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[JAM See]

To answer your specific question, one answer is the workplace exposure limit, above which you must not allow anyone to be exposed (while at work). This value for formaldehyde is 2 parts per million. That said, this also takes into account dilution in room atmospheres, etc., not drawing it directly into your lungs, so i suspect the harmful level in the respiratory tract is considerably lower than 2ppm.

Further to this, the article cited by @Brighton Sky Blue includes the sentence "We show that, within the tested e-cigarette brands, thermal decomposition of flavoring compounds dominates formation of aldehydes during vaping, producing levels that exceed occupational safety standards."
If your employer would be prosecuted for exposing you to such levels, why on earth would you choose to inhale it directly into your lungs?

Apologies, just seen this (was in Cardiff last night and must have scrolled down to latest).

The discussion didn't start out about formaldehyde, it started about the health benefits of vaping Vs smoking. It's about the fact that @Brighton Sky Blue asserted that



I can post stuff about formaldehyde levels in stuff (Vapes Vs fags), but that's not really the point...

E-cigarettes emit very high formaldehyde levels only in conditions that are aversive to users: A replication study under verified realistic use conditions

In 2015, a study identified 5–15-fold higher levels of formaldehyde emissions from an old-generation e-cigarette tested at 5.0 V compared to tobacco c…

www.sciencedirect.com

The overall point I'm trying to make is that smoking is much more of a health hazard than vaping.

@Brighton Sky Blue doesn't agree, but won't provide peer reviewed evidence to the contrary.

 

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[JAM See]

Read the papers and go into the technical details. My point was I wouldn't want the contents of either in my lungs.

Being patronised on the subject by someone who doesn't know what formaldehyde is and just cites the NHS information page is funnily enough a 'thing that annoys me'.

And where would you suggest I go for matters pertaining to my health?

Please share the links, or should I dO mY oWn rEseaRcH?

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Apologies, just seen this (was in Cardiff last night and must have scrolled down to latest).

The discussion didn't start out about formaldehyde, it started about the health benefits of vaping Vs smoking. It's about the fact that @Brighton Sky Blue asserted that

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I can post stuff about formaldehyde levels in stuff (Vapes Vs fags), but that's not really the point...

E-cigarettes emit very high formaldehyde levels only in conditions that are aversive to users: A replication study under verified realistic use conditions

In 2015, a study identified 5–15-fold higher levels of formaldehyde emissions from an old-generation e-cigarette tested at 5.0 V compared to tobacco c…

www.sciencedirect.com

The overall point I'm trying to make is that smoking is much more of a health hazard than vaping.

@Brighton Sky Blue doesn't agree, but won't provide peer reviewed evidence to the contrary.

I can confirm that being in Cardiff can be worse for you than smoking.

 

[shmmeee]

I can confirm that being in Cardiff can be worse for you than smoking.

All of the lung damage, none of the cool.

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Friends/me…is this me or them?

Im coming back for the Norwich game. On this occasion I’m being joined by mates, neither of whom have been to Cov before…it works out well as it’s equidistant to where they now live.

I’ve bought them tickets, told them I might be staying 2 nights (to see my Cov mates) and showed them the premier inn earlsdon as a potential hotel to stay, it’s where I usually stay.

Anyway, one of them has gone ahead and booked a room at the Britannia…cos it’s cheaper. Fair enough but some consultation with the other bloke and me might’ve been nice first right?
Now I’ll have to either stay 2 nights in the Britannia (which I’ve heard is bad) or figure out shifting around hotels.
They don’t know where anything is in Cov either but that hasn’t stopped them!

It’s them right?

 

[SBAndy]

Friends/me…is this me or them?

Im coming back for the Norwich game. On this occasion I’m being joined by mates, neither of whom have been to Cov before…it works out well as it’s equidistant to where they now live.

I’ve bought them tickets, told them I might be staying 2 nights (to see my Cov mates) and showed them the premier inn earlsdon as a potential hotel to stay, it’s where I usually stay.

