Nick
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I didn't know they had blocked you, it looks like you didn't either as you were replying directly to them.
How was I going to get a reaction from them when they've apparently blocked me?
They posted what they did of the back of me liking someone else's post. Am I liking posts to get that reaction now. Am I not allowed to like posts now because being falsely accused of being a racist of the back of doing that is an acceptable reaction in your eyes? That's basically what you're saying isn't it?Are you actually for real? You're justifying someone saying very ill though out, false and damn right nasty accusations here of the back of liking someone's post. I think you need to go away and have a think about what you've just said. It's very worrying what you're willing to accept as allowable behaviour. Accusing someone as being a racist is awful. Allowing them and then justifying it is no better.
Sad isn't it, hardly anyone that wants to talk about the football these days. 8 people offered ratings from the game but we have busier threads on how shit 2 of our players are and this one with 350 replies.Fucking hell, 10 pages of dross on Fisher, as normal ending in some arguments between City fans.
He must be pissing himself.
It's not bickering. It's knowingly accusing someone of being a racist when you know full well they aren't and that is bullying. It goes way beyond bickering and if you can't see the difference I don't know what to say. You're really not coming of too good in this.
Watched the video again today and the only person in it to come out with any credit is TF himself. I'm not a fan of his but he did show a lot of self control and a bit of dignity there; would have been easy to go into slanging match mode, as indeed several others there did. Otherwise it's cringeworthy to watch, but in fairness a lot of ale had been consumed by all concerned.
I have tried the "nice and reasonable" approach when talking to him at train stations and didn't get any further than those in the video so I am not sure your theory about another approach working is right, he just played the smart aleck....although I do seem to remember him hinting to me that SP was going to get sacked (this was after the away defeat at Gillingham, a couple of weeks before SP did indeed get fired).That's the thing, it doesn't make him look bad. Somebody debating and catching him out and picking things out he says does.
That was the point I was trying to make about it.
There you go Nick. Admitting that he's trying to pass things of that he knows to be untrue about me as true.
Bullying or not? It's attacking the man not the point isn't it? Same as the guy shouting in Fishers face on the train station. No better is he.
Can you keep that to the politics threads? It's not related to this. It's bad enough having those in off topic.Tony to my knowledge you have never proved the account wasn't yours so we have to assume based on your posting history it's validity or not
We know you have voted uk and fiercely defended UKIP against charges of racism.
We also know you once repeatedly taunted a poster by calling him "monkey boy" and at one point said I would feed him bananas. You also seemed to suggest we were in a homosexual relationship at the time I believe.
So that's not bullying or racism.
Ok
Can you keep that to the politics threads? It's not related to this. It's bad enough having those in off topic.
I didn't know they had blocked you, it looks like you didn't either as you were replying directly to them.
I wasn't replying to them when they made the accusation. They posted the accusation of the back of me liking someone else's post. It's all there if you read through. I explain it all perfectly and correctly in my reply to the accusation. It's up to you Nick, you can either set the bar low so that accusing people of being racist when they know full well you aren't is acceptable or you don't. He's still playing the silly game now. I noticed you've had a half hearted attempt at telling them to stop by keeping it to the politics thread but knowingly falsely accusing someone of being something you know them not to be shouldn't really have a place on any thread should it? Or next time we have a disagreement or you post something I deem you've done just for reaction or you like someone's post I disagree with maybe I should just accuse you of being a racist if that's acceptable.
To be fair, my argument with Esoterica is only about Branston pickle - and we'll work through it eventually !
Anyone know how a thread about the train station kerfuffle ended up with allegations of Nazi sympathies flying about?Apologies Harry, I would rather have read you and Esoterica have a ten page debate on the good old pickle than the usual spats on here.
No, I am on about you replying to his posts directly multiple times throughout the thread. So trying to use the "he has blocked me so I couldnt have been trying to get a reaction" line as if you knew also doesn't work.
That bickering goes on and on for weeks in off topic, hence I've said keep it in there. It's boring. You are clearly still just using this as some sort of stick to try and aim at me which doesn't really work.
It's like me trying to wind SBK up and then saying he bullies me when he explodes with randomness on a thread. You clearly try to provoke, you whinge when something gets said. It's simple, don't quote him multiple times to get reactions etc and just report things if they offend you.
Accuse me of being racist if you want. I'm really not that arsed.
You are clearly just also playing silly games yourself going on about bullying etc because I said it was OTT behaving like they did which multiple others have also said.
Anyone know how a thread about the train station kerfuffle ended up with allegations of Nazi sympathies flying about?
That's the point. I wouldn't accuse you of being a racist because I have no grounds to. Neither does Grendull with me despite his silly games. Just so I know what do I have to be accused of before you find it inappropriate? I thought labelling someone a racist was pretty low but apparently not. Just how low do the unfounded accusations have to go before it becomes inappropriate?
Presumably if someone had have accused Tim Fisher of being a racist without any foundation to the accusation you'd be meh, so what?
You're as the owner and administrator of this site are setting a very slippery slope here. The fact that you can't see that is staggering.
I'm really not bothered to be honest. I find it funny when he brings it up pretending it's true when he knows full well it isn't.
So we are all agreed then.....
Fisher or anyone should not be attacked, verbally abused or threatened.
He should be questioned at every opportunity about his decision making and someone always record it so the answers can be posted for all to see and compared to previous answers.
He should be asked what is his reward for his work and what are his exact targets to get this reward and what is his plan to achieve it.
He is the worst chairman we have ever had
and Tony isn't a racist as in this country you are innocent till proven guilty not the other way round.
So it is for Grendel to prove that account was set up by Tony, it's not for Tony to have to prove it wasn't him.
