Although that sort of shit is also in the Bible, which was a one of the sources Mohamed plagiarised to invent his religion as well as earlier myths and existing Arab beliefs, laws & customs.
Yes indeed it is in the Bible, most notably when the Israelites are told to take Midianite virgin girls as sex slaves. But can you name any Christian theologians today who continue to support such a practice? That's the difference.
Many countries ban homosexuality on the basis of a religious doctrine that is not Muslim
The comment was relating to extremism. There are I think around 2.6 million Muslims in the uk. Extremists identified are at 25,000 according to reports. So even if you factor out the very young and the very elderly then it’s never going to exceed 5% that practice extreme behaviour.
The point was that the vast majority exist without any interference into the uk way of life.
First off you tried to disprove it by saying "he didn't use the word racist" when I never said he did.
He did however fill out a complaint saying it had a racial aspect as well as bullying. He has also tried his best to shout about all the "threats" he got inside from muslims.
"Does you complaint have a racial aspect?"
"Is your complaint about bulling?"
I am not too sure where have I misled anything?
Shall we take some of your quotes like the one about it being full of Islamic Extremists as misleading?
Maybe you will see some of the stuff people like Tony has posted to see that he has half a clue about that Prison, when I am agreeing with him on something you can probably guess it must be concrete...
I'd put money on him knowing a fair bit more about the prison in question then pretty much anybody on here!In fairness Tony made it pretty clear he hadn't done basic research about certain prisons though, as he seemingly couldn't tell the difference between a Cat C and a Cat A.
I'd put money on him knowing a fair bit more about the prison in question then pretty much anybody on here!
I would, else I wouldn't say itMaybe so, but sadly on that one occasion you wouldn't be going home with any winnings
In fairness Tony made it pretty clear he hadn't done basic research about certain prisons though, as he seemingly couldn't tell the difference between a Cat C and a Cat A.
The cat A in question has a remand wing which is mixed category. Sadly I’m related to someone who’s used that facility for the wrong reasons and like Tommy when he was enjoying the food there (probably not his fault, again) he too wasn’t a Cat A. He like Tommy was on the remand wing and remand wing only while awaiting a placement at an appropriate prison. He only ever mixed with prisoners of the same category and was then moved elsewhere. Tommy ended up in Peterborough on that occasion from what I’ve read (link already supplied) and just like this time took part in the same bullshit pantomime as that time. Only last time his following wasn’t quite as big (although equally gullible) as this time so less noise was made of it.
Like I’ve already said on the thread without going into details I know people personally who work at Onley and have personally fact checked everything that Tommy has spouted in the press things like only having a mattress, being by a mosque that doesn’t exist ect. and the only thing that checks out is his claim about moving from Hull to Onley at a moments notice but crucially that is the norm not the exception. His treatment has been inline with any other prisoner. That’s prison, if he doesn’t like it don’t repeatedly break the law. It’s that simple.
Sadly I know whatever I reply to you will be jumped on by the people that detest Tommy Robinson the most, but in order to make effective points and get people to listen to you need to be able to speak the truth and occasionly you need to offer some balance.
You were wrong about this, and whilst Tommy Robinson is fucked up in many ways, digging a ditch like you have done now doesn't help anyone.
Robinson is a scumbag, but he is a secondary problem. The primary problem needs to be openly talked about and to defend that at any cost only opens the door for people like him. You can tell yourself you aren't a facilitator for that, but if people like you weren't, ultimately we wouldn't be having this discussion, Tommy Robinson would be a nobody, and this thread never would have even existed in the first place.
What are you on about? He did speak the truth about tr making things up about his time in prison.
Your post is very weird. Almost straight up denial.
I think this debate is over your head to be honest, and you've fallen into the trap of thinking I'm a TR apologist because I happen to argue it from both sides.
I get bashing people who support TR because some of their comments are idiotic and he has obviously made some things up that happened in prison, but blindly throwing your weight behind someone else who time and time again has proved to be extremely biased on one side doesn't really look good especially when they make the gaff they did, and then you still fight their corner.
You come on here acting as if you don't take anything too seriously but you end up making a fool of yourself I'm afraid.
How is it over my head to discuss the nonsense he has made up about his time in prison?
Read through all of my posts on this sort of thing, read through my other posts where I ever agree with Tony (you would have to search hard because I doubt there are any) and you will also see I am not just saying things because of politics etc. I have also said Tony will know more about that prison that most other people on here, I stand by that because it matches up exactly with what I know and have pointed out in reply to people like singers_pore who will clearly believe any old shite that TR or his pals put out.
I'm not talking about what Tony has said about politics, I'm not talking about what Tony has said about football politics, I'm talking about what Tony has said he knows about the prison in question and TR's time there. It's quite specific.
What gaff has actually been made? I am not sure if you have followed the thread and understood it properly, doing your best Dongo impression again.
I follow the thread completely, but as we normally find on these political type threads you have two pretty extreme sides. There is almost never any balance in the middle because people are so set on their own views they cannot reasonably discuss anything. The mistake Tony made was to say TR had not been in a Cat A prison - that isn't true. He might have been in a special wing there, but he was in that prison and had been in the mix with a lot of seriously dangerous prisoners.
