itsabuzzard
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Yes. Torp will need counselling. Just sharpening the prongs on my pitchfork.
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SkyblueTexan
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Chelsea should have had a penalty in their semi (clear hand ball by Grealish) but wasn’t given. Such inconsistency over the 2 games.
Have seen it go either way and glad we got the pen. That should have no bearing on Torp’s goal which I am more confident was a legitimate goal. Don’t give me the toenail offside bullshit. Depending on the split second when you judge the ball to have been released, it could have been onside or offside. Too close to call and so the benefit of the doubt should be given to the attacker. Anyway Man C would have humiliated us in the final. Now I hope they humiliate Man U.
Getting to the Prem is more important than the FA Cup final for me. Hope we manage to keep our assets this summer and build on it for next season which I think will be pivotal.
Have seen it go either way and glad we got the pen. That should have no bearing on Torp’s goal which I am more confident was a legitimate goal. Don’t give me the toenail offside bullshit. Depending on the split second when you judge the ball to have been released, it could have been onside or offside. Too close to call and so the benefit of the doubt should be given to the attacker. Anyway Man C would have humiliated us in the final. Now I hope they humiliate Man U.
Getting to the Prem is more important than the FA Cup final for me. Hope we manage to keep our assets this summer and build on it for next season which I think will be pivotal.
Calista
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Maybe I can help. I am sure that Haji was marginally (and very briefly) offside. The screenshots below are taken from the YouTube video from the reverse angle - .
On a PC (not a mobile) you can use shmmeee’s nice tip to pause the video at 17:38, then press full stop to advance frame by frame, or comma to go back one frame at a time.
Sadly Haji was offside ONLY for the tiny fractions of a second that they actually analyse, and only because he momentarily stuck his left leg out. I now feel happier knowing the decision was technically correct, even though I still think the excessively precise VAR procedures need to give forwards a bit more leeway.
But if you’d rather believe forever that we were robbed by a cockup or a conspiracy, feel free to present alternative facts. I am after all an agent of the deep state
On a PC (not a mobile) you can use shmmeee’s nice tip to pause the video at 17:38, then press full stop to advance frame by frame, or comma to go back one frame at a time.
Sadly Haji was offside ONLY for the tiny fractions of a second that they actually analyse, and only because he momentarily stuck his left leg out. I now feel happier knowing the decision was technically correct, even though I still think the excessively precise VAR procedures need to give forwards a bit more leeway.
But if you’d rather believe forever that we were robbed by a cockup or a conspiracy, feel free to present alternative facts. I am after all an agent of the deep state
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Robinshio
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Maybe I can help. I am sure that Haji was marginally (and very briefly) offside. The screenshots below are taken from the YouTube video from the reverse angle - .
On a PC (not a mobile) you can use shmmeee’s nice tip to pause the video at 17:38, then press full stop to advance frame by frame, or comma to go back one frame at a time.
Sadly Haji was offside ONLY for the tiny fractions of a second that they actually analyse, and only because he momentarily stuck his left leg out. I now feel happier knowing the decision was technically correct, even though I still think the excessively precise VAR procedures need to give forwards a bit more leeway.
But if you’d rather believe forever that we were robbed by a cockup or a conspiracy, feel free to present alternative facts. I am after all an agent of the deep state
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is it more than 5cm off, as that is the margin of error they use
standupforcity
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Also why wasn't Onana sent off for his two yellow cards!!!!
Calista
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I couldn't say for sure, but in all honesty it does look more than that. Maybe 4 or 6 inches rather than 2 inches in old money. The margin of error should be more.
I think the simplest explanation is that the VAR guys (with access to far more precise tech than me) got it right according to their remit.
It's massively unlucky because Haji literally just pushes a foot out for a moment, gaining no material advantage at all, and in the blink of an eye he's back onside again.
rob9872
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Now voted, although if I was being pedantic it still requires a question mark
Alkhen
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Technically no. But VAR is ruining the game, no need to forensically search through for marginal infractions. The current system isn't clear enough, there are far too many moving parts for it to be truly accurate.I don't think it helps public opinion that they don't explain their working out.
Just make it clear light between the last man and attacker. Yes there will be marginal calls but at least there will be a degree of advantage to the attacker at that point and it will be easier to take if a goal gets ruled out.
Just make it clear light between the last man and attacker. Yes there will be marginal calls but at least there will be a degree of advantage to the attacker at that point and it will be easier to take if a goal gets ruled out.
The watchmaker
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Yellow cards are reset at the end of injury time if you didn't know. If you did know and just think it is a stupid rule... well that's a fair point. Also I would question why the second yellow didn't come sooner.
The watchmaker
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Also fwiw - no, I think cheated is the wrong word, but I also thinking calling something offside by such a tiny margin through VAR when considering the circumstances, body positions etc etc isn't in the spirit of the game.
The watchmaker
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Watch the decisive penalties as Man Utd edge Coventry
Watch as Rasmus Hojlund scores the winning penalty for Manchester United against Coventry to secure a spot in the FA Cup final at Wembley.
www.bbc.co.uk
itsabuzzard
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The not explaining their working out is what gives the room for the conspiracy theory, and understand ably so. Rugby is way ahead of the round ball game in some ways, and this is one of them.
messiahrobins
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Just seen Man Utd v Burnley on MOTD. Casemiro was given onside at the end (they didnt score) whn he was much further off than Wright was claimed to be (Wright was clearly onside).
We were cheated, but the whole world agrees pretty much and our standing has gone up exponentially as a result so there is the silver lining as we should now be able to attract a new level of players due to that increase in profile
messiahrobins
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Absolutely spot on
standupforcity
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Yes I did know that.. and yes I'm suggesting it's another stupid loose end which needs to be addressed!
The watchmaker
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Ah... my apologies!
The thing that gets me with this is that it surely isn't something which accidentally happened. It must be something people sat down at some stage, discussed and thought 'That makes sense!!'
Also irrelevant to me in this case because when onana was booked for time wasting he immediately walked off the pitch and went for a drink. 2nd yellow right there. He then really pushed it at every opportunity afterwards. Thought the ref had a decent game but onana was very lucky not to see red for me.
rob9872
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Well if you multiply 21 x 4 and add 3 you get 87. So thats 4 -3. If that's not conclusive then I don't know what is!
Happy_Martian
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How long are you all going to hold on to this anger ?
Does it really matter now ?
Nothing to gain from relitigating this.
Otherwise, you'll all just turn into Sky Blue Sunderland fans.
Does it really matter now ?
Nothing to gain from relitigating this.
Otherwise, you'll all just turn into Sky Blue Sunderland fans.
