the way i see it otis thought we were crap(which we were) and that thorn was making mistakes(which he was) then was happy to see our form changing but still thought we would go down(which could still happen) but over last 2 months has started to believe we can stay up(would you prefer him to be stubborn???)and has praised the team and manager lately for their improvement(balanced).
what more do you want? your still doing the na na na na we love thorn before you did nonsense,especially considering when we were doing badly you would not accept any of it was his fault.
otis has been mr optimisitc last few months,always starting threads about where we can get points from etc
I remember it well. Some were saying it was all AT's fault. Why not look at players available sometimes when comments being made that subs not used.
The problem we have is some only look at AT's faults over the season. Some only look at the problems he has had all the season. If you look at the middle ground you still get placed into the "AT is doing well" or "AT mankes poor decisions" camps.
I wonder if any City fans had a bet on us going down this year?
I know some bet on us losing games. I just can't find it in my heart though to bet against the City.
Didn't you predict us the other day to stay up.Not at all.
Completely wrong. As is La Lucha.
I have said since Christmas we are going down. I said we would be in a relegation struggle before the season started and said since Christmas we are going down. How have I changed my mind can I ask?
Didn't you predict us the other day to stay up.
A for me I said at the start of the season we would be in a scrap and survive by the skin of our teeth. At Christmas time I thought we were dead and buried and nailed on for relegation tbh but then I became more optimistic after the Leeds game I would say. I think it is going to be tight, avoid defeat at Bristol and we will do it I think.
the way i see it otis thought we were crap(which we were) and that thorn was making mistakes(which he was) then was happy to see our form changing but still thought we would go down(which could still happen) but over last 2 months has started to believe we can stay up(would you prefer him to be stubborn???)and has praised the team and manager lately for their improvement(balanced).
what more do you want? your still doing the na na na na we love thorn before you did nonsense,especially considering when we were doing badly you would not accept any of it was his fault.
Mate of mine has had £200 on us to go down at 5/2 at the start of the season.
No, I didn't unfortunately. Did say if we had beaten Watford away i would start to believe. I do still think we need an away win. Get that away win and I will change my mind about our chances. Just think there is too much pressure on us to win our home games now and they will all be nervy games like the Pompey one, but in saying that we are now in a good position to make a real fist of staying up. We can do it of course .... will we? Very tough call.
Though we deserved to win that Pompey game, the one free kick of theirs that came off the inside of the post could have made all the difference. Little things can change games. I hope they keep going in our favour, but I am not convinced they will. If we can draw all our away games now then i think that would be enough with a couple of home wins, but 1 single away win will make all the differnce to everyone's mindsets.
Not at all.
Rich, the reasonable amongst us accpet the constraints we are under and are fully aware of the situation with squad, players and money. I have never called for Thorn'a' head. I have always been calling for him to receive help rather than be sacked.
As I said before, the Blackpool thing is only in response to those who say Thorn has been doing a good job all season.
I do think the so-called 'Thorn Out Brigade' totally accept the sqaud thing.
yep we were 5/2 to go down in july... 1/7 on in december and now 18/19 fourth favourites to go down.. even the bookies believe in us
My problem with the Thorn out brigade is the refusal to acknowledge that the squad has been ripped apart and that this gave us a squad destined for relegation.
Yes the Manager will have off days (as Ferguson or Mourinho will) - but overall he has kept us in with a shout of staying up.
This Blackpool thing seems to now have been magnified to an entire half-season; which is utter bollocks.
we lost 3 guys,1 of them dont matter(gunnar)1 was replaced somewhat(westwood) and the other was a big loss(king)
one big loss does not leave a team destined for relegation,dont be such a defeated
we lost 3 guys,1 of them dont matter(gunnar)1 was replaced somewhat(westwood) and the other was a big loss(king)
one big loss does not leave a team destined for relegation,dont be such a defeated
That explains it......before we lost all of our players we did before the start of the season.
The notion we were odds on to go down at the start of the season is a fallacy. We were with one.
So it wasn't a fallacy then?! :facepalm:
We had already lost the players by then. The notion we were odds on to go down at the start of the season is a fallacy. We were with one. With most the 2 hot favourites were Peterborough and barnsley. We were level with watford crystal palace and Doncaster.
So bookies general consensus was a season of struggle but survival a real possibility. On a managerial front best hand the medals to posh and the tykes.
You show me where anyone says AT has done well all season and has not made mistakes and I will not get wound up by you sounding like a stuck record going on about game against Blackpool. That was not his only mistake so if you want to keep on preaching about his mistakes there are others you could use.
Did Cardiffs manager make a mistake at half time or after?How about Pompeys manager? We are undefeated in the last 5 games. This months games were all hard. A lot of people thoight we would struggle to get a few points. How many opponents managers have made mistakes?
The answer must either be none, or you are not interested as the mistakes were not made by AT.
We are all on the same side here, although some days you would never guess so
I remember it differently, all my mates were asking me why we were bookies favourites to go down before the season started. They like taking the piss, it started early this season!
Google it then and see what you get. Average odds are 5/2. The other two are 15/8.
Our odds were below evens at the start of the season. Once King was gone the bookies as well as us knew we were in trouble. If you don't believe me then look back at the threads at the start of the season. I was offering evens or just above to anyone that thought it was a sure bet. You could not get that price anywhere else. Not one took it on.
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