Might be an idea to have this thread made a sticky for all future Thorn related bitching-and to keep the rest of the forum free of it as a result.
Plus Nimely & Norwood. Their contribution so far has been pretty effective.
No chance though is there? Someone will start a thread on the human rights atrocities in China and "someone" will say this is nothing to the abuse SISU are subjecting Andy Thorn to. I get irritated and off we go again.
As much as i agree he has done well recently, the only issue I have (but i would rather debate this once the season is over)... but why has Thorn not given the players the same belief all season long?
The flipside is why the players haven't given their all until the end really is near?
Just what I was thinking AFC as I was reading this thread.
If they could not up the way we have been playing recently then god help us, people can say thorn this that or the other (my view on him is my view and I will stick to that) and no sudden upturn in form will change that, they should be performing better now, after all that's what they are paid for getting results.
There careers are at stake so they should be putting more fight into the game.
I also think things have changed since juke went, is this because we are not so 1 dimentional anymore?
I'm not having it that the management weren't doing their homework on opposition earlier In the season. Harrison is very experienced, even being an England coach - there's no way.
Yet again one quote (which i'm yet to see) has been blown out of all proportion.
I don't think there was ever a point where they didn't believe in themselves this season. That's what's impressed me most about the job Thorn's done.
He's carried them through all those last minute defeats and silly schoolboy errors and told them to keep plugging away; and most importantly for us they've never lost faith in him.
Precisely.:claping hands:
Nah, Just you
I assume we just ignore away games this season do we?
Looks like we'll have to put that last ditch equaliser at Cardiff down to being a fluke then rather than a reward for their efforts. :facepalm:
Do you seriously believe that they're not trying or was that one just for fun?
Do you remember "The Entertainers"?
How many away games did they win?
It's a conclusion that has to be drawn from looking at the way they approach specific games both before and after the new year. It was the Blackpool game which Otis is referring to and that I suspect has led to a more all encompassing approach. Why be surprised anyway - managers operate differently some make dossiers on opposing teams and others don't.
The approach has clearly changed which is backed up by the formation changes we also now have seen in games.
It's actually not a negative about the manager - if you could but see it.
No I never believe players generally do not try. What made me smile was your cliche the boys are with him. I can only assume on our travels he is absent considering we have the worst away record in Britain and only 1 win under his tenure. Were they with him at Peterborough, milwall, forest, Barnsley? Had they fell out then?
I'm not having it that the management weren't doing their homework on opposition earlier In the season. Harrison is very experienced, even being an England coach - there's no way.
Yet again one quote (which i'm yet to see) has been blown out of all proportion.
No I never believe players generally do not try. What made me smile was your cliche the boys are with him. I can only assume on our travels he is absent considering we have the worst away record in Britain and only 1 win under his tenure. Were they with him at Peterborough, milwall, forest, Barnsley? Had they fell out then?
My point is that in all that time they were still putting in a shift. The results in those matches doesn't change that.
On a separate issue, I thought it was quite telling that we played far better in the 2nd half at Cardiff under the original diamond formation.
i can't be arsed to quote it all again.
I remember this, was bad that was. We had to change shape after 25 mins or so in that game because of it. Thorn said it caught them off guard and bbc blackpool said before the game it was one of their favourite passes.i can't be arsed to quote it all again.
In a nutshell, after the game against Blackpool Thorn said Blackpool changed one or two things for the game that City were not expecting, one of those being the long diagonal ball over the top of our fullbacks. He said it whether you say 'no way' or not! If you recall they caught us out about 6 times with it. Once they scored we changed our formation to counter it.
Blackpool had been deploying that same tactic every single game for months. When Eakin asked the The BBC Blackpool commentator on CWR what the City should expect on the night before the game he said that this is one tactic of playing the ball over the top of the fullbacks they use every single game without fail and they had been having success with it.
Think last time I posted it on here someone came back with the defence of 'Thorn being a bit busy' and not having time to analyse opposition tactics.
Thorn said it. Interviewed by Geoff Foster after the game and said that, that tactic had caught City on the hop.
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