us and then if Wasps took over to say "Nah im not going because of the owners" wouldn't it?. I'd still be renewing my ST whoever of those owned CCFC or AN Other.

You are the one that keeps giving it the call to arms as well as the consortium for fans to be on board, so the question is just in reality how can they? It's all well and good Hoffman and others getting the fans excited with promises of money going into the team, fan ownership, transparency etc but what can the fans do now they have the hard on for it?

 

[Moff]

Again, you really aren't replying to points being made. Crying that you are being "attacked" is pathetic.

He's embarrassing himself more than usual today.

 

[dongonzalos]

No, I am pointing out the silly PR games and the mixed messages that are being sent out from it all.

If it all comes to fruition then I am happy to be proven wrong, I'm just not getting excited while a person who claims to not want to do business in the media is trying to do business in the media. When people who make a point of telling about business sales of 208m to get across the point of wealth are now asking for fans to help fund it.

I see that a bit differently to you, he did say at the beginning he was disappointed that the details of his offer and the rejection was leaked to the media.
Since then he has done some articles which basically say we are serious, we have had bids rejected, he is the name of one of the backers. We will give over the names of the rest and proof of funds.
I think if he was having meetings with SISU and doing negotiations you would not see these articles. Fact is SISU are not meeting to him to negotiate or name their price.
Hence the articles.
Regarding the sale of the business that, that particular investor was a director in. I don't think he himself is talking about the £208 million sale. Also all that money won't be his. He is part of a consortium. SISU rejected their last bid so what is wrong with involving fans if that allows a bigger bid?
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If they want fans to help fund it, spit the plan out and how much they want and people will get their wallets out. There's no point going in the media selling the dream and trying to get the fans on board with no actual call to action.

I have said all along I want a takeover to happen, I'm just not going to get excited just yet because a PR assault in the telegraph tells me to.

The Trust were not involved till the other day I think you may have to be a bit patient before they ask for your money. Pretty sure when they do ask for your money it will come backed by s plan and a portfolio.

In order for them to do that they need to know what they need to raise first.
The only way that will happen is if SISU sit down and negotiate.

Are you frustrated that SISU will not meet and negotiate with the group?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

How can he get fans to do that?

This just seems like Preston Haskell Part 2.

PH4 Pt 2?

 

[italiahorse]

Again, you really aren't replying to points being made. Crying that you are being "attacked" is pathetic.

Channel your efforts on getting rid of Sisu.
I don't give two hoots about your attacks it's the underlying deflections that's the problem.
What could be an influential board in combination with the Trust is just devisive and limited.

 

[Nick]

Yes, he was disappointed because he was in control of the news coming out. It was already being leaked all over Facebook and through Italia on places like this. I don't buy all of that offended that it was leaked stuff. We knew it was Hoffman because all of his mates had blabbered. It was obvious to anybody with eyes that it was leading up to the big news and the exclusive but the other side got in there first.

I'd be interested to know the reason as to why they won't meet with Hoffman and what will happen if another random person was to approach SISU with a screenshot of their bank account and say what's going on.

All SISU will be interested in is the money offered in cold cash to them. To get them to the table they will surely have to show they have the money rather than soundbytes of 208m company sales in the telegraph. The fans are being sold the dream, what is lacking is how the fans can help and what's going to happen.

 

[Nick]

Channel your efforts on getting rid of Sisu.
I don't give two hoots about your attacks it's the underlying deflections that's the problem.
What could be an influential board in combination with the Trust is just devisive and limited.

Really? Jesus christ you are really embarassing now!

"Channel your efforts" "attacks".

What's happening is that the rubbish you keep posting gets pointed out as crap left right and centre and when you are leaking info it gets questioned and you then try and deflect it.

The only deflections here are the pathetic attempts you keep trying.

It's a forum because people have different views, not everybody is a nodding puppet who repeats what they are told to for some strange reason to get the fans worked up

 

[covcity4life]

and if you say what's on your mind you get PM's from mods saying cut it out because other posters are complaining. different views are frowned upon lets be honest.

 

[Nick]

and if you say what's on your mind you get PM's from mods saying cut it out because other posters are complaining. different views are frowned upon lets be honest.

Yeah, it's a bit different following people round the forum insinuating they are racist though isn't it?

That's one for a different thread of it's own when that old chestnut gets going again, which has also been sorted.

 

[covcity4life]

sorted because people dropped all their accusations once realised how wrong they were

as for this topic i dont actually think italia is naive. i think he knew what he was doing with the pick your sides stuff.

 

[Nick]

sorted because people dropped all their accusations once realised how wrong they were

as for this topic i dont actually think italia is naive. i think he knew what he was doing with the pick your sides stuff.

So what was he doing?

 

[covcity4life]

helping consortioum and sticking it to sisu

 

[skybluebeduff]

I've channelled my energy on SISU for too long with no avail, what's the point anymore, nothing works, NOPM don't work, boycotting don't work, protests don't work, travelling to SISU offices in London don't work, drilling Fisher don't work.

 

[covcity4life]

I've channelled my energy on SISU for too long with no avail, what's the point anymore, nothing works, NOPM don't work, boycotting don't work, protests don't work, travelling to SISU offices in London don't work, drilling Fisher don't work.

if we had signed 0 players would you have got a st mate?

nout wrong with it btw, i am excited for league 2 aswell. just wondering if you got ST because sticking it to sisu doesnt work or because you see a good season coming?

 

[Nick]

helping consortioum and sticking it to sisu

How has he stuck it to anyone?

 

[covcity4life]

How has he stuck it to anyone?

you have already agreed hoffmans plan is PR. this is a part of it

just because you dont personally think it will work it doesnt mean people cant try it

 

[dongonzalos]

Yes, he was disappointed because he was in control of the news coming out. It was already being leaked all over Facebook and through Italia on places like this. I don't buy all of that offended that it was leaked stuff. We knew it was Hoffman because all of his mates had blabbered. It was obvious to anybody with eyes that it was leading up to the big news and the exclusive but the other side got in there first.

I'd be interested to know the reason as to why they won't meet with Hoffman and what will happen if another random person was to approach SISU with a screenshot of their bank account and say what's going on.

All SISU will be interested in is the money offered in cold cash to them. To get them to the table they will surely have to show they have the money rather than soundbytes of 208m company sales in the telegraph. The fans are being sold the dream, what is lacking is how the fans can help and what's going to happen.

I sent one email and I met Joy Sepalla.
I would love to know why she won't meet people putting in bids for the club.
Very strange business practice.

 

[Nick]

you have already agreed hoffmans plan is PR. this is a part of it

just because you dont personally think it will work it doesnt mean people cant try it

This was when Hoffman was saying he didn't want it public though?

How will pr help him buy ccfc? Thats my point.

Why is it when I point out things are pr people give it the conspiracy stuff and I get hammered but weeks later it's talked about like it's normal.

 

[covcity4life]

in my defence i never once disputed that it might not be a pr war. thats other posters

as for pretending he didnt want it out in open i think thats just a lie. like when you tell your mate at school not to tell your crush you like her