I really can't understand a forum when you can't debate issues without people crying and and insinuating that fans enjoy it when we fail. The OP made a good conversation point. Otherwise we have one thread called "I love Coventry City".
Or we could look at where we were when he took over and congratulate him for moving the team forward so much in such as short space of time and look forward to making the same leaps forward over the next season.
The club was a basket case when he took over. Some people have short memories.
Winning is all that matters.
Ask an arsenal fan if they'd like to have won 5 titles in the last decade the Graham way or be permanent bridesmaids playing the Wenger way.
Poor defending, inconsistency and weak midfield strength isn't good football.
No one will thank Mowbray if we miss out by playing good football. Good football is winning football.
Is that true? Even when LVG has got 'good' results for united this season, fans still get on his back for a boring style of play?
Plus what I think is massively important and especially at this level, attacking football with lots of goals, is going to make people turn up at games. So increasing revenue. Some people may not be bothered if they think all they will see is 1-0 and 0-0 results?
also does a good type of attacking football not help to bring in players of better class? Especially on the offensive side? Would Armstrong have scored as many at burton as he has here? If we had played like burton, would Newcastle be keen for him to have stayed on when he's not being given a great chance to develop?
Just my opinion and tbh every manager has there own philosophies, but tbh I'm just gonna enjoy the ride this season.
He has plenty of credit left in the bank but for someone who likes developing players the change in strategy of signing 30 something players who are in decline and wasting a loan on a player who has zero worth to the team are clearly concerns.
If he doesn't achieve a top 6 finish given the position we were in 10 games ago you would seriously then question if we retain him next season.
Mourinhio is a very negative manager but when he gets results no one complains.
If we won every game this season 1-0 with a last minute penalty would you have issues? Doubt many would.
Like Pressley did at sixfields you mean?
I have always said and will always maintain that SP did a difficult job under very difficult circumstances and although I believe that the time was right for him to go I will always be grateful for what he achieved at the club.
But to compare SP's time as manager to TM's time so far show's exactly how little understanding you have of not only what was happening at the club while SP was manager but also what TM and MV have had to do since both signing on in the summer.
Don't think they enjoy it but it always seems out of proportion.I really can't understand a forum when you can't debate issues without people crying and and insinuating that fans enjoy it when we fail. The OP made a good conversation point. Otherwise we have one thread called "I love Coventry City".
But INTERNET POINTS
One other thing worth pointing out. Our drop in form started happening not long after the appointment of Chris Anderson. What's the chances that SW was happy to keep his nose out of footballing matters but CA isn't and that's upsetting the team from the top down?
The reason I say that is because when CA was first appointed like most I googled him and stumbled across a video interview where he was talking about the best minute during a game to make a substation statistically speaking if you're not winning. Don't remember what the exact minute but do remember us making a sub at that minute the next time we were in that position.
I can't help but wonder if the ship is being rocked from within and we have another RR on board.
"Believe it when I see it" - A response to us getting two new players in.
"Normal service resumed" - After we lost two in a row.
"Typical city"
"Always happens to us"
"Never perform when there's a big gate" (Lost at home once all season)
Some fuckers absolutely love it. It's the reason why I've not been on here much lately, which I'm sure some of you are pleased about.
When did Anderson join and when did Cole join out of vBulletin interest?
Man Utd are under performing, they haven't had good results at all, they are having a shocking season and will struggle to make the champions league. If they were sitting 5 points clear on top of the league you wouldn't hear any grumblings about LVGIs that true? Even when LVG has got 'good' results for united this season, fans still get on his back for a boring style of play?
Plus what I think is massively important and especially at this level, attacking football with lots of goals, is going to make people turn up at games. So increasing revenue. Some people may not be bothered if they think all they will see is 1-0 and 0-0 results?
also does a good type of attacking football not help to bring in players of better class? Especially on the offensive side? Would Armstrong have scored as many at burton as he has here? If we had played like burton, would Newcastle be keen for him to have stayed on when he's not being given a great chance to develop?
Just my opinion and tbh every manager has there own philosophies, but tbh I'm just gonna enjoy the ride this season.
Like tony I've wondered around these points.When did Anderson join and when did Cole join out of vBulletin interest?
