Transfer Shouts (3 Viewers)

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

And if we were to need to replace for example Hamer, wouldn't you want that replacement bedded in, couple of friendlies etc to mould in with our style of play etc considering they would be replacing a vital cog in the team?

We all know Robins would not want to be scraping around at the end of the window 6 games in for a replacement

You make it sound like Robins, or any manager for that matter, has such a luxury?

Every manager would of course prefer to bring in a replacement following a sale of a key player as soon as possible but most of the time that's just not possible.

The inference from the ITKs suggest a sale is probably needed this summer. So the notion any sale will have to be postponed because Robins hasn't had a chance to field the outgoing player's replacement in a few pre-season friendlies is nonsense.

 

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[1ccfc]

I cant see any of the big 3 going now. Windows too far along to the start of the season, i think MR would say lets keep them until Jan now

Am i in the minority?

Unfortunately I think it's the old cliché 'money talks'. Even if it's the final day of the window and an acceptable bid comes in, then that player is gone. We would simply look to replace in the loan window which runs longer (I think?), or see who is still free.

 

[Saddlebrains]

You make it sound like Robins, or any manager for that matter, has such a luxury?

Every manager would of course prefer to bring in a replacement following a sale of a key player as soon as possible but most of the time that's just not possible.

The inference from the ITKs suggest a sale is probably needed this summer. So the notion any sale will have to be postponed because Robins hasn't had a chance to field the outgoing player's replacement in a few pre-season friendlies is nonsense.

fair point. How about any potential replacement? Do you think target 1 2 or 3 to replace Gus has not already moved elsewhere for example and we end up with target 33?

 

[mark82]

Unfortunately I think it's the old cliché 'money talks'. Even if it's the final day of the window and an acceptable bid comes in, then that player is gone. We would simply look to replace in the loan window which runs longer (I think?), or see who is still free.

Not any more. Used to run longer.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

fair point. How about any potential replacement? Do you think target 1 2 or 3 to replace Gus has not already moved elsewhere for example and we end up with target 33?

I'd imagine there are a list of names the club will have prepared in the event any of O'Hare, Hamer or Gyokeres is sold.

Whether they're successful in bringing in their primary target/s is a complete intangible as it's based on a variety of factors, such as whether the fee is right, whether the target's club wants to sell, if the target/s even wants to come here, whether the target's club is able to bring in a replacement in time etc.

 

[Hobo]

Because he's at the stage of his career he wouldn't be happy being backup, and it's unlikely a loanee would be happy being backup.

Nobody's happy being reserve, but different profiles of track record and experience would expect different things.

I dont think any player assummes they will play every game. Most know there is likely to be rotation and injuries.

Professional players actually thrive on the competition.

 

[robbiekeane]

Let’s hope so and don’t disappear like the other two MR thought we had

Miserable sod aren’t you. You gonna be alright if we sign some actual decent players? Shall we brainstorm some stuff for you to whinge about just in case?

 

[robbiekeane]

“the ITK’s”

Cringing my actual tits off here

 

[Liquid Gold]

If Hamer is sold sisu would be fucking stupid not to give MR £2m to try and pull off another Hamer even if they bank all the rest of it.

 

[SleepyGinger]

I don’t think Hamer would leave a massive hole if he goes. We’d still have Sheaf Allen Kelly Eccles Palmer in there. I wouldn’t be against bringing a loan in there and investing the money in other areas in the future.

 

[Saddlebrains]

I don’t think Hamer would leave a massive hole if he goes. We’d still have Sheaf Allen Kelly Eccles Palmer in there. I wouldn’t be against bringing a loan in there and investing the money in other areas in the future.

He deffo would. In my view hes the most expendable of the 3 but going into a season with Sheaf, Kelly Allen and Eccles as the midfielders is severely lackingg in proven championship class (bar Sheaf)

 

[Liquid Gold]

I don’t think Hamer would leave a massive hole if he goes. We’d still have Sheaf Allen Kelly Eccles Palmer in there. I wouldn’t be against bringing a loan in there and investing the money in other areas in the future.

Palmer is playing/competing with O'Hare.

We'd have:
Allen - OK rotation
Sheaf - Quality
Kelly - Ageing and probably above his level
Eccles - Injury prone and unproven

That isn't great options for a midfield 2 and that ignores the need for us to buy develop and sell on for profit to progress.