Otherwise stop calling him a racist
My favourites are the courgette chutney and the spicy tomato chutney that we make from our garden produce. Also, the missus makes a really great pickle called Adjika that comes from the former USSR eastern republics. :emoji_cucumber::emoji_eggplant::emoji_hot_pepper::emoji_yum::emoji_yum:Haven't a clue, perhaps we can join Harry and Esoterica in discussing our favourite pickle instead, it would be a lot more fun!
No, I am on about you replying to his posts directly multiple times throughout the thread. So trying to use the "he has blocked me so I couldnt have been trying to get a reaction" line as if you knew also doesn't work.
That bickering goes on and on for weeks in off topic, hence I've said keep it in there. It's boring. You are clearly still just using this as some sort of stick to try and aim at me which doesn't really work.
It's like me trying to wind SBK up and then saying he bullies me when he explodes with randomness on a thread. You clearly try to provoke, you whinge when something gets said. It's simple, don't quote him multiple times to get reactions etc and just report things if they offend you.
Accuse me of being racist if you want. I'm really not that arsed.
You are clearly just also playing silly games yourself going on about bullying etc because I said it was OTT behaving like they did which multiple others have also said.
The point is, I wouldn't turn on the "Im being bullied" act to suit when I was there prodding at somebody. You said yourself you found it funny because it wasn't true, the same reaction I would give and why I wouldn't be arsed.
You said:
I sent you a PM earlier asking what was up, you didn't reply. Why are you suddenly so outraged about it and aiming it all at me?
If you tried to wind Grendel up on here and he outnumbered you at a game and shouted in your face then yes, it would be OTT and stupid also.
It's because I can see you are pretending to be outraged because I disagreed with you. You are trying to pretend you are bullied to prove a point because I said it was OTT with Fisher (I didnt mention bullying) and you don't agree.
Yet you are the one moaning about trying to take the man not the ball, meanwhile you are trying to 2 foot me at waist height over and over again.
I've had Tony on ignore for months
He should be allowed to catch a train though shouldn't he?
Maybe he didn't have his car.
Did he encourage any abuse? Did he wind fans up?
I know fans don't like him, but surely he had the right to catch a train the same as anyone else hasn't he.
Funny how those now shouting the loudest about bullying were quick to jump on Steve s back.I'm not too sure it's exactly the same as a gang of people cornering somebody on their own and shouting in their face in that manner. That is wrong whether it happens to you, me, S Gilbert, Fisher, Ann Lucas etc etc or any other names people want to use as examples.
It's a bit different to pointing out things they say or taking the piss a little bit isn't it? Especially as you like to give just as much yourself and then get a bit back
Funny how those now shouting the loudest about bullying were quick to jump on Steve s back.
And before you say it he is not an anonymous poster he is known to all there's year comments were not a piss take but personal attacks.
So all these hypocrites are now crying becauce someone raised a voice to nice Mr Fisher.
Funny how those now shouting the loudest about bullying were quick to jump on Steve s back.
And before you say it he is not an anonymous poster he is known to all there's year comments were not a piss take but personal attacks.
So all these hypocrites are now crying becauce someone raised a voice to nice Mr Fisher.
I'm not pretending to be anything. I'm not bothered by him making accusations he knows not to be true. Like I said it says more about him than it does me.
What I find unbelievable (still not outraged) is that you condone this behaviour to the point where you're making out it's my own fault. By that same standard you must condone someone shouting wanker in Fishers face. Which was the double standard being thrown at you by a different poster when I jumped in with this example. And you've proved them 100% correct when they said you allow people to receive verbal abuse on this forum and join in.
Accusing someone of being a racist is verbal abuse. Just because I'm not bothered doesn't stop it being abuse. Anyone can call me a twat until the cows come home, at times I can be I accept that so I acknowledge I probably deserve it. To accuse someone of being a racist goes well beyond that. Just because I'm not bothered does that mean you should accept it? You clearly do but does that mean you should? It's a slippery slope.
Funny how those now shouting the loudest about bullying were quick to jump on Steve s back.
And before you say it he is not an anonymous poster he is known to all there's year comments were not a piss take but personal attacks.
So all these hypocrites are now crying becauce someone raised a voice to nice Mr Fisher.
Anyone know how a thread about the train station kerfuffle ended up with allegations of Nazi sympathies flying about?
It really isn't a slippery slope, as you are clearly trying to use it as a stick because I said it was OTT what happened with Fisher. You trying to act like you are bullied also says more about you and switching on the outrage days later.
You going on about playing the ball not the man but then constantly trying to take my legs away also says more.
It isn't double standards, if Grendel was on a train platform with others shouting in your face it would be exactly the same and out of order. I've put that into multiple posts.
Somebody posting on here Fisher is a wanker is different to a group of people getting aggressive in his face at a train station. The poster you are on about going on about abuse is somebody else who gives it out and then gets a bit back. Hence I said if it was Wingy / BBR / OSB it would be different as they don't give it out.... I give it out, I don't cry bullying when I get it back. That's the difference.
You are scraping the barrel because I disagreed with you about something.
I think the point being made is... SBT76 has been accused of being racist..Which we all clearly know he's not, yet you allow posters to accuse him without any proof whatsoever and get away without even a warning.
Yes, the same as I don't cry bullying or act the victim when me and you have been giving each other shit back and forth and I get PM's telling me I'm mentally disabled and I have learning difficulties. However if you had randomly sent them to OSB or somebody who clearly doesn't get involved with it for no reason you would.
Tony has also said he finds it funny and isn't bothered by it and it makes Grendel look bad.
Do you still not see where I'm coming from?
Not getting into any rows.. Just saying, SBT76 isn't a racist, and his accuser gets away with the accusation. Nothing to do with having a row on the forum.. Racism accusations are going way beyong the pail.
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