I take your point but unless JC is leading a players revolt his only crimes seem to be not being able to play 90mins, puffing if he runs the length of the pitch a few times and missing quite a lot of games because he can't play two games in a week because he's the wrong side of 30 and is taking longer to get match fit than an 18year old.
Couple that with the fact that we look no better when he goes off or when he doesn't actually play at all I don't buy that one player has upset the balance. One board member interfering on the other hand? And we have a history of board members doing the latter. Sitting on the bench, text a sub etc.
Maybe SW understanding that letting TM and MV so their jobs without interfering is the best way forward was his undoing? Letting board members interfere has certainly been the SISU way in the past. Who's to say it isn't happening again?
Just to clarify, I'm not criticising the team or TM, despite our recent form. I merely thought it was a strange comment and wanted to share that...
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I really can't understand a forum when you can't debate issues without people crying and and insinuating that fans enjoy it when we fail. The OP made a good conversation point. Otherwise we have one thread called "I love Coventry City".
I take your point but unless JC is leading a players revolt his only crimes seem to be not being able to play 90mins, puffing if he runs the length of the pitch a few times and missing quite a lot of games because he can't play two games in a week because he's the wrong side of 30 and is taking longer to get match fit than an 18year old.
Couple that with the fact that we look no better when he goes off or when he doesn't actually play at all I don't buy that one player has upset the balance. One board member interfering on the other hand? And we have a history of board members doing the latter. Sitting on the bench, text a sub etc.
Maybe SW understanding that letting TM and MV so their jobs without interfering is the best way forward was his undoing? Letting board members interfere has certainly been the SISU way in the past. Who's to say it isn't happening again?
Astute says he is totally confident Mowbray has 100% control of all finances and player comings and goings. Are you indicating this is not the case?
Do you have any evidence?
Man Utd are under performing, they haven't had good results at all, they are having a shocking season and will struggle to make the champions league. If they were sitting 5 points clear on top of the league you wouldn't hear any grumblings about LVG
Edging 3 one goal margin victories and drawing 2 which was off the back of 3 straight league defeats isn't considered good form or a good run of results for a club like Man United though. To suggest Man Uniteds run of results this season has at any point been good or even acceptable this season is wrong.Not strictly true, before Southampton, they had won 3 drawn 2 of their last 5, and people will still complaining, not because of results but because of performances, and the fact that they weren't scoring or even attacking.
The problem with united isn't poor form, or bad results, it's a defensive style of play, which yes while yielding bad results, isn't 'the united way' which is why fans are so angry.
Who gives a flying ruck about man Utd .Edging 3 one goal margin victories and drawing 2 which was off the back of 3 straight league defeats isn't considered good form or a good run of results for a club like Man United though. To suggest Man Uniteds run of results this season has at any point been good or even acceptable this season is wrong.
They've been knocked out of the champions league at the group stage, have no hope of winning the league and are facing an uphill battle to qualify for the champions league. They've only won 43% of league matches this season which for a club like Man United is appalling, believe me when I say 80% of Man United's problems are because of the results. There would be no issue if LVG's style was delivering the necessary results but its not the results are significantly below the expectation levels of the club.
Can't believe you think Man United's results this season are acceptable for club there size.
Who gives a flying ruck about man Utd .
When we were at Sixfields under Pressley, many of those who went commented that it was the most attractive attacking free-flowing football they had seen from a City team in all the time they had supported them. Fleck, Thomas, Moussa, Baker, Wilson and Clarke. We ripped teams to shreds for the first few months, and overturned that 10 point deduction to get into the play-off positions in no time at all. It was great, despite the very challenging circumstances not related to the football itself.
Then came that awful Sunday afternoon in Bradford, Wilson and Clarke got long-term injuries, other teams sussed us out, we stopped winning, we lost the attractive style, and the calls for Pressley's head came thick and fast because he couldn't restore it, and didn't have a "Plan B". I don't recall the exact stats, but our post-Christmas form was amongst the worst in the league. Even when Wilson came back, it never really got back to how it had been.
There ARE parallels here, so the criticism of Mowbray will not be far away, and he and the players need to turn it around.
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