 

[Samo]

He deffo would. In my view hes the most expendable of the 3 but going into a season with Sheaf, Kelly Allen and Eccles as the midfielders is severely lackingg in proven championship class (bar Sheaf)

I think its funny how people are so casual about losing the classiest footballer we've had in nearly a decade!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

It's the type of player Hamer is too, he can drive us forward and take hold of a game like none of the others.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Palmer is playing/competing with O'Hare.

We'd have:
Allen - OK rotation
Sheaf - Quality
Kelly - Ageing and probably above his level
Eccles - Injury prone and unproven

That isn't great options for a midfield 2 and that ignores the need for us to buy develop and sell on for profit to progress.

Not only that but, as with Eccles he's likely to miss at least a third of the season through injury.

 

[Nick]

Have seen about a 5pm announcement, no idea how likely but it will be a loan defender.

 

[SleepyGinger]

someone’s using SBB info for ITK points on twitter

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

someone’s using SBB info for ITK points on twitter

@Saddlebrains you’ve been rumbled

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

someone’s using SBB info for ITK points on twitter

I was just going to ask who this little monkey is

 

[Northeast sky blue]

If Hamer was to go, I hope that someone else is brought in. The midfield looks very weak without him

 

[Samo]

If Hamer was to go, I hope that someone else is brought in. The midfield looks very weak without him

And it's light anyway...
Even with him he have just 6 senior midfielders. An injury and a suspension and you have no options to play with or scope for rotation.

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Palmer is playing/competing with O'Hare.

We'd have:
Allen - OK rotation
Sheaf - Quality
Kelly - Ageing and probably above his level
Eccles - Injury prone and unproven

That isn't great options for a midfield 2 and that ignores the need for us to buy develop and sell on for profit to progress.

Or you could look at it as:
Allen - did well never let us down last season.
Sheaf - quality,shut up a few cynic’s last season
Kelly- didnt look out of place end of season.
Eccles- promising young player did very well till getting injured.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

He deffo would. In my view hes the most expendable of the 3 but going into a season with Sheaf, Kelly Allen and Eccles as the midfielders is severely lackingg in proven championship class (bar Sheaf)

Sheaf has got better since the end of the season according to some on here.

He has a lot of potential and it is a big season for him, but I think we need to be a bit more measured. He might look good compared to names such as Kelly and Eccles, but he's still improving and the midfield needs a dusting regardless. If we were to lose Hamer then in my opinion it would be unforgivable not to strengthen it before the season starts. We'll get steamrolled there otherwise.

 

[SleepyGinger]

Sheaf has got better since the end of the season according to some on here.

He has a lot of potential and it is a big season for him, but I think we need to be a bit more measured. He might look good compared to names such as Kelly and Eccles, but he's still improving and the midfield needs a dusting regardless. If we were to lose Hamer then in my opinion it would be unforgivable not to strengthen it before the season starts. We'll get steamrolled there otherwise.

Sheaf will go for more money than Hamer when he goes

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Sheaf will go for more money than Hamer when he goes

Tenner charity bet?

 

[SleepyGinger]

Tenner charity bet?

Yeah go on then, probably both be undisclosed mind

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Yeah go on then, probably both be undisclosed mind

Fair play to you.

 

[Saddlebrains]

@Saddlebrains you’ve been rumbled

Haha, better than the 'Michael Hector is a done deal' tweets

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Or you could look at it as:
Allen - did well never let us down last season.
Sheaf - quality,shut up a few cynic’s last season
Kelly- didnt look out of place end of season.
Eccles- promising young player did very well till getting injured.

This kind of mentality really does concern me.

It's like fans a few weeks ago suggesting that it wouldn't be the end of the world if Hamer wasn't replaced because Howley would receive more game time. It's baffling.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

I don’t think Hamer would leave a massive hole if he goes. We’d still have Sheaf Allen Kelly Eccles Palmer in there. I wouldn’t be against bringing a loan in there and investing the money in other areas in the future.

He is our best player so of course he would. I just don't understand this view that he's the easiest to replace. He is well above the rest of the team.

 

[mark82]

Have seen about a 5pm announcement, no idea how likely but it will be a loan defender.

Fairly likely I'd imagine. Robins said last week one was done.

 

[junglej13]

I know some people are dubious of this as a source... Think this was the lad who was training with Walker prior to preseason -

 

[Winny the Bish]

I know some people are dubious of this as a source... Thinl this was the lad who was training with Walker prior to preseason -

Author of the story is Pete O'Rourke rather than Wayne Veysey, so that gives it more reliability.

 

[rexo87]

I know some people are dubious of this as a source... Thinl this was the lad who was training with Walker prior to preseason -

Would think this would be a Hamer replacement if he was to go?

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