I know TR is a bullshitter and has made up or exaggerated a lot of his stories, so I am actually on Tony's side for some of that. At the same time to just deny absolutely everything and bat every single thing back just makes you lose credibility. He might know a lot about prisons, but his determination to show TR as wrong on absolutely every single detail just makes the whole thing look silly and pointless. We have seen the same on the Brexit thread just going round and round in circles. It isn't a debate, it is just arguing.
Like I said, I think this is a bit over your head and not in a nasty way. There are some good people on this forum, but these threads can be hard work. I honestly wouldn't bother getting involved. I'm going to take my own advice now and stick to the football for today as it could be quite exciting...
Maybe you will see some of the stuff people like Tony has posted to see that he has half a clue about that Prison
I'd put money on him knowing a fair bit more about the prison in question then pretty much anybody on here!
I'm not too sure why you try to patronise when it's pretty obvious I know what I am talking about. I'm not on about brexit, I'm not on about religion, I'm not on about politics. I am being pretty specific with what points I am making aren't I? The fact you fail to see that shows you haven't really grasped that or clicked on.
Do you want to read what I said?
I said:
I know for a fact Tony knows a fair bit more about Onley than most would on here due to people he knows that work there.
Try to patronise, go off about brexit or some other shite all you want. It doesn't work. Why are you telling people who clearly know a fair bit more than you about the subject not to get involved?
You really couldn't make that stuff up. Very strange and getting more and more like Dongo every time you post with how deluded you seem. You may as well just try and pick me up for saying TR was a little bitch or should have bulked up like singers_pore keeps desperately trying to.
I'm going to leave this as this has clearly hit a nerve here. You've actually lost it.
1. MI5 have produced two sets of numbers: 1) they are actively monitoring a list of 10,000 people who they believe are likely to commit a terror act, 2) there is a list of 25,000 people who they think might be capable of committing a terror act.
2. The two lists only contain the names of people MI5 know about. There have been terror acts committed in the UK where the terrorists did not belong to either list. Therefore, the lists produced by MI5 are incomplete
Sadly I know whatever I reply to you will be jumped on by the people that detest Tommy Robinson the most, but in order to make effective points and get people to listen to you need to be able to speak the truth and occasionly you need to offer some balance.
You were wrong about this, and whilst Tommy Robinson is fucked up in many ways, digging a ditch like you have done now doesn't help anyone.
Robinson is a scumbag, but he is a secondary problem. The primary problem needs to be openly talked about and to defend that at any cost only opens the door for people like him. You can tell yourself you aren't a facilitator for that, but if people like you weren't, ultimately we wouldn't be having this discussion, Tommy Robinson would be a nobody, and this thread never would have even existed in the first place.
Thirty-one charged in child sex inquiry
Well, it didn't take Tommy Robinson to point out this disgusting bunch did it !! Where's the Jones, Pearson, Scott, Cook surnames........................Oh no !!
Clint Van Cook ??
Thirty-one charged in child sex inquiry
Well, it didn't take Tommy Robinson to point out this disgusting bunch did it !! Where's the Jones, Pearson, Scott, Cook surnames........................Oh no !!
If they get strung up Tony, there won't be much point deporting them !It didn’t take Tommy to point any of the other cases out either. No doubt that when this trial has started and a media blackout has been called so the case doesn’t get prejudiced Tommy Robinson will pop up claiming a cover up and he’s the only person exposing it. I just hope that the posters on here who have swallowed this line in the past remember that Ahdown has supplied a link showing that these stories contrary to what Robinson is claiming is receiving coverage in the media.
On another note I hope any guilty parties involved get strung up for this heinous crime. And if they’re foreign nationals they get deported when their sentence has been served.
Hasn't anyone told the BBC they aren't supposed to post things like this as there's a big conspiracy to cover it all up?Thirty-one charged in child sex inquiry
Well, it didn't take Tommy Robinson to point out this disgusting bunch did it !! Where's the Jones, Pearson, Scott, Cook surnames........................Oh no !!
It's clearly evident that despite their professed theological differences, when it comes to the rape of children, the catholic and islamic faiths are absolutely singing from the same hymn sheet, (pun alert) they have managed to turn it into some kind of sport.Here is a real proper cover up.
Child abuse including rape by hundreds of priests in Pennsylvania was covered up
It's hard to argue with that rather blunt but correct assessment.It's clearly evident that despite their professed theological differences, when it comes to the rape of children, the catholic and islamic faiths are absolutely singing from the same hymn sheet, (pun alert) they have managed to turn it into some kind of sport.
Lovely lad, watching Wes on Love Island helped me through my prison sentence. They was in Love Island for as long as I was away.
Any one who watched love island should have their telly taken off them!
Tommy Robinson poses with Love Island's Wes at KSI vs Logan Paul fight
He must have just had one of those technical mattresses in his room that shows TV shows? Or he could have been full of shit.
It's clearly evident that despite their professed theological differences, when it comes to the rape of children, the catholic and islamic faiths are absolutely singing from the same hymn sheet, (pun alert) they have managed to turn it into some kind of sport.
Let's not forget the Church of England as well -
Collusion, cover-up and child abuse in the Church of England | Andrew Brown
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