I always tip, unless it's bad service, but you're right, of course.How about these workers get paid properly and employers stop expecting customers to subsidise their wages?
Hospitality workers should be paid properly and, as I understand it, are better paid than those in the US. However , customers would still be paying their wages through higher prices/ which is fair enough.How about these workers get paid properly and employers stop expecting customers to subsidise their wages?
I have no problem paying a bit more in a pub/restaurant if it means the people working there are properly paid. In the US it’s often used as a way to just not pay minimum wage.Hospitality workers should be paid properly and, as I understand it, are better paid than those in the US. However , customers would still be paying their wages through higher prices/ which is fair enough.
I never tip if I go somewhere with a huge car park which is half empty, as are the tables, and they try to excuse slow service by saying they are busy. It infuriates me.
I'd say it's generous, even more so if it was the total rather than pre-tax, which you're supposed to use to calculate the tip.A few years ago me and my wife had lunch in Orlando , it cost $45 I left 60 thinking I was being generous. The waitress was a bit moody after
I got prompted to enter a tip after buying a drink at a bar in London - wtf.I tip for good service. People expecting a tip for doing their job can fuck off and talk to their manager about a pay rise.
I got prompted to enter a tip after buying a drink at a bar in London - wtf.
There was a self-service checkout that signed up to Twitter?I saw a self service checkout asking on Twitter. I choose to believe it’s real.
The charity begging at the checkout can fuck off too.
There was a self-service checkout that signed up to Twitter?
I've always tipped $1 a beer and never had issues. Even in NYC, I've seen locals/regulars tip $1 a drink. I try to pay in cash where possible, though; they seem to get you if you're paying by card.When tipping extends to the self-checkout machine, who receives them?
As more businesses turn to point-of-sale kiosks for tipping, there's no proof the money goes to workers.www.cbsnews.com
This is an article about tipping self service machines, not something I have personally come across but certainly has been plenty of stories about it.
The minimum wage thing is a bit of a red herring, I worked a tipped position briefly and the money was not in the wage but the tips. For example in your average Restaurant you will probably find that the best paid employee is the top Server. Going to earn a lot more than the Chef.
It used to be of course that many tips were cash, you were supposed to declare how much cash you had received for payroll/tax purposes, well declare something so it was not too obvious. Some people still leave cash but that is less and less common.
It used to be you tipped $1 a beer, now 20% is probably the norm. 15 to 20% in a Restaurant, I do not do Starbucks etc, trying to think when else, for me that is probably it. It is interesting to see the suggested tip options, usually it is 15 to 25% range but I have seen some start and finish higher but I think they give you the option of a custom tip, might be difficult to find it. When I see stupid levels I go down one level on what I would otherwise have done.
There have been stories about places who have gone to a non tipping mode, never seems to work for whatever reason and my favourite:
Handsome Her, a vegan café in Melbourne Australia, sparked global debate in 2017 when it announced it would offer women priority seating and charge men an 18 per cent premium to “reflect the gender pay gap”. After two years of trading, the café announced it would be closing its doors for good on April 28.
It's really common in bars these days in my experience, the bar staff look embarrassed handing the machine over. If it was a cash payment such a request just would not happen.I got prompted to enter a tip after buying a drink at a bar in London - wtf.
There was also a busker in the beer garden (who I think had been hired by the pub) who came around asking for tips. I used the old "I don't have any change, mate", and he whipped out a card machine.It's really common in bars these days in my experience, the bar staff look embarrassed handing the machine over. If it was a cash payment such a request just would not happen.
It's an ambience thing, like it or not these are currently chargeable in this new capitalist/taxing era! what to do? join in or don't no in betweens, hybrid Socialist/Capitalist thinking's?There was also a busker in the beer garden (who I think had been hired by the pub) who came around asking for tips. I used the old "I don't have any change, mate", and he whipped out a card machine.
I was with a client who tipped them a fiver, so I matched it - they weren't even good, which made it even worse.It's an ambience thing, like it or not these are currently chargeable in this new capitalist/taxing era! what to do? join in or don't no in betweens, hybrid Socialist/Capitalist thinking's?
Surprised at that, although my experience is a few years old now.My daughter works at the miller and carter on Kenpas highway some of the tips the staff get are very good
I tipped a barman something like $5 once because for a beer at the bar because I was in a good mood and he ended up giving me a free beer and a shot. I’ve heard that sort of thing is pretty common.
I have no problem paying a bit more in a pub/restaurant if it means the people working there are properly paid. In the US it’s often used as a way to just not pay minimum wage.
If these workers were unionised they’d be able to collectively negotiate better wages from their employers. Which is what a good number in the US have done.
A bit harsh, Houch.I don't leave tips full stop. If they don't get paid enough, work somewhere else!
People should be paid enough to get by by the employer. It's not like the tips are set in stone like PRP in other positions. You can do your job absolutely brilliantly and get absolutely nothing. Any tips etc. should just be a bonus on top of a living wage for them doing their job well.Yes. This. I live in USA. Most long term service workers aren't exactly from beneficial financial, social status in the first place, and how this system even developed in the first place is mind boggling. With respect to our well liked poster Houchens Head who commented "if
they don't get paid enough, work somewhere else!" It simply isn't realistic for many of these service workers who come from poor backgrounds, little or no education, uncertain immigration status, criminal records (excessive drug related prison terms is common still), or other disadvantages where they cannot get better paying jobs.
Such workers are somehow allowed to be paid as low as about $3ish (£2.30ish) per hour, with the collective assumption that (somehow?) such service workers will make enough money to get by augmented by tips? Tips are something largely out of the control of the worker. With the amount of people who stiff, dine n' dash, break stuff (some places insist the employee is somehow financially responsible for such deficits, something I doubt is legal), or even have tips withheld (stolen) by management, the only moral choice I really have is to tip more than I want to so regular people aren't getting fucked too badly.
All people deserve the human dignity of financial security through honest day's work. This thread really boils me because
A) tipping shouldn't even be a thing, but
B) I have to subsidize someone's livelihood for a decent living just because politicians and business owners want as cheap and disadvantaged a labor force as possible.
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