Anyway, one of them has gone ahead and booked a room at the Britannia…cos it’s cheaper. Fair enough but some consultation with the other bloke and me might’ve been nice first right?
Now I’ll have to either stay 2 nights in the Britannia (which I’ve heard is bad) or figure out shifting around hotels.
They don’t know where anything is in Cov either but that hasn’t stopped them!

It’s them right?

If he’s booked the Britannia then it’s entirely on him. Does he have free cancellation?

 

[Terry_dactyl]

If he’s booked the Britannia then it’s entirely on him. Does he have free cancellation?

I think so.
I think It pisses me off as he hasn’t given a shit and just done what he wants…and now I’ll probably have to put my foot down about it.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Just let him stay in the Britannia, he'll soon learn!

 

[JAM See]

Just let him stay in the Britannia, he'll soon learn!

Not a good advert for our fine city though.

 

[Robinshio]

if he is a student and lives in student accommodation - the Britannia will still feel like hes roughing it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Apologies, just seen this (was in Cardiff last night and must have scrolled down to latest).

The discussion didn't start out about formaldehyde, it started about the health benefits of vaping Vs smoking. It's about the fact that @Brighton Sky Blue asserted that

View attachment 31913

I can post stuff about formaldehyde levels in stuff (Vapes Vs fags), but that's not really the point...

E-cigarettes emit very high formaldehyde levels only in conditions that are aversive to users: A replication study under verified realistic use conditions

In 2015, a study identified 5–15-fold higher levels of formaldehyde emissions from an old-generation e-cigarette tested at 5.0 V compared to tobacco c…

www.sciencedirect.com

The overall point I'm trying to make is that smoking is much more of a health hazard than vaping.

@Brighton Sky Blue doesn't agree, but won't provide peer reviewed evidence to the contrary.

What irritates me with these posts is being spoken to like some conspiracy theorist crank when you have actually been given some peer reviewed evidence to justify why I said what I did. Particularly when I was defending vaccines more vigorously than most on here during the pandemic.

For someone like me who has never smoked or vaped I’ll take a big hit to my health if I started either.

 

[robbiekeane]

What irritates me with these posts is being spoken to like some conspiracy theorist crank when you have actually been given some peer reviewed evidence to justify why I said what I did. Particularly when I was defending vaccines more vigorously than most on here during the pandemic.

For someone like me who has never smoked or vaped I’ll take a big hit to my health if I started either.

Just leave it mate - you've hurt his ego because he vapes and it's still very bad for your health so he's clinging onto some semantics in a sentence rather than accept he's still damaging his health

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Can we just agree that vaping is bad, but not as bad as smoking and leave it there!?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The way message boards mean conversations that die a death re-start tube and again

Irl someone doesn't come into a pub and start shouting a view about something you were talking about the previous week...

Or do they...?

 

[LastGarrison]

Friends/me…is this me or them?

Im coming back for the Norwich game. On this occasion I’m being joined by mates, neither of whom have been to Cov before…it works out well as it’s equidistant to where they now live.

I’ve bought them tickets, told them I might be staying 2 nights (to see my Cov mates) and showed them the premier inn earlsdon as a potential hotel to stay, it’s where I usually stay.

Anyway, one of them has gone ahead and booked a room at the Britannia…cos it’s cheaper. Fair enough but some consultation with the other bloke and me might’ve been nice first right?
Now I’ll have to either stay 2 nights in the Britannia (which I’ve heard is bad) or figure out shifting around hotels.
They don’t know where anything is in Cov either but that hasn’t stopped them!

It’s them right?

Am I missing something?

It’s hardly miles away from each other and assuming you all have phones with messaging services and Google Maps?

I’d delight in my mate staying there so I could rip the piss out of him the whole weekend as he finds slices of ham in between his bed sheets (still the best review I’ve read of the place ).

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Am I missing something?

It’s hardly miles away from each other and assuming you all have phones with messaging services and Google Maps?

I’d delight in my mate staying there so I could rip the piss out of him the whole weekend as he finds slices of ham in between his bed sheets (still the best review I’ve read of the place ).

Well, it’s just a bit of a pisser travelling back and forth to the game, to respective hotels, and back again.

You’re probably right. It’s me!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well, it’s just a bit of a pisser travelling back and forth to the game, to respective hotels, and back again.

You’re probably right. It’s me!

Given the state that the squad will be in by that point and that we usually get twatted by Norwich at the best of times, I'd save the petrol!

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Given the state that the squad will be in by that point and that we usually get twatted by Norwich at the best of times, I'd save the petrol!

I mean, I could but as I’ll have the tickets that would definitely be stitching them up.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I mean, I could but as I’ll have the tickets that would definitely be stitching them up.

Letting them go to the game already is stitching them up.

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Letting them go to the game already is stitching them up.

I encouraged it!

 

[Grendel]

If he’s booked the Britannia then it’s entirely on him. Does he have free cancellation?

The happy hour bar is ok - so I’ve heard from a friend.

 

[Grendel]

Can we just agree that vaping is bad, but not as bad as smoking and leave it there!?

Ive deciding smoking isn’t too bad and started again after 3 decades of abstinence

 

[Terry_dactyl]

Ive deciding smoking isn’t too bad and started again after 3 decades of abstinence

After reading this thread?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Am I missing something?

It’s hardly miles away from each other and assuming you all have phones with messaging services and Google Maps?

I’d delight in my mate staying there so I could rip the piss out of him the whole weekend as he finds slices of ham in between his bed sheets (still the best review I’ve read of the place ).

Tbf if you're out on the piss all day it will probably feel a lot better than it is when you stumble back in the early hours

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[Sick Boy]

Ive deciding smoking isn’t too bad and started again after 3 decades of abstinence

I’ve stopped and started several times but have managed to stay stopped since Feb 2017, those first couple of weeks back are the best.

 

[Grendel]

After reading this thread?

yes I am bored with substance repression

 

[ccfc922]

Thick cunts who ask who couldn't afford the rent at the Ricoh.

Punch up near stonehenge...

 

[fernandopartridge]

Lazy bastards on a decent salary seemingly unable to do any more than a simple Find and Replace when trying to update some procurement documents.

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[SkyBlueSoul]

HelloFresh delivered to my old house yesterday but I was in the office and went straight to the game afterwards so haven't had the chance to retrieve it yet. Heading round after work, just hoping they haven't thrown it away or decided to tuck in. Even if they've not touched it, the meat will be fucked by now probably.

 

[Nick]

Keep seeing videos on social media from people who work at Wilkos now it's closing. There are very strange.

 

[SkyBlueSoul]

HelloFresh delivered to my old house yesterday but I was in the office and went straight to the game afterwards so haven't had the chance to retrieve it yet. Heading round after work, just hoping they haven't thrown it away or decided to tuck in. Even if they've not touched it, the meat will be fucked by now probably.

Turns out there was another heart-warming option I hadn't considered. It was left on the doorstep and my old neighbours saw it was my name on the box, so they took it into their house assuming I'd be round to collect it. Not only that but they opened it and put the necessary bits in the fridge. Faith in humanity restored.

 

[Ian1779]

Grasses…..

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Grasses…..

Did the stewardess feel left out, i wonder?
And how come Sky News is still using 1980s parlance for cabin crew?

 

[wingy]

Turns out there was another heart-warming option I hadn't considered. It was left on the doorstep and my old neighbours saw it was my name on the box, so they took it into their house assuming I'd be round to collect it. Not only that but they opened it and put the necessary bits in the fridge. Faith in humanity restored.

Just what I was assuming they should do.

 

[robbiekeane]

Lazy bastards on a decent salary seemingly unable to do any more than a simple Find and Replace when trying to update some procurement documents.

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